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The Cross is Banned in Bethlehem
bigpeace.com ^ | 12/24/2010 | Peter Schweizer

Posted on 12/24/2010 8:04:43 AM PST by massmike

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To: Daveinyork

What a shame. I have several beautiful crosses I bought in Bethlehem over 40 years ago.

Merry Christmas and God Bless our troops everywhere.


21 posted on 12/24/2010 12:44:21 PM PST by Alice_Anne
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To: bsaunders

I understand that it is all women, Jewish as well. Doubly disturbing. I suppose the similarities between Islams hatred of women and the same thing in other religions disturbs me most of all.
Why is it women who remain the targets of such religious discrimination? I cannot speak for Mormons, but I have NEVER heard of a Catholic church that separates the sexes- and I go to the Latin mass!
The hatred of the cross is logical since Islam is Satan worship, but I wish the Jewish people would see it as a weapon against our common enemies.


22 posted on 12/24/2010 12:57:12 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: shalom aleichem

Israel govt could solve their terrorism problems by ejecting all Muslims.
Not like its the Jews blowing up babies, children, women, etc. over there.

But the Israel govt seems 95 pct “P.C.” (Liberal) which is why it lets its citizens keep dying from their 5th Column.


23 posted on 12/24/2010 1:13:17 PM PST by OldArmy52 (Obama & the "Dem Party" have proved America is ready for Fascism/Socialism.)
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To: SamuraiScot

Thank you for writng this. Arab Christians are dhimiis for the most part. They enjoy their tenth rate citizenship under the Moslems and seem to blame the Jews for their problems! Unbelieveable! And unfortunately, the current Pope seems to see it that way also. Very sad.


24 posted on 12/24/2010 1:45:07 PM PST by juliej
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To: SamuraiScot

“Unidentified assailants” a/k/a radical Moslems. And yet, some people will blame the Jews for this. I am waiting for Pat Buchanan to once again blame the Jews. He has a soft spot for jihadists because they kill, while Jews do not. There are a lot of sick people out there who need a history lesson.


25 posted on 12/24/2010 1:49:41 PM PST by juliej
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To: ClearBlueSky

It is Moslems who are driving Christians out of the Middle East and that includes Egypt. I have meet Coptic Christians here who of course, are very pro America and pro Israel. Yet in Egypt, the Coptic Pope has banned Christians from visiting Israel, calling Jews “Christ killers”. When I confront American Copts about this, they say that their Pope “is afraid”. The truth demands that he speak out and say exactly who is persecuting Middle East Christians. Hint: they belong to the Religion of Peace.


26 posted on 12/24/2010 1:52:40 PM PST by juliej
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To: OldArmy52

according to CIA factbook at cia.gov the religions break down like this:

Jewish 75.5%, Muslim 16.8%, Christian 2.1%, Druze 1.7%, other 3.9% (2008)

Another case of the tail wagging the dog. (I really thought there were more Christians than this)

Like Kenya is highly Christian but Obama as Senator in 2007 went over there and forced a “power sharing” arrangement with the duly elected government and had leader agree to instituted Sharia law in certain areas. Last year he sent Biden over there to force an abortion provision into their constitution. Tell me he is not a Muslim-symp


27 posted on 12/24/2010 2:22:17 PM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: shalom aleichem

Are those the stats for Israel? If so, why is the 75% not in more control? I understand that Israel is surrounded by enemies, so the 5th column inside Israel is tolerated out of fear. What I struggle to understand is how some ultra-orthodox Jews are as anti-Christian as they are Muslims. I’ve heard of people being spit on by Hassidic Jews in Israel. How to make sense of all of this, as a Christian supporter of Israel?
Bottom line is the fear. Antagonize Christians- safe. Defy Muslims-violence.
And above all the irony of such contention, still, in the very place where Jesus was born.


28 posted on 12/24/2010 2:59:55 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Yes, Israel @ 2008. The latest in CIA fact book
I do not see anti-Christian sentiment in Israel (except from some, not many, Muslims) - too much tourism from pilgrimages. But if you walk along the wall in Jerusalem you’ll catch some rocks from the Muslim kids.

However the main Christian body they defer to is Greek Orthodox. Catholics create their own turf battles.

As to Knesset - it was a miracle that Benyamim Netanyahu returned to power. He is probably the only person who will fight to save Israel. The rest are weak. Similar to craven RINOs and sell-out Dems back here.


29 posted on 12/24/2010 4:30:21 PM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: ClearBlueSky

On your Why isn’t 75% more in control? OK Gays comprise, what? 1-5%, Muslims are also a small minority in USA. Yet, they have “hate crimes” backed up by Holder to keep Whitey Christians in their place.


30 posted on 12/24/2010 4:35:35 PM PST by shalom aleichem
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To: massmike

I can’t help but think some sort of spiritual threshold has been crossed.


31 posted on 12/24/2010 5:42:15 PM PST by Kevmo (Turning the Party over to the so-called moderates wouldn't make any sense at all. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: ClearBlueSky

Wrong about the Western Wall....women are allowed at the side reserved for WOMEN.....Orthodox Jews do not have mixed worship.


32 posted on 12/24/2010 7:57:58 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: shalom aleichem

Thank you for your patience and information.
Shalom!


33 posted on 12/24/2010 8:26:37 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: shalom aleichem

Point taken and understood. Minority pressure is that much more dangerous when violence is a given. Thank you for helping clarify things I’ve been concerned about.
Shalom!


34 posted on 12/24/2010 8:28:39 PM PST by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: bsaunders; ClearBlueSky; Daveinyork
I am not saying they are right, but I have seen some Catholic Churches and Mormon Churches that have separate women’s’ sections.

There used to be separation of the genders in Basque Catholic churches - it was a local custom. For centuries, women were required to cover their heads if they entered Catholic churches. This was phased out during the 1960s.

All shrines have their rules, which sometimes are important to maintain tradition. There are fairly rigid rules in the holy places in Jerusalem, which reflects the overall situation. No prayer services of any sort, other than Islamic, are allowed at the Dome of the Rock. Likewise, only Orthodox Judaism may be practiced at the Western Wall, and particular Christian rites are segregated to various areas of the Church of the Holy Sepulcre. A Muslim who went in there and unrolled his prayer rug, would be immediately thrown out.

The segregation of genders in Judaism might look wrong to an outsider, but it is of value in their culture. It is helpful to consider that in a Catholic or Orthodox church, a non-ordained person has no right to enter the sanctuary around the altar. This is a sacred space.

35 posted on 12/26/2010 9:18:38 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: massmike
Some textile workshops in Jerusalem and Hebron have begun to print and sell T-shirts depicting the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem without the cross.

Who owns these fabric factories, and what market are they selling to? The Cross is not banned - in Jordan - one can buy crosses everywhere, many of them are made on the West Bank.

36 posted on 12/26/2010 9:21:24 PM PST by BlackVeil
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