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More From NSSF On Proposed ATF Long Gun Reporting
NSSF ^ | 30 December, 2010 | Larry Keane

Posted on 12/31/2010 5:13:02 AM PST by marktwain

More on ATF Multiple Sales Reporting

December 29, 2010 By Larry Keane

An editorial in today’s Washington Post discussed the recent decision by ATF to require federally licensed firearms retailers along the Southwest border to report multiple sales, or other dispositions, of most semi-automatic rifles. Specifically this would impact .22 caliber or larger semi-automatic rifles that are capable of accepting a detachable magazine and are purchased by the same individual within five consecutive business days.

Though the Post supports this ill-advised proposal, it did acknowledge the legitimacy surrounding one of industry’s objections:

“When reports of its plan surfaced, the administration came under immediate attack from the gun rights lobby. The National Shooting Sports Foundation, the firearms industry trade association, argued that the administration lacked the legal authority to demand data on rifles and shotguns. It has a point: While Congress authorized the ATF to collect information on handgun sales, it declined to extend the requirement to long guns. A court is likely to be asked to decide whether demand letters may be used to shake loose this information …”

NSSF continues to oppose multiple sales reporting of semi-automatic rifles. Such reporting requirements will actually make it more difficult for licensed retailers to help law enforcement as traffickers modify their illegal schemes to circumvent the reporting requirement. Traffickers will go further underground, hiring more people to buy their firearms. This will make it much harder for retailers to identify and report suspicious behavior to law enforcement.

NSSF would also like to remind all members of industry, sportsmen and gun owners to voice their concerns by doing the following:

1. Call the Office of Management and Budget, Office of Information and Regulation Affairs, Department of Justice, Desk Officer at (202) 395-6466.

2. E-mail Barbara A. Terrell, ATF, Firearms Industry Programs Branch at Barbara.Terrell@atf.gov

3. Call your Senators and Representative: United States Capitol Switchboard: 202-224-3121

4. Send an already formatted cap-wiz letter.

Points to make:

1.Multiple sales reporting of long guns will actually make it more difficult for licensed retailers to help law enforcement as traffickers modify their illegal schemes to circumvent the reporting requirement. Traffickers will go further underground, hiring more people to buy their firearms. This will make it much harder for retailers to identify and report suspicious behavior to law enforcement.

2.Long guns are rarely used in crime (Bureau of Justice Statistics).

3.Imposing multiple sales-reporting requirements for long guns would further add to the already extensive paperwork and record-keeping requirements burdening America’s retailers – where a single mistake could cost them their license and even land them in jail.

4.Last year, ATF inspected 2,000 retailers in border states and only two licenses were revoked (0.1%). These revocations were for reasons unknown and could have had nothing to do with illicit trafficking of guns; furthermore, no dealers were charged with any criminal wrongdoing.

5.According to ATF, the average age of a firearm recovered in the United States is 11 years old. In Mexico it’s more than 14 years old. This demonstrates that criminals are not using new guns bought from retailers in the states.

6.Congress, when it enacted multiple sales reporting for handguns, could have required multiple sales of long guns – it specifically chose not to.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Sports
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; batfags; batfe; bloodoftyrants; bootthebatfe; constitution; cw2; donttreadonme; guncontrol; jbts; registration; shallnotbeinfringed; tyranny
The real goal here is registration. Currently, only the records from multiple handgun sales are kept in a national computerized data base. I am told that this is so because it was started before the congressional ban on a national registration system, so it was "grandfathered" in. It seems likely that the Obama administration would use the multiple reporting requirements to create a similar registrations system for long guns.
1 posted on 12/31/2010 5:13:08 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

They keep trying to make the case that the problems in Mexico are the fault of ordinary Americans.

The firearm angle has been debunked for those who pay attention, but not for those more interested in American Idol. This action just helps cement the idea into the weak-minded that the US firearm industry is a source of crime.

It will be actions like this coming from the Obama Administration over the next two years that will take place in an attempt to preserve liberal fantasies.


2 posted on 12/31/2010 5:38:06 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (Too many conservatives urge retreat when the war of politics doesn't go their way.)
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To: marktwain

LEO’s making felons out of Americans. Nice. Meet the new political GESTAPO.


3 posted on 12/31/2010 5:39:55 AM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.)
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To: marktwain

Drug cartels use full auto weapons from corrupt police and military in Central & South America. Others are shipped from China, in bulk.
They don’t want U.S. semi-auto weapons for the most part.


4 posted on 12/31/2010 7:21:41 AM PST by G Larry (When you're right, avoid compromise!)
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To: marktwain

Drug cartels use full auto weapons from corrupt police and military in Central & South America. Others are shipped from China, in bulk.
They don’t want U.S. semi-auto weapons for the most part.


5 posted on 12/31/2010 7:21:45 AM PST by G Larry (When you're right, avoid compromise!)
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To: marktwain

Drug cartels use full auto weapons from corrupt police and military in Central & South America. Others are shipped from China, in bulk.
They don’t want U.S. semi-auto weapons for the most part.


6 posted on 12/31/2010 7:21:45 AM PST by G Larry (When you're right, avoid compromise!)
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To: Leisler

To all FReepers actually

I have seen first hand where this leads, the registration and “we don’t keep this info” database scenario.

1) Need to register those that legally do the right thing

“we will not use this for control, and we shall not keep the records linked to anything”

Then some nut with a mental condition runs amok, and they knew he was unstable.

2) All firearms that do not fit this narrow description are now illegal, hand them in - aka anything not a bolt action.

3) This is going well so now all firearms are now no longer needed by the civilians so they are to be handed in, oh we pay you, if your lucky you get $50, most will get $30

4) They came house by house to Every person who owned a firearm on their database and demanded the gun, or proof it was handed in, “where is your receipt?” and they did it in staggered order over three years, small bites of the pie not one great confrontational gulp... sneeky devils...

The end result was that every person who legally owned a firearm, was an instant criminal until they either got their name ticked off in the database.

Where did it happen, Australia, what happened to the guns they showed us being destroyed, most were sorted and shipped off to South east Asia and to the US....

What happened when we postured at one SEA country for genocide and the invasion of New Guinea...

They told the Australian Govt, “back off, we know your civilians are unarmed, and you may be next”

Just an aside, unless something has changed of late, the country of Australia runs an ALL forces part and full time military of round 45,000 people, Most are called “logistical support” and you can read that as admin staff.

This is the force that protects a country over two thirds the size of the Continental USA.

We used to be able to count on our strength of civilian defense, now, its about as useful as the rabbit proof fence.

I am watching the USA go the same way in a rush that only maintaining the civilian population armed and alert will halt.

Oh btw... anyone wonder why you can only buy 10 to 20 year old ammo, or that the most popular gun stores now only sell curios..... your country is being starved of ammo, without that bang, the gun is just a heavy stick.

You are lucky here, you have rights , you have the Constitution, focus on how to use it in everything you do to regain your land, By the people, For the People, even for those who have become the sheeple, lead them back to the roots of your Countries Founding.

Thank you.. rant off.....

EL


7 posted on 12/31/2010 7:24:46 AM PST by Eureka_Lead
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Welcome Eureka_Lead, we need more like you here.


8 posted on 12/31/2010 7:41:55 AM PST by misanthrope (Liberals just plain suck!!)
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To: Eureka_Lead

Thanks E-L for the time to care and write. ( And, it was no rant either. )


9 posted on 12/31/2010 7:58:13 AM PST by Leisler (They always lie, and have for so much and for so long, that they no longer know what about.)
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To: marktwain; harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Once again, we see the current administration exerting its will by bureaucratic fiat, when they can't ram through their agenda via the legislature or have judges rule from the bench.

The march towards statism just took one more step forward.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

10 posted on 12/31/2010 1:38:18 PM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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