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The Mild, Mild West
Accuracy in Academia ^ | December 22, 2010 | Malcolm A. Kline

Posted on 12/22/2010 12:55:23 PM PST by Academiadotorg

It turns out that John Wayne movies might be more accurate than American history textbooks. “In contrast, an alternative literature based on actual history concludes that the civil society of the American West in the nineteenth century was not very violent,” economist Thomas J. DiLorenzo writes in The Independent Review.

DiLorenzo teaches at Loyola University in Maryland. He notes that, at least for the first half of the nineteenth century, “private protective agencies,” rather than government ones, maintained order. “What were these private protective agencies?” he writes. “They were not governments because they did not have a legal monopoly on keeping order.”

“Instead, they included such organizations as land clubs, cattlemen’s associations, mining camps, and wagon trains.” It was when the federal government got proactive after the Civil War that problems, even calamities, ensued, particularly in dealings between Americans and Native Americans.

Before Fort Sumter, when Americans wanted land from Indians, they bought it. “By the twentieth century, some $800 million had been paid for Indian lands,” DiLorenzo notes. After Appomatox, the federales decided that land acquisition could be accomplished more cheaply through raids rather than trades. “Congress even voted in 1871 not to ratify any more Indian treaties, effectively announcing that it no longer sought peaceful relations with the Plains Indians,” DiLorenzo notes.

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; Education; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: indians; kkk; klan; treaties; wildwest

1 posted on 12/22/2010 12:55:25 PM PST by Academiadotorg
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To: Academiadotorg
It turns out that John Wayne movies may be more accurate than American History textbooks.

That would explain this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2646278/posts

(McClintock Offers History Lesson).

2 posted on 12/22/2010 1:13:36 PM PST by sportutegrl (Possibly the most politically incorrect movie of all time.)
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To: Academiadotorg
Johnson County War

The Johnson County War with its overtones of class warfare and intervention of the President of the United States to save the lives of a gang of hired killers and set them free, does not fit well with the American myth of the west.

3 posted on 12/22/2010 1:16:41 PM PST by Milhous (Lev 19:18 Love your neighbor as yourself.)
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To: Academiadotorg

3-7-77


4 posted on 12/22/2010 1:28:44 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Academiadotorg
Before Fort Sumter, when Americans wanted land from Indians, they bought it.

Is there anyone who is actually ignorant enough of history to believe this?

5 posted on 12/22/2010 1:31:14 PM PST by iowamark
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To: iowamark
My family went West in the 1840’s, I don't.
6 posted on 12/22/2010 1:39:29 PM PST by Little Bill (Harry Browne is a Poofter.)
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To: Milhous

I`d always thought Tom Horn was in on this war

Didn`t know they even lynched a woman trying to take over the range land


7 posted on 12/22/2010 1:44:37 PM PST by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: Academiadotorg
Before Fort Sumter, when Americans wanted land from Indians, they bought it.

The author doesn't seem to have heard of the Trail of Tears.

8 posted on 12/22/2010 1:50:17 PM PST by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: Academiadotorg

It is aggravating when all sides in a historical “debate” foul things up so terribly.

To start with, by far the most aggressive action every taken by the US against the Indians was done by Andrew Jackson (D).

“Indian removal was a policy to relocate Native American tribes living east of the Mississippi River to lands west of the river. The Indian Removal Act was signed into law by President Andrew Jackson on May 26, 1830.”

When the Civil War came around, and the Union Army was pulled out of the western territories, the Indians saw it as a sign that they could do whatever they wanted, which meant raids, homicide, and theft on a grand scale.

Which is why when the Civil War ended, the Union Army headed West, to *stop* the Indians from this campaign of rapine. Generals Philip Sheridan (PBUH) and W.T. Sherman (PBUH) had no sense of humor about these things.

Typically, the Indians would raid in spring and summer, then go into winter camps. During winter, as far as *they* were concerned, they were peaceful, and “minding their own business”. The white man, however, did not have such a short memory. And they also had the ability to conduct winter military operations.

But even pointing this out is unfair, as most of the military leaders in the West went to great lengths to *not* be belligerent to the Indians, in fact, often acting as peacekeepers between hostile Indian tribes.

Washington, D.C., however, had its own ideas, and would have been more than happy to have seen the Indians wiped out. And it was the US military that usually stood in the way of such barbarity.

Indeed, parts of western history are filled with violence, but other parts are indeed peaceful, with the great desire of frontier people to again have civility and prosperity.


9 posted on 12/22/2010 1:59:06 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: iowamark

Actually, they did buy it.

The West was quite mild. Everyone was busy trying to make a buck and sometimes survival was pretty tough.

The Wild, Wild West was constructed by Eastern journalists to make larger sales of their newpapers. Most of them were good fiction writers, but pretty bad journalists. Sound familiar?

You have to read the books written by explorers, Kit Carson, Jim Bridger and others (General Custer)to get a real sense of the west. Basically farmers, ranchers and shopkeepers tending to their businesses.


10 posted on 12/22/2010 1:59:06 PM PST by texmexis best (`)
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To: texmexis best

How much did do you think that we paid the Indians for the eastern US, Florida, the Louisiana Purchase, the Mexican Cession, respectively? What did the Indians do with the money?


11 posted on 12/22/2010 2:05:19 PM PST by iowamark
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To: 3niner

As a Pennsylvania resident, the Quakers always purchased the land they wanted from the local tribes. Of course, when there was a problem they relied on the Scots-Irish immigrants to fight for them, as they were too “peace-loving” to get their hands dirty.


12 posted on 12/22/2010 2:34:59 PM PST by Amberdawn
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To: Academiadotorg

An armed society is a polite society.


13 posted on 12/22/2010 3:10:46 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: rockrr; Colonel Kangaroo; Bubba Ho-Tep
DiLorenzo happens.

Is he the most aggressively moronic man in America?

14 posted on 12/22/2010 3:30:56 PM PST by x
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To: x
Is he the most aggressively moronic man in America?

I don't know about that. My brother in law would give him a good run. I'll give him credit, though, for never letting facts get in the way of his agenda.

For entertainment sometime, look up what his students say about him on ratemyprofessors.com. "Simply the man, easy papers and gives everyone an A. I went to less than half of the classes and still breezed by! "

15 posted on 12/22/2010 3:47:55 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: iowamark
"Before Fort Sumter, when Americans wanted land from Indians, they bought it."

tell it to the Cherokee, Choctaw and Seminole who walked the trail of tears

16 posted on 12/22/2010 5:31:06 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: x; Academiadotorg

This is more of DiLorenzo’s usual KKK propaganda about how evil the US is since 1861, how great slavery was, how the Confederates should have won the war, etc.

Malcolm Kline and AIA discredit themselves with this filth.


17 posted on 12/22/2010 6:47:46 PM PST by iowamark
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