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Atty. Stephen Pidgeon: Irrelevant where Obama was born; probable cause for high treason
BirtherReport.com ^ | December 12, 2010 | Stephen Pidgeon

Posted on 12/12/2010 12:16:27 PM PST by Seizethecarp

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To: Drew68

One or perhaps two freepers heard 0bastard say that when he (or they) listend to the original debate on IIRC CSPAN.

Keyes was asked later and didn’t remember. (Much later was asked).


41 posted on 12/12/2010 3:56:39 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

sorry...not me...I only HEARD about it...looking for a video has turned of nothing, as far as I know.


42 posted on 12/12/2010 4:04:46 PM PST by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: little jeremiah
Keyes was asked later and didn’t remember. (Much later was asked).

You don't think Keyes has a copy of his own debate to watch? Good Lord, this isn't the 1950s. Keyes was most likely handed a burned DVD-R of the entire event within minutes of the debate ending.

Keyes has been a plaintiff in how many eligibility lawsuits now? And somehow, Obama looking him in the eye and admitting that he's not eligible to be President is an exchange that Keyes can't remember? And nobody can find this quote (not even Keyes himself) because every single copy of this debate that exists has been scrubbed? You expect people to believe this?

The reason nobody can find this infamous quote is because Obama never said it!

43 posted on 12/12/2010 4:06:58 PM PST by Drew68
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To: little jeremiah

The whole idea that Obama will be impeached or tried for treason is almost laughable. Not because he isn’t guilty of many said crimes, but because so many others made it possible for him to get to the Oval Office.

Complicit in his treachery is the entire leadership of the DNC that signed off on his legitimacy as a candidate. The very language on the form required to certify his qualification by birthright to be president was changed and signed off on for every state in the union. If that was not enough, there was and is significant voter fraud in numerous states and much of it was caught on video. The Democrats who supported Hillary Clinton made a series of videos documenting the voter fraud that gave Obama the nomination in Texas. : ‘We will not be silenced’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGZFgMNM-UU

The Obama campaign has spent millions to fend off any attempt to get at his birth certificate.

Then, after that, you can go into two years of ethical violations of his oath of office.

http://www.nachumlist.com/obamaethics.htm

All of which brings us to the knowledge that since so many will go down with him, it would take an unbeatable majority in both houses to make sure that his impeachment would be ratified.

So, to make a long story short. It is not going to happen any time soon.


44 posted on 12/12/2010 4:24:21 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Just shows how corrupt our Nation is, doesn't it?

We will see just how corrupt our newly elected Republican House is a month or two.

If they don't move to impeach Obama, you know the fix is in.

45 posted on 12/12/2010 4:25:04 PM PST by Doe Eyes
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Here it is; “The constitution only works if it is followed by a religious and moral people.”


46 posted on 12/12/2010 4:26:01 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Didn’t MO refer to Kenya as BO’s “homeland”? And even BO said, “...my muslim faith.” Slip of the old tongue? I don’t think so.


47 posted on 12/12/2010 4:27:42 PM PST by azishot (MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!!)
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To: Nachum

Let’s just say that where there’s life, there’s (real) hope.

Maybe some Rs will find courage. Maybe some Dems will not want to go down with the ship.


48 posted on 12/12/2010 4:28:31 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: B4Ranch; Las Vegas Ron

Here are a few that might work:

On the Importance of Morality and Religion in Government:
[W]e have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion....Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other. (Source: John Adams, The Works of John Adams, Second President of the United States, Charles Francis Adams, editor (Boston: Little, Brown, and Co. 1854), Vol. IX, p. 229, October 11, 1798.)

Religion and good morals are the only solid foundation of public
liberty and happiness.”

— Samuel Adams (letter to John Trumbull, 16 October 1778)”

Of all the dispositions and habits which least to political
prosperity, Religion and morality are indespensable supports.
In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism who should
labor to subvert these great Pilliars of human happiness.

— George Washington (Farewell Address, 19 September 1796)

“[O]ur ancestors established their system of government on morality and religious sentiment. Moral habits, they believed, cannot safely be trusted on any other foundation than religious principle, nor any government be secure which is not supported by moral habits.”
— Daniel Webster, American Jurist and Senator

“[W]hen People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners,
they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign
Invaders.” —Samuel Adams

And my very favorite:

“Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites—in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity;—in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption;—in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon the will and appetite is placed somewhere: and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.”
— Edmund Burke


49 posted on 12/12/2010 4:43:51 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Drew68

You know he never said it? You watched the debate live on CSPAN? No?

There was one and IIRC perhaps two freepers who did watch it live, and I think one taped it. The question and answer allegedly took place either right after the formal debate or in a break. It was not part of the formal debate.


50 posted on 12/12/2010 4:45:51 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.CSLewis)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams


51 posted on 12/12/2010 4:46:26 PM PST by stickywillie
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To: Seizethecarp
"I am expecting a Nixon-type replay where he is visited by representatives of his own party and informed that he will agree to step down in exchange for a full pardon by Biden."

If that is the case, you'll join the group that swore the cuffs would be slapped on Obama as soon as he took the oath of office. In other words, it ain't happening.

52 posted on 12/12/2010 4:54:21 PM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: little jeremiah

This is the one the government is using against us today.

“[W]hen People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders.”
—Samuel Adams

I have a hard time imagining a foreign invader taking over the US of A in its entirety because there is too many civilian arms and too many hunters who even though they are older they are good shots.

However the constant pressure against Christianity by the NEA and the Courts is enough evidence that there is a fight underway. Just the idea of a cross these days offends people. There is a lot of churches that don’t have a noticeable cross on the outside of their building.

This preference by cities towards Islam is enough to piss me off big time. Straight Agenda 21.


53 posted on 12/12/2010 5:03:08 PM PST by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: stickywillie; little jeremiah; B4Ranch
Bless you sticky, I was really stuck on that one....LJ, I'd love it and thank you B4!

Seriously, thank you!

54 posted on 12/12/2010 5:32:23 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (The Tree of Liberty did not grow from an ACORN!)
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To: little jeremiah

I am not disagreeing that it matters, only that I don’t believe that the republicans will remove obama even when they all know he is not the legal President.


55 posted on 12/12/2010 5:37:33 PM PST by omegadawn (qualified)
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To: little jeremiah; mojitojoe
LJ:"If he was born in Kenya and proof was made public, it would indeed matter."

and Mojito: "BS! Surely you don’t believe that."

This bugs me a lot. But, SERIOUSLY - what do you think would happen? Do you think congress would actually remove him from office after two years?

My practical mind thinks that would be the que to ignite race and anarchist riots across the nation and maybe beyond. The purpose of electing him was to be able to play the race card if anyone opposed any idea he came up with. So, no we are thinking it might be possible to actually question he, himself?

I'm sorry, but I just don't think so. The facts are the evidence and he has spent millions to avoid dealing with them in court. I'd like to see that happen and the fact that he has gone to so much trouble to not answer questions should have the media researching this 24/7. But, they won't.

Think about this; within 12 hours of a wee hours car wreck following a domestic dispute we knew every thing possible about the secret live of Tiger Woods. But no one knows much of anything about the most powerful man on the planet when it comes to his background, his college transcripts or those who have mentored him throughout his life.

The sad part is; we seem to have gone beyond the point where it matters to 95.5% of the nation and 100% of the media.

56 posted on 12/12/2010 5:43:40 PM PST by Baynative (on to 2012)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

do me a favor. don’t worry about it.


57 posted on 12/12/2010 5:54:20 PM PST by stickywillie
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
“In other words, it ain't happening.”

While I believe that conclusive proof that Obama hid a Kenyan birth would convince even the black community that he deserved to be removed, my expectation is that Democrats themselves will engineer his removal to save the Democratic Party (what is left of it) in the 2012 election.

There are 21 Democrat senators up in 2012 and half of them are vulnerable if the 2010 election is replayed including another battle over the tax cuts that Obama has set them up for. These senators and all Democrats are having a horrible time raising money. Obama raised $800 million IIRC in 2008, but the entire progressive wing has slammed their wallets shut and loath Obama now.

To save the presidency and the goodies that come with writing the executive orders in the federal agencies Democrats must have a new candidate in 2012 and they must allow that candidate to get started _now_!

All that bit about traipsing through the snows of New Hampshire is just one year from now.

58 posted on 12/12/2010 6:30:00 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: kalee

I was listening to Keyes being interviewed. The question was asked about Obama admitting he was born in Kenya. Keyes said it didnt happen. I saw the transcripts of the debate of when it was supposedly brought up. It wasn’t in there.


59 posted on 12/12/2010 6:48:45 PM PST by roving (Democrats love the military as long as they don't vote)
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To: little jeremiah; hoosiermama
Timing is everything...Nothing will happen until GOP is Speaker of the House/second in line to Presidency behind VP.

Needs graphic of Hammer Hitting Nail.


60 posted on 12/12/2010 8:04:26 PM PST by Diver Dave
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