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Why conservatives should want to bail out California
The Daily Caller ^ | 12/27/10 | Peter Tucci

Posted on 12/27/2010 5:21:08 PM PST by Nachum

It’s looking increasingly likely that California will get bailed out by the federal government. The Golden State is $70 billion in the hole. Analysts expect that figure to reach $150 billion within four years — and that’s not including the state’s $500 billion unfunded pension liability. Spending needs to be cut dramatically, but it won’t be; the state is too politically dysfunctional to do that. And the election of big-spender Jerry Brown will only make things worse. (Incidentally, Governor-elect Brown recently described his state’s budget problems this way: “It is much worse than I thought. I am shocked.”)

Most conservatives are adamantly opposed to bailing out any state, especially California. They argue that Californians in particular don’t deserve a bail out, that a bailout would set a bad example for other states, and that it would cost too much.

But these arguments assume that a bailout of California would come with no strings attached. That may be what ends up happening, but it doesn’t have to. It’s possible to make the bailout contingent on Sacramento making drastic budget cuts and passing constitutional amendments that radically reform the state’s political system.

And the state’s political system is certainly in need of reform. Some ideas: Scaling back the state’s maze of regulations; eliminating some of its hundreds of unnecessary boards and commissions; imposing a real spending cap (the current one is too high to make a difference); laying off state employees; and reducing future pension obligations.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: bail; cabudget; california; conservatives; idiocy; out
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To: Nachum

I am a conservative and a Californian. I do NOT want the federal government bailing this state out.


41 posted on 12/27/2010 6:06:17 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Attn. GOP: Deliver the goods, or we'll do to you what we did to the Dems!)
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To: Nachum

attaching strings to crack doesn’t end crack addictions - it just teaches junkies how to use scissors.


42 posted on 12/27/2010 6:06:38 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: Nachum
Peter Tucci has no idea what a Conservative is. Bail outs, especially with strings attached is against everything we believe. The only true correction with Cali will come at the end of it's full destruction. Rebuild it from scratch. Peter you are a progressive hack and a child.


43 posted on 12/27/2010 6:12:38 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: vbmoneyspender

I may not be the brightest, but what would happen if all those pension funds weren’t able to pay those exorbitant figures and they said “Screw you, we can’t afford it” and they stopped paying them. What would they do, sue the State and if they did, where exactly would the money come from if it’s broke?

Put me out of my misery and tell me why it couldn’t happen.


44 posted on 12/27/2010 6:12:46 PM PST by Never2baCrat
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To: Patrick1

6. California is immediately a “shall issue” state. No excuses.


45 posted on 12/27/2010 6:13:05 PM PST by rickb308 (Nothing good ever came from someone yelling Allah Snackbar)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I dont want the government’s money for CA - its like drugs for a junkie.


46 posted on 12/27/2010 6:13:40 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Nachum

Bail out a state that spent 1/2 billion dollars to build a high school? Cold day in hell!


47 posted on 12/27/2010 6:19:54 PM PST by GregoryFul (Obama - Jim Jones redux)
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To: Nachum

Bo NOT bail us out! How will our leaders LEARN? This is basic psychology.


48 posted on 12/27/2010 6:23:37 PM PST by moodyskeptic (Cultural warrior with a keyboard)
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To: Nachum
It's a silly idea.

Even IF we were able to come to terms, nobody would ever enforce them. CA would spend the money then look for more...with no intention of ever enacting the harsh medicine.

Not. One. Penny.

49 posted on 12/27/2010 6:26:14 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Nachum

Being fiscally responsible means saying no...PERIOD.

If they bailout CA...watch TX ditch the union.


50 posted on 12/27/2010 6:29:50 PM PST by surfer (To err is human, to really foul things up takes a Democrat, don't expect the GOP to have the answer!)
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To: moodyskeptic

Why would any conservative encourage the feds to interfere with state laws?


51 posted on 12/27/2010 6:30:11 PM PST by Dianna
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To: tacticalogic

Or deliver them via airburst from secure launch sites outside of Kaulifornia.


52 posted on 12/27/2010 6:31:09 PM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: EGPWS
I think we should sell California to the Chinese as a start in buying down our debt.

Do you realize how many thousands of California veterans lay buried in that soil? What will you say to them when you so cavalierly sell the ground they fought and died for to China?

53 posted on 12/27/2010 6:32:49 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Nachum
California made a fundamental error. They voted Democrat in a Republican year.

They get NOTHING.

54 posted on 12/27/2010 6:36:21 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: cripplecreek
I was just thinking that the Obama regime set the standard of transcontinental sympathy when they stole the Indiana State teachers' retirement fund and gave it to the UAW.
55 posted on 12/27/2010 6:38:51 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: MeganC

Well said...


56 posted on 12/27/2010 6:41:26 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Nachum

Just turn the lights out after everyone has left.

Then watch it wash into the Pacific, hopefully taking the spenders that ruined the state.


57 posted on 12/27/2010 6:46:45 PM PST by ADSUM (Democracy works when citizens get involved and keep government honest.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

This is Peter Tucci, the author of this article? Why, he's a mere boy. No wonder the article is nonsensical.

Do some growing up, kid, before you attempt to advise conservatives about an issue as large as bailing out a failing state.

58 posted on 12/27/2010 6:51:26 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Nachum
NO,never, not in this lifetime. They dug the hole by electing that swineherd of liberals, let them lie down with their stymates.
59 posted on 12/27/2010 6:58:49 PM PST by eaglesiniowa ((Hope is not a course of action))
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To: Nachum

Not just NO, but #)#)*$)(&@#_)$R&#@)$$_&*#)(*Y&$_)(@#)(&$#@)(#)(#)(&$$##&)$(&$(*@Y^@)#+@+@+&*@)$(*&@(* NO!!!


60 posted on 12/27/2010 7:01:21 PM PST by patriot preacher
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