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Pistol-Packin' Mama Grizzly
Grand Rants ^ | 11-22-2010 | Stoutcat

Posted on 11/22/2010 8:58:09 AM PST by Stoutcat

It’s official. I’m now permitted by the great state of Massachusetts to purchase and carry firearms.

It was not that arduous a journey, actually; I expected much worse. About a month before Gerry’s post about being shot at, I had completed the certification course required by Massachusetts in order to be allowed to apply for permission to buy a gun.

The course itself was hugely educational (as was, I’m sure, at least part of the point). It cost me $100 for a day of classroom course work and a day at the shooting range to qualify. The instructor, Mike, was an ex-military guy who was willing to spend as long as it took to make sure my classmate and I understood absolutely everything there was to know about guns and their history, from the invention of gunpowder to the present...

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TOPICS: Government; Hobbies; Local News; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: banglist; beretta; guns; massachusetts; secondamendment

1 posted on 11/22/2010 8:58:11 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: Stoutcat

I learned how to shoot this year. I’ll be purchasing my first firearm next month. Next up is my concealed carry permit.

20 years ago I would have laughed you right out of the room if you said I would own a gun and actually enjoy target shooting. My how times change!


2 posted on 11/22/2010 9:03:14 AM PST by iceskater (11/2/10 - the beginning of the beginning of restoration.)
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To: iceskater

My wife was in that same category until my kids started going w/ me to the shooting range. She went to make sure I was being safe w/ them on time. She tried her hand at shooting a rifle one time and was hooked (and the best shot of all of us).


3 posted on 11/22/2010 9:06:07 AM PST by LowOiL (In Limbo)
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To: Stoutcat
$100 dollars a day? That's Massachusetts for you. Minutemen to almost total disarmament in 200 years.
4 posted on 11/22/2010 9:06:27 AM PST by dr_who
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To: Stoutcat

Bump


5 posted on 11/22/2010 9:07:13 AM PST by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat. (AKA The Pope's Hat))
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To: iceskater

I know exactly what you mean. I grew up in a gun-free household. It’s not that guns were “BAD” or anything, they were just never a part of life.

But my brother-in-law took me shooting a few months ago (in Las Vegas) and we had a blast! It was so much fun, I wanted to do it more. Who knew?!


6 posted on 11/22/2010 9:09:40 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: iceskater

I know exactly what you mean. I grew up in a gun-free household. It’s not that guns were “BAD” or anything, they were just never a part of life.

But my brother-in-law took me shooting a few months ago (in Las Vegas) and we had a blast! It was so much fun, I wanted to do it more. Who knew?!


7 posted on 11/22/2010 9:09:51 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: iceskater

I know exactly what you mean. I grew up in a gun-free household. It’s not that guns were “BAD” or anything, they were just never a part of life.

But my brother-in-law took me shooting a few months ago (in Las Vegas) and we had a blast! It was so much fun, I wanted to do it more. Who knew?!


8 posted on 11/22/2010 9:09:54 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: LowOiL

Heh. My instructor said that women were the best to train, because they listened and didn’t presume they automatically knew how to shoot. He always let the men shoot to qualify first, because the women invariably did better.


9 posted on 11/22/2010 9:11:36 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: Stoutcat

Here is some news for”Pistol,Packin’,Mama”,there are VERY few guns that can be sold in MASS!If you want a Colt 1911,it must have been registered prior to 1998!!


10 posted on 11/22/2010 9:12:36 AM PST by bandleader
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To: dr_who

No, it was $100 for both days. Then another $100 to apply for the license. And evidently there are a lot more MA shooters than the state would have us believe.

So the Minutemen are still here. And I will now be one of them.


11 posted on 11/22/2010 9:13:53 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: Stoutcat

Sorry about the duplicate comments, I have no idea why that happened. If anyone can delete the dups, please do so!


12 posted on 11/22/2010 9:15:00 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: Stoutcat

I grew up in the people’s republic of Maryland. Owning a gun meant you were a redneck or a criminal or both.

Then I moved to Virginia. Of course it took over 30 years living here to finally learn to shoot. But hey, I may be late to the party but I’m here!


13 posted on 11/22/2010 9:15:08 AM PST by iceskater (11/2/10 - the beginning of the beginning of restoration.)
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To: PistolPaknMama

PING!


14 posted on 11/22/2010 9:17:04 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: bandleader

Actually, since I can’t get the Beretta Neos, I was thinking about a S&W Ladysmith .38. But I still want a .22 to learn and practice with! Any suggestions?


15 posted on 11/22/2010 9:18:47 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: Stoutcat

...there are a lot more MA shooters...

So true. Most of the country believes that MA is only inhabited by the Shrieking Flaming Brie eating Liberal.
I’ve met more gun-toting-died-in-the-wool-Red-neck-Conservatives in MA than down here in SC.

Stay away from the big cities in MA and you’ll meet the descendants of the people who Stood-Their-Ground and told the British to shove-off...


16 posted on 11/22/2010 9:21:26 AM PST by Paisan
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To: Stoutcat

But I still want a .22 to learn and practice with!

I just bought the Henry Golden Boy Lever Action .22. You can go with the Ruger 10/.22 for less, but with the Henry, you feel like you’re holding a bit of history. DON’T scope it. Learn to shoot it...


17 posted on 11/22/2010 9:25:57 AM PST by Paisan
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To: Stoutcat
So what I want to do is get a nice little Beretta U22 Neos as a starter gun to learn on. Sadly, Massachusetts gun dealers are not allowed to sell Berettas. Now what do I do?

Show em you are proud of Mass. Buy Mass made.

Proudly made in the USA since 1852

18 posted on 11/22/2010 9:25:59 AM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: Stoutcat

Ooops. You’re talking pistols. I would go with the Ruger with the extended barrel. The exact model escapes me at the moment.


19 posted on 11/22/2010 9:27:49 AM PST by Paisan
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To: iceskater

I guess I’m both a redneck and a criminal. But then, I just moved here.


20 posted on 11/22/2010 9:35:24 AM PST by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: Stoutcat

I see this at Appleseed clinics a lot.


21 posted on 11/22/2010 9:51:37 AM PST by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: Paisan

A Marlin 795 can be had for under $100 after the mail in rebate. Bring it to an Appleseed.


22 posted on 11/22/2010 9:55:00 AM PST by ebshumidors ( Marksmanship and YOUR heritage http://www.appleseedinfo.org)
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To: Stoutcat
(Scratches head)

You had to pay a 100USD just to apply for a permit to carry a weapon?

Wow. Must be an expensive place to live. Oh well, good luck on the permit. Can be a fun sport for sure.

23 posted on 11/22/2010 9:58:16 AM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: iceskater

20 years ago, the inmates weren’t running the asylum. We now have a total fruitcake trying to play the role of President.


24 posted on 11/22/2010 10:00:07 AM PST by seemoAR
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To: Paisan

Heh, yeah, pistols. But my husband would give his left arm for a Henry Golden Boy... and I must say, it’s a mighty pretty rifle!


25 posted on 11/22/2010 10:00:22 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: Paisan
Ooops. You’re talking pistols. I would go with the Ruger with the extended barrel. The exact model escapes me at the moment.

Ruger Mark II or III. Browning Buckmark also gets high marks for reliable 22 pistols.

26 posted on 11/22/2010 10:01:28 AM PST by ProfoundMan (Time to finish the Reagan Revolution! - RightyPics.com)
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To: ASOC
You had to pay a 100USD just to apply for a permit to carry a weapon?
Yep, and it's non-refundable if anything in your background check isn't perfectly clean, or if the Police Chief doesn't like you... That's my Massachusetts!
27 posted on 11/22/2010 10:04:25 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: Paisan

For some reason, I REALLY don’t like the Ruger. Don’t like the way it looks, don’t like the way it feels in my hand. Don’t know why.


28 posted on 11/22/2010 10:06:55 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: Stoutcat

Here in the Free United States, we can walk into a store, pick one out, wait 15 minutes for the background check, pay, and walk out with it.

Hard to believe that Massholechussetts was the cradle of American Liberty.


29 posted on 11/22/2010 10:12:10 AM PST by EricT. (Can we start hanging them yet?)
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To: EricT.
Here in the Free United States, we can walk into a store, pick one out, wait 15 minutes for the background check, pay, and walk out with it. Hard to believe that Massholechussetts was the cradle of American Liberty.

The people that came from that cradle moved south and west years ago...Massachusetts and most of New England was restocked with socialist Europeans...

30 posted on 11/22/2010 10:16:44 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Stoutcat

Thanks.

I suppose it covers “the expense of processing”

Cost here in Ak is (wait for it) $94.25. I guess they think the odd nuber ‘proves’ how closely they track cost of applications.

Fortunatly, permits are not required for CCW in State.

Best of luck on the permit, it can make a difference.


31 posted on 11/22/2010 10:21:45 AM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: Stoutcat
completed the certification course required by Massachusetts in order to be allowed to apply for permission to buy a gun

That loud popping sound was my head exploding. The Founding Father, especially those from MA, would be plotting a second Revolution today.

32 posted on 11/22/2010 12:58:11 PM PST by 11Bush
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To: 11Bush

What makes you think... ? :-)


33 posted on 11/22/2010 1:09:27 PM PST by Stoutcat
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To: Stoutcat

if the 38 you want to buy is a snub nose, remmber it has alot of rcoil, Iconvinced my wife to get a 380 bersa, alot less recoil and still enough knock down power to do the job of detering an intruder, if someone tells you it does’nt have enough knockdown power tell them to put a 380 round into a 2 by 4 and look at the damage.


34 posted on 11/22/2010 2:53:54 PM PST by saturn1964
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To: Stoutcat

It depends on the student. If someone WANTS to learn, they will learn. Women have special problems with weakness and small hands. Some women also have a problem with going to the range when it’s hot, cold, windy or wet. You don’t succeed by picking nothing but ideal conditions.

Most women who shoot for the first time treat it just as a one time event to be marked off their bucket list.

If you are serious about learning to shoot, join the IDPA in order to use a handgun or attend an NRA high power rifle match for rifles.


35 posted on 11/22/2010 5:05:51 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Stoutcat

http://www.walther-sp22.com/


36 posted on 11/22/2010 5:11:42 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (NRA /Patron - TSRA- IDPA)
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To: Paisan

My local gun shop has a nice selection of Henry rifles. I salivate whenever I go in there.


37 posted on 11/22/2010 10:25:08 PM PST by scott7278 ( "...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: Shooter 2.5

I second that. That was the first gun Mom bought after moving from gun-neutral to pro-gun. She shoots like a pro!


38 posted on 11/22/2010 10:30:46 PM PST by scott7278 ( "...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: Stoutcat

Welcome to the club, fellow patriot!


39 posted on 11/22/2010 10:32:45 PM PST by scott7278 ( "...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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To: Stoutcat

While .22 ammo is certainly cheap for practicing, 9mm is also pretty cheap, and if you went with something like a walther pps, you would probably enjoy shooting it, more than a ladysmith. The Walther PPS is also MA compliant.

I have a PPS, and could shoot it all day long. I also have a Smith & Wesson 642, and even changing the trigger spring, my hand gets tired after about forty rds. The Walther, I can go seventy rds before my trigger finger is exhausted.

Or you could just buy both guns because one isn’t really enough...


40 posted on 11/22/2010 11:52:08 PM PST by sockmonkey
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To: Stoutcat
EAA offers a very fine .357 snubby with rubber grip for a very reasonable price (search 'Windicator'). Load it with .38 Spcl +P hollowpoints for personal defense. Practice with .38 spcl rounds.

I have found the earlier Phoenix Arms .22lr semi-autos, 10 round magazine, to be very reliable and quite accurate. You can put the five inch barrel on for target practice and carry it with a three inch barrel. Either way it is a tack driver and reliable, in my experience. Buy the pistol for under $150 and order a five inch barrel and extra mag with finger hold for under fifty. Great little guns in stainless or blued (I recommend the blued in the newer models).

41 posted on 11/23/2010 12:02:29 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: sockmonkey

Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions. Since the Beretta Neos is a non-starter here in MA, I’m now leaning toward the Walther P22 as a “starter” and then will probably upgrade to a 9mm of some sort.

But as I’m still a neophyte at this, I want to start with something I know I can handle, and really learn how it works in a practical way. Also, I have a very small hand, even for a woman, so the smaller guns are virtually a necessity for me...


42 posted on 11/23/2010 5:51:45 AM PST by Stoutcat
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To: Stoutcat

Congrats. Great post!


43 posted on 11/23/2010 5:55:08 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (I'm not Anti-Obama - I'm Pro-America)
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To: Stoutcat

Congratulations. Now stay out of Costco, especially in Las Vegas.


44 posted on 11/23/2010 5:57:16 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Stoutcat
I have a very small hand, even for a woman

A Walther PPS, with the small backstrap on it might just fit your hand perfectly,

Also, something like the Ruger LCP is very small gripwise. And super concealable for down the line when you get a carry permit. .380 ammo is still sometimes scarce, at least around here.

45 posted on 11/23/2010 9:08:27 AM PST by sockmonkey (LCP stands for Little Cute Pistol)
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To: sockmonkey

S&W Lady Smith is a great weapon.


46 posted on 11/23/2010 9:09:01 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (I'm not Anti-Obama - I'm Pro-America)
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