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Why Pelosi Signed Two Certificates of Nomination
Sept 8, 2010
| Butterdezillion
Posted on 09/08/2010 7:21:00 PM PDT by butterdezillion
Nancy Pelosi signed one certificate of nomination which was sent to 49 states and another - saying that Obama is Constitutionally eligible - to Hawaii. People have asked why she didn't send the eligibility-certifying one to all the states, but the more pressing question is, "Why did the Hawaii Democratic Party refuse to certify Obama's eligibility?"
This is on my blog but I'll post the whole thing in the first response and the link to the blog post in the 2nd response so the links will be (hopefully) clickable.
TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; democraticparty; eligibility; fraud; hawaii; naturalborncitizen; obama; pelosi; usurper
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To: butterdezillion
The plot thickens...the stew gels....
To: butterdezillion
Simple. Obama is not eligible.
To: butterdezillion
Why Pelosi and Germond Signed a Different Certificate of Nomination for Hawaii
Canada Free Press broke a story showing that Nancy Pelosi and Alice Travers Germond , as representatives of the Democratic National Committee, had signed one Certificate of Nomination for Obama and Biden that was sent to 49 states, and another that was sent only to Hawaii. Only the certificate sent to Hawaii included a statement that Obama and Biden were Constitutionally qualified to serve as President and Vice-President.
That certificate of nomination for Hawaii is the ONLY statement in this nation signed by somebody besides Obama which claims that Obama is Constitutionally eligible to be President. Contrary to arguments that Congress certified Obamas eligibility when they certified the results of the electoral vote, neither representatives of Congress nor any Secretary of State has signed a legal document saying that Obama is eligible. This one oath by Pelosi and Germond is the only legal claim that Obamas eligibility was verified.
And there is a huge story about how this particular certificate came to be, which the House Ethics Committee, every state Attorney General, and the public at large need to know.
First off, they need to know that the Hawaii Department of Health has confirmed that neither Pelosi nor Germond, nor any leader of either the Democratic National Committee or the Hawaii Democratic Party, has ever even asked to see Obamas birth certificate. So Pelosi and Germond did not sign this document because they saw a certified copy from the HDOH office. And in fact, if they had seen anything from the HDOH office they would have known his Hawaii birth certificate has been amended and has no legal value.
Its been removed from the web, but shortly after CFP published their original article about the Certificates of Nomination, somebody claiming to represent the DNC stated on a discussion board that the DNC relies on the state parties to verify Constitutional eligibility for candidates, so the oath by Pelosi and Germond would just confirm that the state democratic parties had confirmed the Constitutional eligibility of the candidates.
But this is where the argument totally falls apart, because the Hawaii Democratic Party actually ignored their protocols in 2008 in order to specifically NOT certify Obamas eligibility as they had done for candidates in the past. IOW, if Pelosi based her decision to certify on whether the state party would confirm eligibility, then she had a duty to NOT certify Obamas eligibility, because the democratic party of the state supposedly holding Obamas birth certificate REFUSED TO CERTIFY Obamas eligibility.
I requested and received from the Hawaii Dept of Elections the certificates of nomination from both the DNC and Hawaii Democratic Party (HDP). I was told their records only go as far back as 2000. In 2000 and 2004 the HDP waited until about a month after the National Convention and then signed and hand-delivered to the Hawaii Elections Office their certification that the candidates 1) were chosen by both the state and national parties and 2) were Constitutionally eligible to be President and VP. That was the HDPs standard procedure, fulfilling both of Hawaiis 2 requirements for placement on the ballot. (I will upload those documents as soon as I can get my husband to scan them.)
In 2008 the HDP signed their certification with the Constitutional eligibility language removed at the National Convention, on the day BEFORE Pelosi and Germond signed the DNC certificate. They then apparently gave their HDP certificate to DNC Attorney Joseph Sandler, who then had a special certificate created and signed by Pelosi and Germond just for Hawaii (since the HDP refused to certify eligibility) and then sent both certifications, with his own letter of transmittal, to the Hawaii Elections Office.
So instead of acting independently a month after the National Convention and confirming Constitutional eligibility as in the past, the HDP acted before the Convention to take out the eligibility language from their standard certificate, signed it, and gave it to Joe Sandler before Pelosi had signed anything - signaling to the DNC that they were not going to certify eligibility. They coordinated their efforts with Joe Sandler, who sent both documents together to the HI Elections Office. Apparently Sandler, Pelosi, and Germond all knew that Hawaiis special certification was necessary because the HDP refused to certify Obamas eligibility.
The question that begs an answer is: Why did the Hawaii Democratic Party refuse to certify Obamas eligibility as they had always done to successfully place presidential candidates on the ballots before?
A former DNC official allegedly said the DNC added the eligibility language to be cautious, but that doesnt explain why the HDP took OUT their certification which had always been sufficient in the past. Being cautious would mean either doing it the way it had always worked before, or ADDING to what had always worked before not trying out an experiment that had never been tried before. Sandler had been counsel for the DNC in 1996, 2000 and 2004, and the Hawaii election law hasnt changed since 1993 so there was no reason to believe the protocols always used werent sufficient. And if the DNC had questions they didnt ask anybody about them; Deputy AG Aaron Schulaner didn’t remember anybody from the HDP or DNC asking about the requirement and said it doesnt matter which of the 2 bodies certified eligibility.
I called the HDP headquarters on Nov 13, 2009, to ask who had authorized their change in procedures for 2008 and why. The person I spoke with had choice words for the crazy birthers but refused to answer questions about how the HDPs 2008 certificate was created. I specifically wanted to know what legal counsel had approved the changes to the document, when, and why. If there was a reasonable explanation for the change there should be no reason to hide any of that information.
Before finding out I was a birther the HDP worker had said that they dont have a specific attorney but take each issue as it comes up, with members of the Executive Committee sometimes pitching in their legal expertise. Looking online, the only attorney I was able to find who had represented the HDP in lawsuits in the last 15 years (3 different cases, 2 of which have now been scrubbed from the web and all of which are missing from the Hawaii court site) was William H Gilardy, Jr. The attorney who represented Obamas mother in her divorce from Lolo Soetoro. Chances are good that Gilardy has actually seen Obamas birth certificate not the late, amended Hawaii BC which has no legal value and couldnt be used for any legal purposes, but the one Obama actually used for identification purposes for kindergarten and college entry, application for a social security number, selective service registration, etc. All the stuff Obama has hidden.
Brian Schatz, HDP Chairman who signed the certificate, was Obamas campaign spokesman in Hawaii who graduated from (and later taught at) Punahou School ,where Obama graduated from high school, and spent a year in Kenya in 1992 (which overlaps Barack and Michelles visit to Kenya shortly before their wedding; by that time Obama had been president of Harvard Law Review and had a book deal) . He is now running for lieutenant governor and has been endorsed by Obamas half-sister, Maya.
The HDP refusing to certify Obamas eligibility is bad enough as it is, but for the HDPs usual legal counsel to be the very person who has probably seen Obamas non-Hawaii birth certificate is explosive.
All this was presumably known by Nancy Pelosi and Alice Travers Germond when they signed that special certification for Hawaii. It was almost certainly known by Joe Sandler when he had the special certificate drawn up, counseled Pelosi and Germond to sign it, and sent the letter of transmittal with both certificates to the HI Elections Office. Calls to Sandlers law office have been unreturned.
The HDP refused to answer my questions because they ridicule birthers. I solemnly suggest that if nobody in law enforcement will compel answers before then, the 2011 House Ethics Committee hopefully under Rep Darrell Issa initiate an investigation into potential perjury by Nancy Pelosi, aided by the potential subornation of perjury by DNC Attorney Joseph Sandler.
To: butterdezillion
Got a link other than to your blog?
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posted on
09/08/2010 7:24:37 PM PDT
by
Envisioning
(Call me a racist,........one more time.....)
To: butterdezillion
To: Envisioning
The links are contained within the blog post. I tried getting the links to post here but it messed up the spacing so it was unreadable. If somebody can help me get both the spacing and links I’d be happy to put it all here.
(My apologies for my technological deficiencies.)
To: cycle of discernment
More like the Sewage in the Swamp is starting to congeal...... The Republicans are going to have a difficult and stinky job cleaning up this mess starting in January 2011..............
To: butterdezillion
“And when the sun comes up over Molokai,
The lepers all come out
And cry to Baracki-Rakki Hoi
to carry us to Baracki Heaven...
Hoi! Hoi!
Aloha Joe....”
(With most sincere apologies to Flo and Eddie...)
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posted on
09/08/2010 7:29:21 PM PDT
by
Bean Counter
(Now what kind of a geroo are you anyway?)
To: butterdezillion
10
posted on
09/08/2010 7:34:33 PM PDT
by
smokingfrog
(freerepublic.com - Thanks JimRob! The flags are back! - 8/17/2010.)
To: butterdezillion
One thing’s for sure—they all should be in prison.
11
posted on
09/08/2010 7:34:55 PM PDT
by
reasonisfaith
(Rules will never work for radicals (liberals) because they seek chaos. And don't even know it.)
To: butterdezillion
Butterdezillion, this is tremendous work by someone who obviously knows their stuff. Thanks very much!!
12
posted on
09/08/2010 7:37:30 PM PDT
by
Genoa
(Titus 2:13)
To: butterdezillion; Aurorales
Hmm, here’s info for you, aurorales!
13
posted on
09/08/2010 7:39:36 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
To: butterdezillion
Hey! Maybe that’s why God is destroying them all! They haven’t yet seen that once you begin something by breaking a commandment (bearing false witness, let’s say) then all bets are off as far as the Celestial Power is concerned.
Well, as they say “Don’t Eat the Yellow Snow in Hawaii”
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posted on
09/08/2010 7:39:53 PM PDT
by
februus
To: Envisioning
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posted on
09/08/2010 7:40:33 PM PDT
by
raybbr
(Someone who invades another country is NOT an immigrant - illegal or otherwise.)
To: butterdezillion
To: LucyT
Lucy, can you ping the list to this post, please?
People may know most of this by now, but I’ve got the documentation posted on my blog now (except the uploads I need my husband to help me with).
Thanks!
To: jakerobins
I don’t think there will be any problem getting Zero out of the WH. Getting all the other criminals into some Federal prison might be a bit more difficult. Good work here and it will not be avoided by the LameSM.
Hell, some of those propaganda twirps are likely to be heading to Leavenworth.
And I do believe it will not be “stinky” but the “sweet smell of success”. It will be Morning in America,again.
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posted on
09/08/2010 7:45:20 PM PDT
by
SonsOfCollins_Wallace
("... if yah ken behr eit" OR "where yah goin William ?.... ")
To: butterdezillion
June 20, 2010
Hawaii elections clerk: Obama birth not here
A college professor who worked as a senior elections clerk for the City and County of Honolulu in 2008 is making the stunning claim Barack Obama was definitely not born in Hawaii as the White House maintains, and that a long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama does not even exist in the Aloha State.
Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for Honolulu, now teaches English at Western Kentucky University.
“There is no birth certificate,” said Tim Adams, a graduate assistant who teaches English at Western Kentucky University in Bowling Green, Ky. “It’s like an open secret. There isn’t one. Everyone in the government there knows this.”
Adams, who says he’s a Hillary Clinton supporter who ended up voting for John McCain when Clinton lost the Democratic nomination to Obama, told WND, “I managed the absentee-ballot office. It was my job to verify the voters’ identity.”
He says during the 2008 campaign when the issue of Obama’s constitutional eligibility first arose, the elections office was inundated with requests to verify the birthplace of the U.S. senator from Illinois.
“I had direct access to the Social Security database, the national crime computer, state driver’s license information, international passport information, basically just about anything you can imagine to get someone’s identity,” Adams explained. “I could look up what bank your home mortgage was in. I was informed by my boss that we did not have a birth record [for Obama].”
At the time, there were conflicting reports that Obama had been born at the Queen’s Medical Center in Honolulu, as well as the Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children across town. So Adams says his office checked with both facilities.
To: raybbr
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posted on
09/08/2010 7:46:51 PM PDT
by
Envisioning
(Call me a racist,........one more time.....)
To: butterdezillion
Bump....will have to read later. One thing I KNOW is that you’ve got a lot of blood, sweat and tears involved in your research. (Hope the SP’s don’t show up.)
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posted on
09/08/2010 7:48:15 PM PDT
by
azishot
(I can see November from my house!)
To: presently no screen name
I’ve been in contact with Lakin’s defense regarding some of my other findinds, via G Gordon Liddy. I think the Lakin team just about has to have another attorney look at the information, screen it for its potential value, and recommend only what has much legal value.
So if there is an attorney who would be willing to look at this and evaluate whether the evidence is compelling and the argument pertinent, that would be great. If it seems worth Lakin’s counsel spending time on, an attorney recommending it would probably be the best way to get the information to Lakin - like Liddy was willing to recommend some of my other evidence.
To: butterdezillion
Do you realize what peril you have now placed Gilardy in? These are not just politicians lying to the public, these are power lusting dead-souls who may already have murdered persons who can endanger the supposed legitimacy of the bastard boy soiling the people’s Oval Office! If Gilardy would not sign off on illegitimacy before the election, how can he be allowed to continue to breath if he could reveal criminality of the bastard-in-chief? The thigocracy will not tolerate loose ends, even if it is butterdezillion who uncovers them. Phil Berg may be about to yank the rug right from under the sonofabitch in the White Hut. God protect Gilardy and Berg and all associated to them.
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posted on
09/08/2010 7:55:39 PM PDT
by
MHGinTN
(Mormons, believing they cannot be deceived; nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
To: butterdezillion
The question about UhBama’s Constitutional qualification to hold office for me focuses on the “natural born” aspect. Apart from his sliding popularity, if a single state manages to pass an election law that requires affirmative proof that candidates are fully qualified for the offices they are running for, then this issue will come to a head before the 2012 primary season. And if UhBama’s legal team cannot intimidate those states into giving him a pass, then he will find a graceful way to decline to run for a second term.
While UhBama will only be with us for the remainder of his sole term in office, what concerns me even more about this issue is the distinct unwillingness of the federal judiciary to allow any legal case that touches on the issue to proceed to discovery. We will have these weak milk-toast federal judges with us for the remainder of their life terms.
As far as I am concerned, every time a judge finds a flimsy excuse to dismiss these cases, justice and the Constitution itself has just suffered a grave insult.
To: smokingfrog
Why Pelosi and Germond Signed a Different Certificate of Nomination for Hawaii
Canada Free Press broke a story showing that Nancy Pelosi and Alice Travers Germond , as representatives of the Democratic National Committee, had signed one Certificate of Nomination for Obama and Biden that was sent to 49 states, and another that was sent only to Hawaii. Only the certificate sent to Hawaii included a statement that Obama and Biden were Constitutionally qualified to serve as President and Vice-President.
That certificate of nomination for Hawaii is the ONLY statement in this nation signed by somebody besides Obama which claims that Obama is Constitutionally eligible to be President. Contrary to arguments that Congress certified Obama’s eligibility when they certified the results of the electoral vote, neither representatives of Congress nor any Secretary of State has signed a legal document saying that Obama is eligible. This one oath by Pelosi and Germond is the only legal claim that Obama’s eligibility was verified.
And there is a huge story about how this particular certificate came to be, which the House Ethics Committee, every state Attorney General, and the public at large need to know.
First off, they need to know that the Hawaii Department of Health has confirmed that neither Pelosi nor Germond, nor any leader of either the Democratic National Committee or the Hawaii Democratic Party, has ever even asked to see Obama’s birth certificate. So Pelosi and Germond did not sign this document because they saw a certified copy from the HDOH office. And in fact, if they had seen anything from the HDOH office they would have known his Hawaii birth certificate has been amended and has no legal value.
It’s been removed from the web, but shortly after CFP published their original article about the Certificates of Nomination, somebody claiming to represent the DNC stated on a discussion board that the DNC relies on the state parties to verify Constitutional eligibility for candidates, so the oath by Pelosi and Germond would just confirm that the state democratic parties had confirmed the Constitutional eligibility of the candidates.
But this is where the argument totally falls apart, because the Hawaii Democratic Party actually ignored their protocols in 2008 in order to specifically NOT certify Obama’s eligibility as they had done for candidates in the past. IOW, if Pelosi based her decision to certify on whether the state party would confirm eligibility, then she had a duty to NOT certify Obama’s eligibility, because the democratic party of the state supposedly holding Obama’s birth certificate REFUSED TO CERTIFY Obama’s eligibility.
I requested and received from the Hawaii Dept of Elections the certificates of nomination from both the DNC and Hawaii Democratic Party (HDP). I was told their records only go as far back as 2000. In 2000 and 2004 the HDP waited until about a month after the National Convention and then signed and hand-delivered to the Hawaii Elections Office their certification that the candidates 1) were chosen by both the state and national parties and 2) were Constitutionally eligible to be President and VP. That was the HDP’s standard procedure, fulfilling both of Hawaii’s 2 requirements for placement on the ballot. (I will upload those documents as soon as I can get my husband to scan them.)
In 2008 the HDP signed their certification with the Constitutional eligibility language removed at the National Convention, on the day BEFORE Pelosi and Germond signed the DNC certificate. They then apparently gave their HDP certificate to DNC Attorney Joseph Sandler, who then had a special certificate created and signed by Pelosi and Germond just for Hawaii (since the HDP refused to certify eligibility) and then sent both certifications, with his own letter of transmittal, to the Hawaii Elections Office.
So instead of acting independently a month after the National Convention and confirming Constitutional eligibility as in the past, the HDP acted before the Convention to take out the eligibility language from their standard certificate, signed it, and gave it to Joe Sandler before Pelosi had signed anything – signaling to the DNC that they were not going to certify eligibility. They coordinated their efforts with Joe Sandler, who sent both documents together to the HI Elections Office. Apparently Sandler, Pelosi, and Germond all knew that Hawaii’s special certification was necessary because the HDP refused to certify Obama’s eligibility.
The question that begs an answer is: Why did the Hawaii Democratic Party refuse to certify Obama’s eligibility as they had always done to successfully place presidential candidates on the ballots before?
A former DNC official allegedly said the DNC added the eligibility language to be cautious, but that doesn’t explain why the HDP took OUT their certification which had always been sufficient in the past. Being “cautious” would mean either doing it the way it had always worked before, or ADDING to what had always worked before not trying out an experiment that had never been tried before. Sandler had been counsel for the DNC in 1996, 2000 and 2004, and the Hawaii election law hasn’t changed since 1993 so there was no reason to believe the protocols always used weren’t sufficient. And if the DNC had questions they didn’t ask anybody about them; Deputy AG Aaron Schulaner didn’t remember anybody from the HDP or DNC asking about the requirement and said it doesn’t matter which of the 2 bodies certified eligibility.
I called the HDP headquarters on Nov 13, 2009, to ask who had authorized their change in procedures for 2008 and why. The person I spoke with had choice words for the “crazy birthers” but refused to answer questions about how the HDP’s 2008 certificate was created. I specifically wanted to know what legal counsel had approved the changes to the document, when, and why. If there was a reasonable explanation for the change there should be no reason to hide any of that information.
Before finding out I was a “birther” the HDP worker had said that they don’t have a specific attorney but take each issue as it comes up, with members of the Executive Committee sometimes pitching in their legal expertise. Looking online, the only attorney I was able to find who had represented the HDP in lawsuits in the last 15 years (3 different cases, 2 of which have now been scrubbed from the web and all of which are missing from the Hawaii court site) was William H Gilardy, Jr. The attorney who represented Obama’s mother in her divorce from Lolo Soetoro. Chances are good that Gilardy has actually seen Obama’s birth certificate not the late, amended Hawaii BC which has no legal value and couldn’t be used for any legal purposes, but the one Obama actually used for identification purposes for kindergarten and college entry, application for a social security number, selective service registration, etc. All the stuff Obama has hidden.
Brian Schatz, HDP Chairman who signed the certificate, was Obama’s campaign spokesman in Hawaii who graduated from (and later taught at) Punahou School ,where Obama graduated from high school, and spent a year in Kenya in 1992 (which overlaps Barack and Michelle’s visit to Kenya shortly before their wedding; by that time Obama had been president of Harvard Law Review and had a book deal) . He is now running for lieutenant governor and has been endorsed by Obama’s half-sister, Maya.
The HDP refusing to certify Obama’s eligibility is bad enough as it is, but for the HDP’s usual legal counsel to be the very person who has probably seen Obama’s non-Hawaii birth certificate is explosive.
All this was presumably known by Nancy Pelosi and Alice Travers Germond when they signed that special certification for Hawaii. It was almost certainly known by Joe Sandler when he had the special certificate drawn up, counseled Pelosi and Germond to sign it, and sent the letter of transmittal with both certificates to the HI Elections Office. Calls to Sandler’s law office have been unreturned.
The HDP refused to answer my questions because they ridicule “birthers”. I solemnly suggest that if nobody in law enforcement will compel answers before then, the 2011 House Ethics Committee hopefully under Rep Darrell Issa initiate an investigation into potential perjury by Nancy Pelosi, aided by the potential subornation of perjury by DNC Attorney Joseph Sandler.
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posted on
09/08/2010 8:04:21 PM PDT
by
smokingfrog
(freerepublic.com - Thanks JimRob! The flags are back! - 8/17/2010.)
To: butterdezillion
“Source”?
I think this is factually incorrect. She is reported to have sent the correct document to a few states. 2-3
There is definately an issue with how Pelosi certified his eligibility. There were a few sent to the Secretary of State with the correct wording, but most simply said he was selected.
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posted on
09/08/2010 8:06:59 PM PDT
by
Texas Fossil
(Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one.)
To: reasonisfaith
I wonder how much it will cost US taxpayers for Secret Service protection of Bark Obama when he is in the gray bar hotel. Ha who would want to pull that duty? 10 years worth after he leaves office...hmmm...
I think this is one bill taxpaying Americans will pay with a little smirk on their faces.
To: smokingfrog
The Nation knows he is illegal in their heart. If the court wants that same treatment they shall receive it.
28
posted on
09/08/2010 8:08:07 PM PDT
by
eyedigress
((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
To: eyedigress
....Ha....and both docs had THE SAME TYPO.....
someone posted a couple of samples.
This was never adequately explained.
29
posted on
09/08/2010 8:17:59 PM PDT
by
spokeshave
(Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
To: butterdezillion
30
posted on
09/08/2010 8:24:18 PM PDT
by
Armed Civilian
("Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in pursuit of justice is no virtue.")
To: rolling_stone
I doubt he’d get SS protection after being proved ineligible.
31
posted on
09/08/2010 8:24:39 PM PDT
by
PeaceBeWithYou
(De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
To: butterdezillion; NYC_BULLMOOSE; Lmo56; Doug TX; RubyR; bergmeid; Free America52; erkyl; ...

Why Pelosi Signed Two Certificates of Nomination
. . . . . Check out Article and # 4.
[Thanks, butterdezillion.]
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posted on
09/08/2010 8:25:44 PM PDT
by
LucyT
To: PeaceBeWithYou
To: spokeshave
here you all are:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2040486/posts?page=8379#8379
SEE THE TYPO ON SECOND LINE OF EACH SAMPLE
Thread has over 9000 comments
Enjoy
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posted on
09/08/2010 8:32:27 PM PDT
by
spokeshave
(Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
To: butterdezillion
Excellent detective work. I hope soon these research efforts of yours and some other stalwarts will reach those who can take action.
35
posted on
09/08/2010 8:33:10 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
To: MHGinTN
At this point I think that killing Gilardy would only make things much, much worse for them - because whatever Gilardy was able to see is available to anybody who can get a judge to order the documents released, or any prosecuting attorney who initiates an investigation and issues subpoenas.
The thing I keep coming back to is that there is safety once the public as a whole knows Obama would like to kill you. Because if something suspicious happens it ups the ante to the level of murder.
I don’t want to put anybody in serious risk. I do pray for the safety of Gilardy and for anybody who may be in the thugs’ cross-hairs. I hope and pray that what has been said will make it unthinkable for the thugs to do anything to him because it would be so incriminating for them.
God, help me be wise; deliver me from unintended consequences, and forgive any harm I might cause. Amen.
To: LucyT
Keep on it! We need to push on every front. I think more people need to contact all congress people letting them know that the information is getting around the nation. They need to know that we know and it’s not going away.
To: butterdezillion; David; BP2
Pinging both of you to butterdezillion’s post about Lakin and another attorney. Ideas?
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posted on
09/08/2010 8:36:41 PM PDT
by
little jeremiah
(Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
To: smokingfrog
Thank you so much!! That is so much better! =)
To: Texas Fossil
Do you have any links or other ways I can find more information about that? I would love to know which states received the other one, and I certainly want to correct any errors. So thanks for the clue and if you can help me find out the documentation for that I will certainly correct my post to reflect the new information.
To: smokingfrog
There it is follow the ling third doc second line
25 though 28
enjoy
in 2008 the HDP signed their certification with the Constitutional eligibility language removed at the National Convention, on the day BEFORE Pelosi and Germond signed the DNC certificate.
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posted on
09/08/2010 8:44:20 PM PDT
by
spokeshave
(Islamics and Democrats unite to cut off Adam Smith's invisible hand)
To: LucyT; butterdezillion
Thanks for the ping, Lucy.
Yes, most of this is familiar to those of us who have been following this criminal scandal. But there are a few new details here. And the pressure must be mounting on the Hawaiian officials who have been stonewalling and lying about this whole business.
I don’t know if the lawyer is really in danger of being rubbed out by Obama’s Chicago Mafia thugs. Because if they did that, it might well scare some of the other Hawaiian officials into going public in order to protect themselves from being rubbed out too. There must be quite a few people in Hawaii who are in on these dirty secrets by now.
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posted on
09/08/2010 8:45:12 PM PDT
by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius.)
To: reasonisfaith
One things for surethey all should be in prison.Indeed.
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posted on
09/08/2010 8:48:34 PM PDT
by
bgill
(K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
To: spokeshave
Thank you. I had read that there was a typo but my brain must be fuzzy because I hadn’t caught it before. I see it now though, so thanks!
I get by with a LOT of help from my friends. =)
To: butterdezillion
I think the Lakin team just about has to have another attorney look at the information, screen it for its potential value, and recommend only what has much legal value.Godspeed, America.
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posted on
09/08/2010 8:50:48 PM PDT
by
bgill
(K Parliament- how could a young man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
To: CynicalBear
Yes. It was before I posted this so it didn’t include this, but I did fax a summary of some of the evidence on my blog to Rep Darrell Issa and Rep John Culberson, at the recommendation of somebody commenting on my blog. I meant to call their offices today and verify that they both got the fax but didn’t get that done. Tomorrow.
The passport stuff is huge and they’re feeling the heat on that. The more we can crank it up, the more likely it is that Obama will be pressured to resign at least. But I think people are beginning to realize that it took a lot of people either looking the other way or outright engaging in unethical or illegal behavior in order for this hoax to go down like it did. That corruption needs to be dealt with.
To: butterdezillion
Eligibility - Bookmarked for later
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posted on
09/08/2010 9:02:59 PM PDT
by
j_guru
To: butterdezillion
“(My apologies for my technological deficiencies.)”
DEAREST butterdezillion!!!!
Apologize NOT for “technological deficiencies”........the MAMMOTH amount of IMPORTANT work you have done over the recent years illustrates how YOU deserve the trip to Spain that Manchelle recently enjoyed....and MORE!
I applaud you.
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posted on
09/08/2010 9:03:23 PM PDT
by
Mortrey
(Impeach President Soros)
To: butterdezillion
Brian Schatz, HDP Chairman who signed the certificate, was Obamas campaign spokesman in Hawaii who graduated from (and later taught at) Punahou School ,where Obama graduated from high school, and spent a year in Kenya in 1992 (which overlaps Barack and Michelles visit to Kenya shortly before their wedding;
This guy could have cleaned up and/or tampered with Obama's Hawaiian school records.
To: texas_mrs
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