Posted on 12/18/2010 7:08:50 PM PST by Walter Scott Hudson
>>Screw ASKIE .... EBCDIC forever!<<
Now we’re talking! Anything that doesn’t sort numbers to the top in a descending sort is just wrong!
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Adolescent children check each other out without fully understanding why their doing it. I maintain that Quorra’s admiration was innocent. Consider the ending and how her focus was on the world she had transcended to. Kissing is PG, yet there was none.
How does that go too far? Science fiction is one of the most effective mediums for social commentary. Did you feel the same way about Avatar? Did that film have nothing to say about the real world?
Some would say that Cindy has aged better than TRON. In any case, she looks great.
“I was born to love you,
“I was born to lick your face,
“I was born to rub you
“But you were born to rub me first.”
I say it goes too far because nothing in the movie supports it. It is quite reasonable for programs (were they sentient as in the movie) to look to users as creators, hence as gods. It doesn’t make sense to suggest the movie claims that WE are programs ourselves created by a being as flawed as we are. The movie just doesn’t go there.
Certainly movies can be a vehicle to try and push a political or theological agenda, but sometimes they are not intended in that way at all and they are just trying to entertain the masses. I don’t see any reason to view Tron: Legacy as pushing a theological agenda. Yes, there is a religious component to the culture it takes place in, but that is not the same thing. It is a setting and culture completely separate from our own. Likewise, Lord of the Rings wasn’t trying to indoctrinate us into elven theology.
As for Avatar, I didn’t see it so I can’t comment.
Oh come on, you are trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole. Pre-pubecent kids do not check out members of the opposite sex the way she checked him out.
Given that this was the son of her mentor/god would make her reluctant to make a move on him if she felt so inclined, and Sam had a lot of other things on his mind.
Keep in mind that the portal only stays open for 8 hours of ‘Tron time’, and he was there a while before they even met. Most time people don’t go from their first Hello to making out or hooking up in a couple hours. Their relationship progressed in a normal and natural way given the short (and busy) time frame the events took place in.
On the other hand, after she comes to his bedroom and gives him the information about Zeus, it cuts to his driving to the city. Who knows what took place in between. There might be a missing scene as there was in the first movie!
Anyway, kind of a sad comment on society when people have to look for exceptional reasons to explain why they didn’t see the male and female leads in a movie didn’t hop in bed.
In other words, there is no such thing as allegory. In order for fiction to comment on matter of a religious nature, it must be explicit. That’s an odd view. But it’s yours to have.
So now you try to put words in my mouth instead of into the mouth of the writers of the movie?
Allegories exist when a writer writes one, not when you take a flying leap from what they wrote into your own ideas. If you want to project your own religious ideas onto the movie, fine, be my guest, but don’t go on pretending that those ideas are what the writers were trying to say to everybody unless you can point to something they actually wrote that supports the claim.
I see nothing ‘strange’ about Sam and Quorra not getting intimate over the short and very busy timeframe the film covers, it needs no special explanation or allegory to explain it. And if would take a lot more than that to convince me of the allegory than this lack of romantic expression between them.
In fact, given how often God compares his relationship with his people to the relationship between a husband and wife, the lack of romantic contact between them is CONTRARY to that supposed allegory.
An allegory is, by its very nature, ambiguous. So I’m not sure why you would expect it to be more explicit. To each their own.
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