Skip to comments.Krauthammer: 'People Are Talking about American Decline – Don't Believe a Word of It'
Posted on 12/24/2010 2:58:30 PM PST by Nachum
Over the last few years, with an economy in decline and the rise of certain developing nations, there have been murmurs of the end of American exceptionalism throughout the media.
Dont believe a word of it, says syndicated columnist and Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer.
On the Christmas Eve edition of Fox News Channels Happening Now, Krauthammer was asked to reflect on the last two years. He explained there was similar rhetoric about the nations decline at the end of the 1970s.
Well, I think this is mostly a reflection of the recession, Krauthammer said. The mood of the country going back 20, 30, 40 years, almost always reflects the state of the economy. The late 70s was a period of malaise. People were saying oh, the American era is over. The big dictatorships in the world are going to dominate us. That was a reflection of the terrible economic conditions, the stagnation and the inflation late 70s.
With the 1980s, however, the economy came back and the calls of the end of the so-called Pax Americana went by the wayside. He predicted the same would happen this time around.
When the economy recovered in the 80s there was a morning in America, he continued. So I would not over-read the move. People are talking about American decline dont believe a word of it.
(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...
It didn’t just happen, it took getting rid of Carter and a new vision.
Maybe he’s angling to become the NYTimes’ resident “conservative.”
Kraut has soured. What a fool. Then again, nothing really surprising these past few days, he has always been a liberino.
What are we #1 in making any more?
Weapons, I assume.
Aircraft, if Boeing can ever deliver the dream-liner.
Farm equipment (Caterpillar and Deere).
Higher education, I suppose. The lead we had is too great to completely lose overnight.
Finance? not any more.
Software? moving offshore.
Fiat money, unfortunately.
We’re not economically dead, but we are in serious trouble.
The late 70s was a period of malaise. People were saying oh, the American era is over. The big dictatorships in the world are going to dominate us. That was a reflection of the terrible economic conditions, the stagnation and the inflation late 70s
Anyone know how to get Krauthammer a message from a citizen of the UNITED STATES of America? Does he take input from the average citizen or is he in a world closed to us average citizens?
Well, this week we can now add military decline to economic decline, cultural decline and moral decline.
Hey SOUR kraut... please pick up the red phone... obama needs his ass kissed today.
On the other hand: ordinary Americans, very much including new and/or young entrepreneurs, have been very good at pulling the fat out of the national fire. This mitigative countering makes anti-declinism the way to bet, once different hands take the D.C. tiller.
One of the reasons why Atlas Shrugged is so popular is because it captures the essence of this struggle. If there were a real-life John Galt, he or she could push the U.S. over the edge in times like these.
Charles has descended into dementia.
I don’t wish to hear anymore from him.
“What are we #1 in making any more?”
“...the repeal represents the taming of the most conservative of the nation’s institutions, the military, by a movement historically among the most avant-garde.”
Why is Kraut talking so breathlessly about such a thing? Did someone forget to hand him his conservative script this week? He sounds like Tingles Matthews for the love of Pete (pun intended). Charles better get back to running his old schtick pretty soon or he’ll be thrown onto the heap with other “conservatives” like Kathleen Parker.
He has an e-mail link at Townhall.com.
And btw, you obviously have not a clue as to the meaning of "American exceptionalism." Like most ignorant liberals, you fail to grasp what it is that does in fact make America exceptional in all the world, even at this late date.
What a disappointment.
Is he paralyzed from the neck down? He never moves and is always in the same identical position while gasping for air like Christopher Reeves always did? But he is sounding more and more like he is on Obama Koolaid!
> What are we #1 in making any more?
I also would add:
1. Agriculture (food)
2. Information Technology (computers, software, telecom)
5. Health care (surgical tools and techniques, equipment, etc.)
6. I believe US is the world’s most efficient manufacturer
7. Financial services
Probably much more that I can not recall at this time.
Don't forget TRUCKS and network-computing software of every sort. The actual EQUIPMENT is made in Asia.
The downsizing that is taking place now should have began happening in 2000 when it was obvious that the manufacturing sector was shifting. I do think that we aren’t headed to third world status yet but normal is gone for good (and for bad).
The economy will rebound hopefully with more efficient government, and a more vibrant economy, but unlike the early ‘80’s is there are no niche industries (auto industry, paper, rubber, airlines, etc.) to bail us out.
LOL! We have better money printing presses than anyone. The Germans could do better, but apparently they remember Weimar and have backed away from the edge, thinking their is some virtue in sound money, which used to be a conservative principle, but certainly not one much followed by the subscribers to this forum.
As for manufacture, we long ago lost it. Their are few companies that combine design and quality production anymore. Apple is one, but they don't manufacture in the US.
Only for offshore applications. To operate in America as a software developer, you MUST be atuned to American customs and preferably IN America.
Signed, 22 year developer veteran.
“6. I believe US is the worlds most efficient manufacturer”
That is hard to accept considering our huge trade deficit.
2. Information Technology (computers, software, telecom) — Rapidly moving or moved overseas! Software, hardware, everything.
Sorry, but your optimism is unconvincing to me. We’re not dead yet, but we are in trouble. Congress for many years has slavishly done the bidding of multinational corporations who favor off-shoring at the expense of highly paid American workers. It’s not inevitable, as Germany as proved. But our government has unfortunately been disloyal to its own citizens.
> LOL! We have better money printing presses than anyone. The Germans could do better, but apparently they remember Weimar and have backed away from the edge, thinking their is some virtue in sound money, which used to be a conservative principle, but certainly not one much followed by the subscribers to this forum.
I believe you are referring to the government. That has nothing at all in common with financial services, which are delivered by private entities.
Regarding US manufacturing:
1. Change in manufacturing output: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/prod4.t01.htm
2. Top 12 manufacturing countries: http://investing.curiouscatblog.net/2008/09/23/top-manufacturing-countries-in-2007/
While you may chose to believe any thing you like, actual statistics do not support your view.
You can’t live in the D.C. area and not become a swamp monster. Very few can live there and remain “normal”.
> 6. I believe US is the worlds most efficient manufacturer
In the previous post, i have provided 2 links that not only support this statement but also demonstrate it to be too pessimistic - US is not only the world’s most efficient manufacturer, we also are the world’s largest.
> 2. Information Technology (computers, software, telecom) Rapidly moving or moved overseas! Software, hardware, everything.
Low cost, low productivity, low expertise, low paying functions are moving over seas. High margin, high paying jobs are staying right here and more are being created every day. Until Obama introduced his very special anti-Midas touch to the economy, unemployment was at 6% (or less). And it will be there again once the Obama economy is done.
Making burgers at McDonald’s is considered mfg work to the BLS.
“Low cost, low productivity, low expertise, low paying functions are moving over seas. High margin, high paying jobs are staying right here and more are being created every day.”
You’re talking about an industry in which I have worked for over 30 years, and I know personally that you are completely mistaken. My own employer no longer hires software developers and data base administrators in the USA, just in other countries. Maybe that will change after the dollar collapses further, but that’s where we are now.
I wonder what else you are completely wrong about?
Krauthammer thinks happy days are around the corner all because we get to keep our puny tax cut.
Charles Krauthammer is a complete and utter idiot.
It is so nice to see that there are so-called adults who still believe in Santa Claus. Touching really.
No it isn't.
I agree...I’m always suspect of former high profile Democrats, like Charles and Michael Medved. I knew I was a conservative at age 18, the minute I stepped on an ultra liberal college campus.
just more evidence that CK is a neocon. CK needs to leave the room.
I guess somebody needs to investigate the BLS and see what happened. With the corruption going on in D.C. I wouldn't be surprised if this didn't slip under the radar.
The America of my time line is a laboratory example of what can happen to democracies, what has eventually happened to all perfect democracies throughout all histories. A perfect democracy, a warm body democracy in which every adult may vote and all votes count equally, has no internal feedback for self-correction . [O]nce a state extends the franchise to every warm body, be he producer or parasite, that day marks the beginning of the end of the state. For when the plebs discover that they can vote themselves bread and circuses without limit and that the productive members of the body politic cannot stop them, they will do so, until the state bleeds to death, or in its weakened condition the state succumbs to an invader the barbarians enter Rome.
Nothing happened. Making a burger at McDonalds has never been considered manufacturing.
"Obama" has >40% approval. In a healthy society, he would have 10%.
He got 69 million votes two years ago. While it's true that some of those won't do it again, the depth of fantasy thinking that allowed that to happen is still present.
The MSM is about to start a 23-month long celebration of his accomplishments.
The MSM is planning to assure the nomination of a weak GOP candidate like Romney, or, failing that, to pre-emptively destroy the only American patriot in the race.
If we don't WAKE THE F*** UP and accept the possibility that "Obama", whoever he really is, can be re-elected then we will go into the next two years overconfident.
Two things have to happen:
1) We need to unify behind Our Lady of Wasilla.
2) We need to push her and her advisers HARD to start the smelly and unpleasant job of tearing Obama to shreds, come what may.
I was very encouraged by her Christmas scripture today: 2 Timothy 1:7.
Why don’t you straighten us out on this fine Christmas Day. Tell us how great the countries manufacturing infrastructure is after 20 years of cannibalism by the FREE TRADERS. Have a nice day in Yankee Land.
Assuming you are referring to Palin in the latter part of your statement, I agree, the media are going to destroy Palin, worse than they did Goldwater in '64. Obama won't be running against Palin, he'll be running against a media-created caricature of Palin.
There's not much we can do about the media, they're going to burnish the halo of Obama's glory even if the country is in a economic depression greater than the '30s and the Chinese and Russians are landing on our shores in droves. But what we can do different than we did in '64 is not destroy our own candidate, regardless of who it is. Goldwater got only 39% of the vote in '64 against Johnson due in large part to 'Pubs voting for Johnson out of spite, to "send a message" (sound familiar?). If we're smart (and I wonder about that sometimes, when it comes to political strategy and tactics), we won't make the same mistake again.
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