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Pick your foreign policy expert: Palin or these creeps?
The North Star National ^ | December 21, 2010 | Dan Calabrese

Posted on 12/21/2010 5:33:52 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Senate Democrats have decided the way to muster public support for President Obama’s START treaty with the Russians is to present the issue as a choice between rational, experienced, calm foreign policy heads . . . and an airhead.

Specifically Sarah Palin, or at least the Saturday Night Live cartoon version of Sarah Palin.

On their web site, Senate Democrats pose the question thusly:

In supporting ratification of the New START Treaty, Democrats are siding with the cross-party consensus view of virtually the entire foreign policy establishment – including former President George H.W. Bush, Secretary of Defense Gates, Secretary of State Clinton, and the secretaries of state from the last five presidents. In opposing ratification, many Senate Republicans are siding with the position supported by… Sarah Palin. The individuals in the first group have over a century of foreign policy experience between them, and have worked closely on U.S.-Russia relations for decades. On the other hand, Palin can see Russia from her house. Apparently, that’s good enough for many Senate Republicans.

Of course, Sarah Palin never said “I can see Russia from my house.” That was from a Saturday Night Live sketch. But since when can Democrats tell the difference between truth and fiction?

Let’s consider some of the oh-so-respected establishment types to whom they want us to genuflect:

James Baker III and Brent Scowcroft? These two patron saints of the foreign policy “realist” set are bastards who were perfectly happy to let people die at the hands of brutal dictators in the name of global “stability.” Screw them. They are evil men.

George H.W. Bush may be a good man, but when he was making foreign policy, he serially took the advice of the aforementioned bastards.

Hillary Clinton? Do you need a reminder of who this woman really is?

Colin Powell? Hey, wait a minute . . . isn’t that the guy who was sent to the UN by George W. Bush to lie us into the Iraq War? Or so Senate Democrats have been telling us for the past eight years? But we’re supposed to listen to him now?

Appeals to the authority of the “establishment” are particularly amusing given the current political environment, but judging from the pork-laden spending monster Democrats tried to cram through last week, there’s little evidence they’ve caught wind of how the nation is feeling about things.

At any rate, this isn’t a hard decision: I’ll side with Sarah Palin (the real one, not the SNL version) and her reality-based notion of the real stakes on the issue of geopolitical influence and nuclear proliferation, as evidenced by her thoughtful piece today in USA Today on the threat posed by Iran.

Palin is a bright, knowledgeable source of information and insight on foreign policy. Anyone who doesn’t think so should become more familiar with her actual thinking, not just the pop culture notions about her.

And if you would side with monsters like James A. Baker III and Brent Scowcroft on just about anything, honestly, you really ought to go to hell.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: democrats; freepressforpalin; nucleardisarmament; nuclearweapons; obama; palin; sarahpalin; senate; start
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1 posted on 12/21/2010 5:33:55 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bolton.


2 posted on 12/21/2010 5:38:06 PM PST by Ev Reeman
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sarah Palin’s top foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, whom she inherited from John Judas McCain, is a Washington, DC lobbyist who has been, and still is, as far as I’ve been able to discern, on George Soros’ payroll.


3 posted on 12/21/2010 5:40:20 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We have no choice but to rebuild America from the foundations up. www.AIPNews.com)
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To: EternalVigilance; onyx; Josh Painter
"Sarah Palin’s top foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, whom she inherited from John Judas McCain, is a Washington, DC lobbyist who has been, and still is, as far as I’ve been able to discern, on George Soros’ payroll."

Oh cripes. We went over all that a month ago when it came out! KEEP UP!!

4 posted on 12/21/2010 5:45:21 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body." CS Lewis)
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To: stefanbatory; fideist; Spunky; arbee4bush; imfrmdixie; Ben Reyes; Lily4Jesus; PROCON; mandaladon; ..

5 posted on 12/21/2010 5:45:34 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: EternalVigilance
as far as I’ve been able to discern

Alan Keyes read that Salon article too, I see.

6 posted on 12/21/2010 5:45:43 PM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: onyx

Yep, that’s about all we have to look forward to after this week.


7 posted on 12/21/2010 5:48:38 PM PST by The Cajun
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To: ansel12

You’re a freak, troll. I’m not Alan Keyes.


8 posted on 12/21/2010 5:48:47 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We have no choice but to rebuild America from the foundations up. www.AIPNews.com)
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To: shilo2005

9 posted on 12/21/2010 5:49:34 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: EternalVigilance

Man, what is it with you and the personal attacks when you troll on the Palin threads, what caused that nasty outburst?

I never said you were Alan Keyes, I only said that I see that he has read that Salon article too, you know that is true.


10 posted on 12/21/2010 5:51:32 PM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh cripes. We went over all that a month ago when it came out! KEEP UP!!

Hmmm...if I want to be informed I'm supposed to follow all your pro-Palin posts?

Or maybe, I should simply believe the public record, which clearly shows Scheunemann taking Soros' money to lobby on his behalf.

11 posted on 12/21/2010 5:53:02 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We have no choice but to rebuild America from the foundations up. www.AIPNews.com)
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To: ansel12

I have no idea if he’s read the story.

Do you deny that Scheunemann takes money from Soros?


12 posted on 12/21/2010 5:54:14 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We have no choice but to rebuild America from the foundations up. www.AIPNews.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
At any rate, this isn’t a hard decision: I’ll side with Sarah Palin (the real one, not the SNL version) and her reality-based notion of the real stakes on the issue of geopolitical influence and nuclear proliferation,
as evidenced by her thoughtful piece today in USA Today on the threat posed by Iran.

HE'S RIGHT! READ IT!

GO SARAH!


13 posted on 12/21/2010 5:57:41 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: EternalVigilance

As Alan Keyes Party Chairman, and his chief cult leader, you know very well everything that he does, especially his anti-Palin articles. and goofy conspiracy theories and attacks.

“Keyes blasts Sarah Palin on Soros ties”
Citing Salon’s reporting, Alan Keyes questions whether a link to George Soros undermines Palin’s credibility

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/11/19/keyes_hits_palin_on_soros_ties/index.html


14 posted on 12/21/2010 5:59:08 PM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: ansel12

Good one!


15 posted on 12/21/2010 6:01:46 PM PST by doc1019 (Martyrdom is a great thing, until it is your turn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; EternalVigilance

I am not interested in diverting the subject of this thread. That lame charge was refuted within one day. Sheesh.


16 posted on 12/21/2010 6:03:07 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: EternalVigilance

I was always waiting on an answer about that. We never had one.

It is important. An official remark on that could clear a lot of doubt.


17 posted on 12/21/2010 6:03:30 PM PST by dforest
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To: indylindy

It’s public information.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/42113863/094Q

That’s just one small payment out of many. Dig around, you’ll find lots more. The Soros Left kept McCain’s top people going financially when everybody was writing McCain’s presidential candidacy off because the campaign was broke.


18 posted on 12/21/2010 6:08:40 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We have no choice but to rebuild America from the foundations up. www.AIPNews.com)
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To: EternalVigilance; onyx
If you think most of my posts on Governor Palin are written with a pro-Palin stance by the MSM, you haven't read many of them. Besides NewsMax, WorldNetDaily, Canada Free Press, a small portion of the Wall Street Journal articles and a few others, almost all my threads are anti-Palin or somewhat neutral. I post them to show the folks what the press is talking about. If I just posted pro-Palin threads, I might do 2-3 a week.
19 posted on 12/21/2010 6:08:48 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body." CS Lewis)
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To: onyx

It’s not “lame.” It’s a fact.


20 posted on 12/21/2010 6:09:29 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We have no choice but to rebuild America from the foundations up. www.AIPNews.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, I’m sorry. I’ve never found it needful to follow all of your posts, pro or con. I don’t know why you would expect me to.

But the fact that this guy has taken large amounts of money from Soros is beyond dispute. It’s in the public record.


21 posted on 12/21/2010 6:11:43 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We have no choice but to rebuild America from the foundations up. www.AIPNews.com)
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To: EternalVigilance

“Sarah Palin’s top foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, whom she inherited from John Judas McCain, is a Washington, DC lobbyist who has been, and still is, as far as I’ve been able to discern, on George Soros’ payroll.”

Did Arianna Huffinstuff give you that inside info, or was it the Tinkers to Evers to Chance theory of historical connections (they concocted the Bush Inherited Wealth directly from Hitler Campaign) or the Six degrees of Kevin Bacon logistical analysis department?

That is the thinnest gruel served since David Copperfield was a boy.


22 posted on 12/21/2010 6:13:24 PM PST by jessduntno ("'How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler)
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To: EternalVigilance
Make an unsupported statement...

Sarah Palin’s top foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann,

Then shift the burden of proof.

Do you deny that Scheunemann takes money from Soros?

Prove that Scheunemann takes takes money from Palin.

23 posted on 12/21/2010 6:13:43 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: EternalVigilance

Well that would explain how a broke and out McCain ended up with the nomination.

He was paid to lose. He did a bang up job of it too.


24 posted on 12/21/2010 6:14:15 PM PST by dforest
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To: indylindy
It is important.

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25 posted on 12/21/2010 6:16:24 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: EternalVigilance
Or maybe, I should simply believe the public record, which clearly shows Scheunemann taking Soros' money to lobby on his behalf.

A complete and disingenuous mischaracterization...the firm is lobbying to support democracy in Burma. You got a problem with THAT?

26 posted on 12/21/2010 6:16:31 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: EternalVigilance

So Randy’s group did work for ‘a’ group own by Soros trying to oust a dictator or some type of military regime in a African country......so what does this have to do with Sarah being right on the START treaty being wrong or that Iran is a real threat or that China is flexing it’s muscles?


27 posted on 12/21/2010 6:19:29 PM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: death2tyrants

That crap doesn’t work on me. I remember those threads and had forgotten it until now.

I remember thinking I would wait before putting much credence to it until someone spoke out about it.

Who people associate with does mean something. Of course, I don’t know yet who the other potential candidates associate with either.

If you want to ignore those things, then fine. Suit yourself.


28 posted on 12/21/2010 6:21:52 PM PST by dforest
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To: death2tyrants

That crap doesn’t work on me. I remember those threads and had forgotten it until now.

I remember thinking I would wait before putting much credence to it until someone spoke out about it.

Who people associate with does mean something. Of course, I don’t know yet who the other potential candidates associate with either.

If you want to ignore those things, then fine. Suit yourself.


29 posted on 12/21/2010 6:24:22 PM PST by dforest
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To: indylindy
Who people associate with does mean something.

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30 posted on 12/21/2010 6:24:38 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: EternalVigilance

Yes, I know you’re busy running Alan Keyes campaign and selling HerbaLife, or some such.


31 posted on 12/21/2010 6:25:07 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet ("You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body." CS Lewis)
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To: death2tyrants

I am no troll and I am not concerned yet because Palin is not yet a candidate. But then neither is anyone else.


32 posted on 12/21/2010 6:26:27 PM PST by dforest
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You should be ashamed of yourself for that post.


33 posted on 12/21/2010 6:35:27 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We have no choice but to rebuild America from the foundations up. www.AIPNews.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; onyx

I’ll stand by Sarah anytime on these issues and to Hell with the ‘establishment’.
The establishment is the problem. Throw out of power those out of touch powerbrokers that think they can rule. Even if it is from behind the scenes. Slimy, corrupt bastards.


34 posted on 12/21/2010 6:37:14 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward with Confidence!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It is creepy when the troll is an actual third party chairman working for his candidate by trolling on other real life, grown-up candidate’s threads, isn’t it.


35 posted on 12/21/2010 6:40:50 PM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
You got a problem with THAT?

I have a problem with the fact that McCain's top people, including the gentleman in question here, took money from Soros, and Teresa Heinz Kerry, et al.

Meet the open borders family: McCain, Hernandez, Soros, and the “Reform Institute” - Michelle Malkin

36 posted on 12/21/2010 6:49:27 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We have no choice but to rebuild America from the foundations up. www.AIPNews.com)
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To: EternalVigilance
I have a problem with the fact that McCain's top people, including the gentleman in question here, took money from Soros, and Teresa Heinz Kerry, et

The thread isn't about Scheunemann.

37 posted on 12/21/2010 7:13:36 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: EternalVigilance
Blah, blah, blah...the fact of the matter is that Soros has his billions spread so far across the country that anyone in the political consulting business would be hard-pressed to avoid it.

And do you really believe that Sarah Palin can be subverted by George Soros? Give me a friggin' break!

38 posted on 12/21/2010 7:15:11 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
And do you really believe that Sarah Palin can be subverted by George Soros? Give me a friggin' break!

I think Governor Palin already had problems when it comes to foreign policy before ever met Scheunemann.

September 13, 2007 Governor Palin letter in support of the Law of the Sea Treaty

39 posted on 12/21/2010 7:47:13 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We have no choice but to rebuild America from the foundations up. www.AIPNews.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And if you would side with monsters like James A. Baker III and Brent Scowcroft on just about anything, honestly, you really ought to go to hell.

And I'll volunteer to pack your bags!

40 posted on 12/21/2010 8:03:30 PM PST by JaguarXKE (Life - It's 10 percent circumstances and 90 percent how you react to circumstances - Sarah Palin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Sarah Palin were campaigning for President, she probably would not have made the centerpiece of that campaign a cockamamie plan to divide Iraq into three autonomous regions.

Sarah Palin probably would not have told General Petraeus that he was “dead flat wrong” on the surge.

Sarah Palin probably would not have voted against the first Gulf War.

Sarah Palin probably would not have opposed the United States designation of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards as a terrorist organization.

Sarah Palin probably would not have told top Israeli officials, as reported in the Israeli press, that Israel would just have to learn to live with a nuclear-armed Iran.

Sarah Palin probably would not have assumed that the answer to failed diplomatic negotiations with Iran was more diplomatic negotiations with Iran.

The word “probably” must be used because we can only speculate on the basis of her barracuda-like instincts.

But there is one thing of which we can be sure: If Sarah Palin had been in the Senate in 1973, she would not have been one of the five Senators opposing the Alaska Pipeline Bill.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2073523/posts


41 posted on 12/21/2010 8:11:22 PM PST by anglian
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To: Ev Reeman; All

“Bolton.”

You might think that Bolton wrote this:

“Senate Republicans: Vote No on New START

December 17, 2010 12:13 P.M. By Sarah Palin

The proposed New START agreement should be evaluated by the only criteria that matters for a treaty: Is it in America’s interest? I am convinced this treaty is not. It should not be rammed through in the lame duck session using behind the scenes deal-making reminiscent of the tactics used in the health care debate.

New START actually requires the U.S. to reduce our nuclear weapons and allows the Russians to increase theirs. This is one-sided and makes no strategic sense. New START’s verification regime is weaker than the treaty it replaces, making it harder for us to detect Russian cheating. Since we now know Russia has not complied with many arms control agreements currently in force, this is a serious matter.

New START recognizes a link between offensive and defensive weapons – a position the Russians have sought for years. Russia claims the treaty constrains U.S. missile defenses and that they will withdraw from the treaty if we pursue missile defenses. This linkage virtually guarantees that either we limit our missile defenses or the Russians will withdraw from the treaty. The Obama administration claims that this is not the case; but if that is true, why agree to linking offensive and defensive weapons in the treaty? At the height of the Cold War, President Reagan pursued missile defense while also pursuing verifiable arms control with the then-Soviet Union. That position was right in the 1980’s, and it is still right today. We cannot and must not give up the right to missile defense to protect our population – whether the missiles that threaten us come from Russia, Iran, China, North Korea, or anywhere else. I fought the Obama administration’s plans to cut funds for missile defense in Alaska while I was Governor, and I will continue to speak out for missile defenses that will protect our people and our allies.”

more http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/255568/senate-republicans-vote-no-new-start-sarah-palin?sms_ss=twitter&at_xt=4d0c591019d7208e,0


42 posted on 12/21/2010 8:15:40 PM PST by Sun (Pray that God sends us good leaders. Please say a prayer now.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Nice try, but you're still off base...

Without ratifying the LOST treaty -- there is no assurance from administration to administration that oil & gas resources off Alaska would be protected for U.S. development until we got the insane enviromarxist influence out of our system and got serious about development. This is the problem Governor Palin addressed in taking the position she did. There's enough oil & gas up there to guarantee our energy independence and she wants the problem resolved. Her position (as governor) was that ratifying the treaty would reserve those resources for Alaska and the U.S., a perfectly reasonable position to take as governor. To blast her as some kind of RINO because she wanted this guarantee for the U.S. as governor is demagoguery of the worst order.

43 posted on 12/21/2010 8:21:42 PM PST by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Ev Reeman

John Bolton would be in a dead heat with Sarah on foreign policy IMO. They each have an advantage over the other: Bolton has had more experience; Sarah has more common sense. However, Bolton wasn’t one of the choices.


44 posted on 12/21/2010 9:55:47 PM PST by Humal
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

You’re defending LOST, on America’s premiere conservative website?

What a contorted load of nonsense.

Sorry, but the financial interests of one state are not worth giving unelected UN bureaucrats control over a majority of the earth’s surface, along with its resources, or for the first time giving taxing authority to that awful body of tinpot despots.

Ronald Reagan killed this monster, and it must stay dead.

It makes me sick that for the sake of some political figure people who call themselves conservative will gladly go along with the destruction of our national sovereignty.


45 posted on 12/21/2010 9:58:33 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We have no choice but to rebuild America from the foundations up. www.AIPNews.com)
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To: EternalVigilance
Sarah Palin’s top foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann,...

You must have that in a macro. I am getting tired of seeing it every time I click on a Palin thread. Want to come up with something new?

46 posted on 12/22/2010 1:55:37 PM PST by mc5cents (Government doesn't solve problems, it subsidizes them. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: mc5cents

The subject of the thread is how awesome Palin is on foreign policy. Sorry, but that’s not a “gimme” sort of issue. It’s life and death for our young men and women, for our republic, and for our friends and allies around the world.

Do you support the Law of the Sea Treaty?


47 posted on 12/22/2010 2:03:48 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We have no choice but to rebuild America from the foundations up. www.AIPNews.com)
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To: EternalVigilance
Do you support the Law of the Sea Treaty?

Not just no, but hell no. Why do you ask? What does that have to do with anything? Are you going to tell me that Sarah supports it?

48 posted on 12/22/2010 2:35:32 PM PST by mc5cents (Government doesn't solve problems, it subsidizes them. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: mc5cents
Not just no, but hell no. Why do you ask? What does that have to do with anything? Are you going to tell me that Sarah supports it?

On her official letterhead, with her signature at the bottom.

49 posted on 12/22/2010 2:39:35 PM PST by EternalVigilance (We have no choice but to rebuild America from the foundations up. www.AIPNews.com)
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To: EternalVigilance

> “Sarah Palin’s top foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, whom she inherited from John Judas McCain, is a Washington, DC lobbyist who has been, and still is, as far as I’ve been able to discern, on George Soros’ payroll.”

.
Sarah Palin’s top foreign policy advisor is Sarah Palin.

Whose payroll are you on troll?
.


50 posted on 12/22/2010 3:21:29 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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