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To: Ronbo1948

Thank You for being honest.

As a former.

BTW I am not a fan of AA or anyother group sob story.


16 posted on 08/30/2010 3:52:12 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: Global2010

As a former.

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18 posted on 08/30/2010 3:58:25 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Global2010
BTW I am not a fan of AA or anyother group sob story.

I am shocked to find myself here defending AA people. Perhaps I don't have enough experience as I have only attended Al Anon meetings to encourage a friend to take advantage of this resource, but I happily participated and found value for myself despite the misfit of Alcohol not being a central issue for my own troubles and my connection to Alcoholism coming only through this friend's very troubled family.

But, ultimately AA is not about poor me.. its about finding a backbone and for Al Anon people its often about learning to say no. To say, "suffer until you are tired of it." pretty darn conservative message if you ask me.

AA is good stuff. Bing on it if you like but these folks who say reason your way out of dependency are fools and have been proven as such many times over.

The message at the Rally is similar as charged to the AA message, that you have to change yourself to change what is going on around you and that when you need courage God is a great source. Beck on this point is on the money.

Faith is really the only source that can assure that we will find the way to clean up this mess. A generation or more of feral children is coming of age and they are bereft of values and morals and faith and yet this is the very thing they need most. When folks have their own moral compass you don't have to spend so much time worrying about how much trouble they are getting into, but rather get out of their way as they make good lives for themselves and those around them.

Faith in God and a good sense of values are the most important tools that you could equip a society with to overcome what we are facing.

113 posted on 08/30/2010 8:10:44 AM PDT by dalight
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