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Don't Ask Don't Tell - a picture is worth a thousand words
Daryl L. Hunter - Perspective ^ | 12/17/2010 | Daryl L. Hunter

Posted on 12/17/2010 11:21:22 PM PST by Daryl L.Hunter

They say a picture is worth a thousand words, I think my graphic tells the story.

I grew up in a college town, San Luis Obispo CA, there was an active gay student union at Cal Poly in the early seventies and I knew lots of gays and accepted them. My best friend Barry, his brother was gay, and he shared a party house with Barry and it was a hangout all his gay friends. They were hilarious to watch, boys acting like girls and sounding like girls. There wasn’t a gram of testosterone between the whole group.

Unlike many conservatives, because of my early contact with the gays of my hometown I concluded that these guys were born way to effeminate to be 100% man. I believe most come by it honestly, and there is nothing they can do about it. That said, I wouldn’t want anyone that effeminate acing out a position in my platoon from a red blooded Iowa farm boy.

I am no anthropologist, but I have lived my anecdotal evidence and have drawn my own conclusions, as have many servicemen. Battle is for the macho and the macho fighting our battle need faith in the ranks of their platoon. Faith allegiance, assurance, belief, certainty, certitude, confidence, constancy, conviction, credence, credulity, dependence, loyalty, reliance, could all be in doubt by platoon member who doesn’t measure up measure up 100% on the man scale.

Is my position and the position of millions of others against gays in the military fact or perception? It doesn’t matter; our perception is the faith that we put on our unit members watching our backside and faith is too important to squander.

The chiefs of the Army, Marines and Air Force warned that implementing a repeal of the policy banning gays from serving openly in the military would be more difficult than a Pentagon study has suggested, challenging the assessments of other top military officials in the administration. Gen. James Amos, the Marine commandant, offered the most critical comments in a hearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee and recommended against a repeal at this time. He said the Marines would carry out a change in policy if Congress votes for it but said the shift has a "strong potential for disruption at the small-unit level."

"(A repeal) will no doubt divert leadership attention away from an almost singular focus of preparing units for combat," Amos said. "We asked for their opinions, and they gave them to us."

Nearly seven of every ten Marines in combat roles say repealing the policy that prohibits gays and lesbians from serving openly would harm their unit's effectiveness, more than any other branch of the armed forces, according to a long-awaited Pentagon survey. Forty-four percent of all service members said unit effectiveness would be harmed by its repeal; among the Marines whose jobs are on the front lines that number rose to 67 percent.

The Marine Corps' resistance has come from the top down. Former Commandant Gen. James Conway was a staunch opponent, and his successor, Gen. James Amos, says he believes it could be disruptive to troops at war in Afghanistan.

Our military stresses such martial virtues as courage, both physical and moral, a sense of honor and duty, discipline, a professional code of conduct, and loyalty. It places a premium on such factors as unit cohesion and morale. The glue of the military ethos is friendship, comradeship, brotherly love, trust and faith. The bond among disparate individuals who have nothing in common but facing death and misery together is the source of the unit cohesion that most research has shown to be critical to battlefield success.

If gays wanted to serve in non-battlefield positions, I would bet there could be an argument make for that.

It dumbfounds me that so many are willing to play politics in an arena as important as the one that protects our country.


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To: Rippin
Going through battle though might change some things in the biochemistry

Yes it might but it may have taken a toll on the troops in the mean time as others in the platoon may have not acted as decisively as they may not have been confident of who was covering for them. This is about confidence and trust.

21 posted on 12/18/2010 7:01:27 AM PST by Daryl L.Hunter
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To: Daryl L.Hunter

Nice article except for the “born that way” part. We get gays from liberal, perverted upbringings, most were probably molested to be brought into the fold. BUT, they can change if they want to, many have done so through our Lord Jesus Christ.


22 posted on 12/18/2010 7:03:20 AM PST by conservaterian (Sarah/DeMint '12)
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To: McGavin999
They can segregate the troops based on “tests” that determine their best “usage”. They are psycologically fit to serve here and not there. Put them all in one place and let them frolic all they want and leave the rest of the military alone.

If it was guaranteed that gays would fill positions in the rear (pun intended) that would remove the lack of confidence that would be probable with the soldier sharing a foxhole with a homosexual.

23 posted on 12/18/2010 7:11:42 AM PST by Daryl L.Hunter
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To: The Wizard
being gay is no guarantee that someone isn’t lethal.

Jeffrey Dahmer, Andrew Cunanan, John Wayne Gacy, you bet they can be lethal.

24 posted on 12/18/2010 7:27:12 AM PST by Daryl L.Hunter
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To: piytar
Sorry, Marine should have been capitalized.

Yes, Marines should be capitalized as well as saluted, sorry for the oversight, I was working on this late into the night.

25 posted on 12/18/2010 7:32:13 AM PST by Daryl L.Hunter
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To: DuncanWaring
Those who are willing to play politics in an arena as important as the one that protects our country do so precisely because because it's the one that protects our country.

They want to destroy this country; make no mistake about that.

There is that aspect of it from the radical lib revolutionaries that are running things now but not necessarily of the rank and file libs that just are sympathetic to the homosexuals. Those are the ones that need to be convinced that unit cohesion is more important than political correctness!

26 posted on 12/18/2010 7:42:52 AM PST by Daryl L.Hunter
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To: raybbr
How about new uniforms???

Do you suppose the muslims would aim for them first :D

27 posted on 12/18/2010 7:46:27 AM PST by Daryl L.Hunter
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To: conservaterian
Nice article except for the “born that way” part. We get gays from liberal, perverted upbringings, most were probably molested to be brought into the fold. BUT, they can change if they want to, many have done so through our Lord Jesus Christ.

As with hermaphrodites, some humans aren't born with all they should have been.

28 posted on 12/18/2010 7:55:47 AM PST by Daryl L.Hunter
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To: Daryl L.Hunter
Nice article except for the “born that way” part. We get gays from liberal, perverted upbringings, most were probably molested to be brought into the fold. BUT, they can change if they want to, many have done so through our Lord Jesus Christ.
As with hermaphrodites, some humans aren't born with all they should have been.

That's been my take all along. I talked with one gay guy about that and he said, "We're made fun of, denigrated at every turn and sometimes beaten up and killed. Do you honest-to-God think anybody would willingly choose this lifestyle?"

While some may prefer to go that route, I think most have been dealt a bad hand by Mother Nature. I believe that many people who feel that way won't publicly say so because the militants would claim "handicapped" privileges.

29 posted on 12/18/2010 8:18:56 AM PST by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Daryl L.Hunter

those are generally dead before puberty.

it is a serious malformation that results in death. Surgical intervention is required. Even if they make it to 18, they would be medically unfit to serve.


30 posted on 12/18/2010 8:29:18 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
it (hermaphrodite) is a serious malformation that results in death. Surgical intervention is required. Even if they make it to 18, they would be medically unfit to serve.

My point is there are degrees of genetic abnormality, all the way from normal to hermaphrodite. Homosexuals are only halfway there.

31 posted on 12/18/2010 8:54:57 AM PST by Daryl L.Hunter
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To: Daryl L.Hunter

Right. But get a sense of humour. Pretty funny idea don’t you think?


32 posted on 12/18/2010 7:59:48 PM PST by Rippin
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