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If Palin Is Unelectable In 2012, So Are All The Other GOP Candidates
conservatives4palin ^ | 1-03-11 | Sheya

Posted on 01/03/2011 9:59:10 PM PST by unseen1

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To: Kickass Conservative

If the GOp thinks to use Gov Palin as a cheap whore to sell their “candidate” of choice I have news for them. I donate to Gov Palin because I want her to run for POTUS and I want our country to return to Reaganism. The day she decides not to run I stop donating. Either she runs or the money dries up IMO.

The GOP establishment thinks they can have all the bonuses of Gov Palin without giving her a major seat at the table. they are wrong.


21 posted on 01/03/2011 10:57:57 PM PST by unseen1
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To: unseen1

I don’t understand why mainstream GOP pundits are pushing Mitch Daniels as somehow extremely electable. I have no idea, really, who he is, and I haven’t heard a peep from him on any issues.


22 posted on 01/03/2011 11:06:23 PM PST by GoodDay (Palin for POTUS 2012)
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To: bigbob
Oh i think President Palin would compromise. Much like Reagan compromised. she will give up on some of the little things to move her conservative policy forward. unlike say the RINOs who compromise on their core beliefs to appease the media. Palin would compromise on little stuff to advance her core beliefs.

compromise in and of itself is not bad. compromise is only seen as bad in today's world because the RINOs have proven to be terrible horse traders...

23 posted on 01/03/2011 11:10:20 PM PST by unseen1
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To: GoodDay

because danials is a bushie and not a Reaganite. the mainstream GOP pundits are all bushies except for Rush and at times Hannity. It is no coincidence that Rush supports Palin 110% as the only Reaganite radio host left.


24 posted on 01/03/2011 11:12:22 PM PST by unseen1
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To: Cobra64

I’m also a Palin fan who has trouble with her voice. I believe she’s plenty smart and quick witted. She needs coaching just like a singer preparing for a tour. If anyone has access to Sarah please tell her to hire a voice coach.

Firstly: she’s blowing out her vocal chords yelling at that cheerleader level, which also is unmusical in that it it becomes a one note horn for volume. Like any good speaker/singer she must insist on good monitors and PA system so that she’s not ruining her voice trying to overcome equipment shortcomings. She (and everyone) sounds better, more relaxed and more intelligent when speaking at conversational volume. Notice how she sounds more intelligent in quiet interviews than on the campaign stops?

Please Sarah, DON’T YELL to crowds any longer. It’s an amateur’s mistake. Tell the venue to have adequate main drivers and monitors, along with good microphones. Practice with proximity effect (close the space between mouth and mic to test the system) have a trusted sound man in the audience signaling you.

You never saw Reagan yelling, he took the important moments to learn his gear first, then he drew the listeners in. Believe me, this will be a BIG improvement for Sarah, and it’s just common sense.


25 posted on 01/03/2011 11:13:32 PM PST by moodyskeptic (Cultural warrior with a keyboard)
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To: Lazlo in PA

The idea that Pence, a decent conservative but just a congressman with no executive experience and little charisma, is more ‘electable’ is laughable. I do wonder why certain bloggers have developed the following they have.


26 posted on 01/03/2011 11:15:45 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: moodyskeptic
Please Sarah, DON’T YELL to crowds any longer. It’s an amateur’s mistake. Tell the venue to have adequate main drivers and monitors, along with good microphones. Practice with proximity effect (close the space between mouth and mic to test the system) have a trusted sound man in the audience signaling you.

You never saw Reagan yelling, he took the important moments to learn his gear first, then he drew the listeners in. Believe me, this will be a BIG improvement for Sarah, and it’s just common sense.

I'm with you on this. Delivery of the message is very important. Reagan sounded calm, assured, and in control, because he did not yet. He did not have to yell.

27 posted on 01/03/2011 11:17:29 PM PST by thecodont
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To: 9YearLurker

“I do wonder why certain bloggers have developed the following they have.”

For the same reason that Foxnews gets the ratings it gets. when you are in a desert all water tastes good.

there is a shortage of conservative bloggers, conservative cablenews, conservative MSM etc. So all conservative media gets a good following.

As the rightsphere blogging world comes online People like Allah and eric will be sidelined IMO.


28 posted on 01/03/2011 11:20:01 PM PST by unseen1
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To: thecodont
I love Reaganism whether it is delivered in a easy manner or yelled at from the top of a roof. Reaganism goes beyond the delivery method...
29 posted on 01/03/2011 11:22:00 PM PST by unseen1
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To: moodyskeptic
I agree. Sarah's political twin, Michele Bachmann has a very nice conversational voice and is a pleasure to listen to. No yelling and sudden squeaks. Anyway, there's nothing wrong with Sarah getting a voice coach.

My wife has been taking professional singing lessons most of her life, and she's quite good at harmonizing with opera singers as well as occasionally spoofing actresses.

Even though we love Sarah, wifey will do a Sarah immitation when she's speaking on Hannity. It's pretty funny actually.

30 posted on 01/03/2011 11:27:14 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: unseen1
Listen to her on the audio book of america by heart. you will change your mind.

I'm sure you're right. Will all of her campaign speeches and rallies be recorded on audio books?

31 posted on 01/03/2011 11:30:30 PM PST by Cobra64
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To: unseen1

I’m actually afraid that your title is true. 2012 not looking so good, despite what Obumbler has done to the nation.


32 posted on 01/04/2011 12:00:37 AM PST by dixjea
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To: redangus

let them sit on their asses then. I am willing on taking a bet that if it comes down to Sarah Palin vs Obama.. more of them than not will eventually come into line with OUR position and vote for her.

because we are sure as hell are not following their lead. their lead got us John McCain.


33 posted on 01/04/2011 12:24:31 AM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative (Palin or 3rd party... no exceptions !)
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To: unseen1
In a Crisis Era, mushy moderates on either side do not win elections.

Look at all the success Republicans had running progressive liberal Republicans against FDR in 1932, 1936, 1940, and 1944.

Not a single one of these people could articulate a Constitutional conservative vision for the USA, and none of them even tried. All four of them were slightly less communist than FDR, and differed only on the pro-business angle (exactly like the RINOs of today).

And they all lost to the second worst communist president the USA ever had.


1932 Election

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover

Hoover was a professional mining engineer and author. As the United States Secretary of Commerce in the 1920s under Presidents Warren G. Harding and Calvin Coolidge, he promoted government intervention under the rubric "economic modernization". In the presidential election of 1928, Hoover easily won the Republican nomination, despite having no previous elected office experience. To date, Hoover is the last cabinet secretary to be directly elected President of the United States, as well as one of only two Presidents (along with William Howard Taft) to have been elected President without electoral experience or high military rank. America was prosperous and optimistic at the time, leading to a landslide victory for Hoover over Democrat Al Smith.

Hoover, a trained engineer, deeply believed in the Efficiency Movement, which held that government and the economy were riddled with inefficiency and waste, and could be improved by experts who could identify the problems and solve them. When the Wall Street Crash of 1929 struck less than eight months after he took office, Hoover tried to combat the ensuing Great Depression with volunteer efforts, none of which produced economic recovery during his term. The consensus among historians is that Hoover's defeat in the 1932 election was caused primarily by failure to end the downward economic spiral. As a result of these factors, Hoover is ranked poorly among former US Presidents.


1936 Election

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alf_Landon

Alfred "Alf" Mossman Landon - supported Theodore Roosevelt's Progressive Party in 1912, and, in 1922, was private secretary to the governor of Kansas. He later became known as the leader of the liberal Republicans in the state. He was elected chairman of the Republican state central committee in 1928 and directed the Republican successful presidential and gubernatorial campaigns in Kansas in that year.

Landon was elected Governor of Kansas in 1932. He was re-elected governor in 1934 – the only Republican governor in the nation to be re-elected that year. He served as governor from 1933 until 1937. As Governor, Landon gained a reputation for reducing taxes and balancing the budget. Landon is often described as a fiscal conservative who nevertheless believed that government must also address social issues. He supported parts of the New Deal but opposed labor unions.


1940 Election

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wendell_Willkie

Wendell Lewis Willkie ran against FDR in 1940 - a corporate lawyer and dark horse Republican Party nominee for the 1940 presidential election. A member of the liberal wing of the GOP, he crusaded against those domestic policies of the New Deal which he thought were inefficient and anti-business. Willkie, however, waffled on the bitterly debated issue of intervention in or isolation from World War II. His opponent Franklin D. Roosevelt won that election, with 55% of the popular vote and 85% of the electoral vote.


1944 Election

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_E._Dewey

Thomas Edmund Dewey ran against FDR in 1944 - led the liberal faction of the Republican Party, in which he fought conservative Ohio Senator Robert A. Taft. Dewey advocated for the professional and business community of the Northeastern United States, which would later be called the "Eastern Establishment." This organization accepted the majority of New Deal social-welfare reforms enacted during the administration of President Franklin D. Roosevelt. It consisted of internationalists who were in favor of the United Nations and the "Cold War" fought against communism and the Soviet Union.



34 posted on 01/04/2011 12:30:36 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: unseen1

I agree we have a bunch of foppish pundits like AP and Erickson and I found that Redstate and Hotair have become more pop culturistic aka stoopid....I also rarely can stand the Fox fair & balanced piss fest, the cry baby Shep, bloviator O’R, etc....there is a large opening for the true conservative voice that needs filling.


35 posted on 01/04/2011 1:18:12 AM PST by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: unseen1
The day she decides not to run I stop donating.

I have money ready for her campaign if she decides to run. If she decides not to run, the money stays where it is. She is the only one now on the scene I would vote for.

36 posted on 01/04/2011 1:47:31 AM PST by tommix2
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To: RobbyS
I want her to run because she is courageous. She has heart. She has nerve. As good Queen Bess put it: she has the stomach of a king.

She is trustwworthy and can not be bought.

37 posted on 01/04/2011 1:51:58 AM PST by tommix2
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To: moodyskeptic
Firstly: she’s blowing out her vocal chords yelling at that cheerleader level,Yes I worry about her voice giving out too. I remember Wendell Wilkie's voice got very hoarse at the end of his campaign. We didn't have sound amplifiers in those days.

Sarah, Tell the venue to have adequate main drivers and monitors, along with good microphones.

38 posted on 01/04/2011 2:01:58 AM PST by tommix2
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To: RobbyS

I like that. I am mostly a Libertarian myself. The hatred of her by the Left is a good indicator she might make for a good President.


39 posted on 01/04/2011 2:32:18 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Beware the Big Government Media Complex)
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To: moodyskeptic

Great post. I had the exact same thoughts about Alan Keyes. I love the content of his speeches (they are very good to read) but cannot listen to him speak for more than a couple of minutes.

I hope that someone around Sarah takes your good advice to heart.


40 posted on 01/04/2011 3:34:21 AM PST by don-o (Wait. What?)
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