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Gander Mountain (N.Y. state) -- pistol permit to purchase ammo???
self | 11/27/10 | NewJerseyJoe

Posted on 11/27/2010 7:21:13 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe

Gander Mountain is having a Thanksgiving weekend special on Remington UMC 9mm Luger ammo. Went in this morning to purchase ... and the guy at the counter asked for my pistol permit. Huh? Never before have I been asked for a pistol permit in order to purchase ammo.

I live just over the state line in New Jersey, and getting a pistol permit here is generally about a 30-day effort. So I'll miss this sale.

Is this a new law in New York? I never encountered this situation before.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: 2a; ammo; ammunition; banglist; gandermountain; newyork

1 posted on 11/27/2010 7:21:19 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe
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To: NewJerseyJoe

I have never heard of such a thing.

Do you need a DL to purchase gas or diesel?


2 posted on 11/27/2010 7:24:38 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

What if you wanted it for a carbine?
Or are those illegal in NY?


3 posted on 11/27/2010 7:29:28 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

That isn’t a very good price, and the add says that is the “web price only”


4 posted on 11/27/2010 7:31:25 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Did the clerk decline to sell you the ammo without your permit, or did he or she just request it, leading you to believe on your own that it was required? Sounds like something an anti-gun clerk would do. Ask in a very officious tone for your permit, knowing full well it's not a requirement, just to scare off some buyers who don't know the difference.

I wouldn't put anything past them!

5 posted on 11/27/2010 7:32:34 AM PST by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Only a licensed handgun owner is allowed to possess ammunition suitable for the licensed handgun and is allowed to possess an ammunition feeding device for the licensed handgun, but not to exceed 17 rounds capacity.

http://www.nraila.org/gunlaws/nyc.aspx


6 posted on 11/27/2010 7:33:15 AM PST by smokingfrog ( ><}}}}}}(0>)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

In NYC you need the permit. Outside no, but it could be store policy in areas near the city.

F them.


7 posted on 11/27/2010 7:35:41 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: smokingfrog

That’s a New York CITY law. NYC laws are separate from the rest of N.Y. state.


8 posted on 11/27/2010 7:39:49 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: jwparkerjr

I live across the state line in New Jersey. I had my N.J. Firearms ID with me, but getting a pistol permit in N.J. (which has to done EACH time you want to buy a pistol) is about a 30-day endeavor.

After I showed my ID and it still wasn’t good enough, I left. I sent a message to Gander Mountain asking why I was refused purchase, even though N.Y. state law has no prohibition on ammunition purchase.


9 posted on 11/27/2010 7:41:51 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: mylife

The price was also in Gander Mountain’s Black Friday sale flyer (prices good all weekend).

Where I live, that actually *is* a good price. Gubmint ain’t too friendly to gun owners around these parts.


10 posted on 11/27/2010 7:43:52 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Well, good luck on your purchase.


11 posted on 11/27/2010 7:45:50 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: mylife

Wallyworld in Fishkill, NY demends a NY State permit for pistol calibers.
For .22—they ask what KIND of weapon you use. (Better say a rifle!)


12 posted on 11/27/2010 7:50:17 AM PST by Flintlock
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To: Flintlock

9mm is not exclusive to handguns either, so what if you wanted to buy 9mm ammunition for a rifle?


13 posted on 11/27/2010 7:54:52 AM PST by smokingfrog ( ><}}}}}}(0>)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Geographically, yes. Philosophically, not so much. They keep electing morons like Chucky Schumer.


14 posted on 11/27/2010 7:56:53 AM PST by Dick Bachert (11/2 was a good start. Onward to '12. U Pubbies be strong or next time we send in the libertarians!)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

I don’t think it matters where you live in New York state, you still need a license/permit to own or possess a handgun. But NY city is even more restrictive.


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To: NewJerseyJoe
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16 posted on 11/27/2010 8:02:15 AM PST by Dick Bachert (11/2 was a good start. Onward to '12. U Pubbies be strong or next time we send in the libertarians!)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

What goes on in states like NJ and NY still stuns me. I can walk into my local Wal*Mart or Dick’s or Cabela’s and buy whatever ammunition I want.


17 posted on 11/27/2010 8:02:50 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
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18 posted on 11/27/2010 8:03:29 AM PST by Logical me
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To: Logical me

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19 posted on 11/27/2010 8:04:47 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (Who needs Al Queda to worry about when we have Obama?)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

I take it back.
That is the best price I can find and Gander has free shipping.


20 posted on 11/27/2010 8:09:12 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: Flintlock

So say the 9mm is for a carbine.


21 posted on 11/27/2010 8:12:01 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: smokingfrog

I was trying to purchase ammo, not a gun. I checked N.Y. state law — outside of NYC, there are no laws (that I could find) requiring a pistol permit for ammo purchases.

The really weird thing is that I’ve purchased ammo in the past at this particular store location. I was never asked for any kind of ID or permit — until today.


22 posted on 11/27/2010 8:16:15 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

You should have your head examined for being within a thousand miles of New York.


23 posted on 11/27/2010 8:35:23 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

I’d recommend showing him the 2nd amendment.


24 posted on 11/27/2010 8:37:54 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

You may have had a clerk that was new. Call the store and complain. Tell them you want a discount in order to pay you back for the gas to get back down there or a store credit on something else.

If that doesn’t work email corporate.

I had a local Home Depot that was just being ignorant over a policy. I wrote an email to Home Depot telling them they were screwing over their customers and how boneheaded that was in today’s economy.

I think the local store manager emailed me everyday for a week asking me to come in and talk to him so he could fix my issue. I couldn’t get him to give me the time of day before that.


25 posted on 11/27/2010 8:45:24 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Defund National Peoples Radio!! Democrats are for free speech. Just not for you.)
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To: Flintlock; smokingfrog
For .22—they ask what KIND of weapon you use. (Better say a rifle!)

Believe it or not this is because kids 18-21 can BUY rifle ammo but not handgun ammo. So if you get asked what you're buying it for, are under 21 and tell them it's for a new .22 handgun you just got for your birthday, you're screwed - no sale.

I *think* that if you are 18-21 and you tell the store that you need 9mm for your carbine, that releases the store from liability for selling it to you. However, you may not find many that want to take the chance. Not sure what the applicable FEDERAL law is on that.

26 posted on 11/27/2010 8:51:36 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Defund National Peoples Radio!! Democrats are for free speech. Just not for you.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
> You should have your head examined for being within a thousand miles of New York.

Way to denigrate 1/3 of the country -- not only a bunch of red states, but those of us in the trenches in the blue states, still fighting the fight that red-staters take for granted. Nice going.

27 posted on 11/27/2010 9:10:56 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: mylife

Thank you for pointing that out! I didn’t know that free shipping was offered. So I just got my ammo from the website AND screwed New York state out of its 8% sales tax at the same time. Thanks for the tip!!


28 posted on 11/27/2010 9:13:20 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Glad it all worked out!


29 posted on 11/27/2010 9:15:17 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Wally does too
30 posted on 11/27/2010 9:15:29 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Looks like 2 day delivery for you.

Not shabby!


31 posted on 11/27/2010 9:16:17 AM PST by mylife (Opinions ~ $1 Half Baked ~ 50c)
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To: VeniVidiVici
> You may have had a clerk that was new.

I don't think so... when I said that I'd never had to show a pistol permit before, he said, "Not when *I* was here." Very self-assured -- smug, rather.

> If that doesn’t work email corporate.

Did that. We shall see what kind of response I get. If I do get a response, I'll post it here.

In the meantime, one of the respondents on this thread pointed out that the same item on the company's website was being offered with free shipping. So I ordered it that way! and avoided the sales tax to boot.

32 posted on 11/27/2010 9:16:46 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Joe,

Every time I’ve purchased ammo in NY at any big box store, they’ve asked me for my Firearms Purchaser ID. They say “pistol permit” since that’s what NY residents need and I give them my FPID.

If you go to Davis in Goshen they won’t but of course they aren’t having a sale.


33 posted on 11/27/2010 9:24:42 AM PST by Malsua
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To: NewJerseyJoe

Also...

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34 posted on 11/27/2010 9:29:19 AM PST by Malsua
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To: NewJerseyJoe
So I just got my ammo from the website AND screwed New York state out of its 8% sales tax at the same time. Thanks for the tip!!

A double!!

35 posted on 11/27/2010 9:54:42 AM PST by VeniVidiVici (Defund National Peoples Radio!! Democrats are for free speech. Just not for you.)
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To: Malsua

I showed them my NJ firearms ID — which apparently does not fulfill their requirement.

As I wrote in another reply on this thread, I’ve purchased ammo at Gander Mountain in Middletown before, but have never had to show any kind of permit/ID to buy that ammo.


36 posted on 11/27/2010 10:05:31 AM PST by NewJerseyJoe (Rat mantra: "Facts are meaningless! You can use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!")
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To: NewJerseyJoe
I’ve purchased ammo at Gander Mountain in Middletown before, but have never had to show any kind of permit/ID to buy that ammo.

I've purchased at the same store and been asked for my NJ FPID. I've also had to show my FPID at the Walmart just down the street from there.

37 posted on 11/27/2010 10:32:47 AM PST by Malsua
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To: NewJerseyJoe
Howdy from Texas, keep fighting the good fight, Joe.

Also, you may want to try CheaperThanDirt.com. They have very good prices, even when figuring shipping.

38 posted on 11/27/2010 10:38:23 AM PST by Tahoe3002
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To: NewJerseyJoe

It would be interesting to know what they have to allow about your experience. Maybe it will come as as big a surprise to them as it did to you, with a clerk acting independently for some reason.

Did you hear about the sale in an ad, and if so I don’t guess it mentioned this puzzling requirement.

If you get a response to your inquiry and have the time I would like to hear what it is.


39 posted on 11/27/2010 11:10:08 AM PST by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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