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I do not want civil discourse
Don Surber Blog ^ | 1-16-11 | Don Surber

Posted on 01/16/2011 9:33:20 AM PST by radioone

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To: ClearCase_guy
Whether we want Palin, Bachmann, DeMint, or whomever, I think our candidate of choice is going to have to fight both political parties and the media. Very tough fight to win.

Guarantee that the oligarchs won't allow the election of an outsider. It has to be a NWO/Trilateralists. National elections suck because the middle class, hard working taxpayers always must settle for the lesser of 2 evils, which never assist them.

41 posted on 01/16/2011 1:19:03 PM PST by Digger ((If RINO is your selection, then failure is your election))
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To: Squantos; radioone; hiredhand; Travis McGee; SLB; Jeff Head; wardaddy; Gilbo_3; Liz; mkjessup; ...

“...bite me...” and “..So screw you and your civil discourse. ...”

Hehehe....this guy is a man after my own heart.

You are NOT alone, jack....there’s LEGIONS of us that feel exactly the same way.

Do not back down. Not one f***ing inch.

Best post in a long time. Wish I’d written it.


42 posted on 01/16/2011 1:24:07 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: ThunderSleeps

“..The First Amendment is non-negotiable.* “

So is the Second.

Not one more inch.

(yes, I saw the asterisk...just had to emphasize it.)


43 posted on 01/16/2011 1:26:37 PM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: radioone

Awesome! The comments following the article are uplifting as well.


44 posted on 01/16/2011 1:54:00 PM PST by upsdriver (to undo the damage the "intellectual elites" have done. . . . . Sarah Palin for President!)
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To: Cisco Nix
Lincoln's Cooper Speech: You charge that we stir up insurrections among your slaves. We deny it; and what is your proof? Harper's Ferry! John Brown!! John Brown was no Republican; and you have failed to implicate a single Republican in his Harper's Ferry enterprise. If any member of our party is guilty in that matter, you know it or you do not know it. If you do know it, you are inexcusable for not designating the man and proving the fact. If you do not know it, you are inexcusable for asserting it, and especially for persisting in the assertion after you have tried and failed to make the proof. You need to be told that persisting in a charge which one does not know to be true, is simply malicious slander.

BS. The libs and the Democrats have been lying and cheating long before that.

As you can see the Democrats are well practiced at lies and calumny and getting the idiot media to spout if for them.

45 posted on 01/16/2011 2:19:05 PM PST by eaglesiniowa ((Hope is not a course of action))
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To: Squantos

We’re fair to middlin’.

Did you read this one?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2656871/posts


46 posted on 01/16/2011 3:03:27 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: oldbrowser
Some will say by lowering ourselves to their level, we are no better than them.

I always thought that was a ridiculous notion. Don't talk bad about Bin Laden, because you'll only be lowering yourself to his level. The very idea is laughable.
47 posted on 01/16/2011 4:23:49 PM PST by youngidiot
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To: Travis McGee; ConservativeLawyer

I did .....very good stuff. Castigo Cay out yet ?? Waiting for that one .

Did ya see this one ? Very good read by Robert Capko....;o)

http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/33446

A few names we know in the acknowledgments .


48 posted on 01/16/2011 5:02:12 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: magslinger

Oh gosh, that does a number on my old eyes, but very cool!


49 posted on 01/16/2011 6:21:41 PM PST by brytlea
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To: Squantos
Excellent. :-) The left can kiss my ass as well. Their little experiment has failed. They just need to deal with it because for them to do anything else simply won't be productive for them or the nation. All they do is facilitate and extend suffering.

The recent shooting in AZ was tragic, and we're all grieved at varying degrees about Giffords and the others. But the left has politicized it and used it as a distraction. They forget that we peacefully handed them their heads on platters only this past November, and yet they speak as if they're on another gun control kick. They have about as much of a chance of pushing gun control legislation through as a snowball in hell. They speak as if they're still in power. Even speaking as IF they have authority (which they don't) they don't suggest anything helpful. Gun control is another of their dismal failures and the statistics gathering and reporting capabilities of the 80s, 90s, and the last 11 years are solidly against them. They have no argument for gun control anymore. But not only this, one of THEIR OWN is the killer. They PRODUCED the freak. But from what I've read about him, he led a tortured existence...a godless homosexual who took photos of himself wearing a red thong holding a pistol and then posted them on his blog. He is what the left produces, along with the murderers of the unborn, legislators who make careers out of keeping the poor in poverty through generations, and who mock the Constitution as a living document. He is the BEST they can produce, and when he performs the evil which was indoctrinated into him which perfects itself in homosexuality and murder, they promptly disown him and announce that he's the ENEMY...which is US. They ALL live in suffering and misery. It's what they ARE. It's their product.

Nice try you dumb-assed leftists. Not only are the facts against you, but too many of these facts have already been reported by the MSM. How's it feel to try to peg a murder that you're responsible for against your enemy, only to have the facts get in the way?! It please me immensely! :-) I only hope that one of your insane homosexual followers learns enough of the truth to turn on some of YOU next time, instead of the innocents.

It's an unspeakable shame that the the left politicize human suffering. It's as if their norm is to include such things in their campaign strategies and they see nothing wrong with it but it's shameful.

I haven't said this in awhile because I haven't been able to say much that's "positive" lately. But if the left weren't so F'n stupid, they'd thank us from the bottom of their hearts for not organizing and initiating a coup d e'tat starting at lowest possible levels. I didn't mention arming up because we're already armed. We don't operate like that murderous little asshole who shot Giffords and go buy a weapon a couple of weeks prior in an emotional heat. We're already armed...organized...and even a little upset. Actually, we're way, WAY beyond the point of being upset.

But alas we love peace, law, and order, and belong to The Lord and so we don't abide by the vile ways of the left. But as I was saying, if they weren't simply so stupid, they'd be grateful.

How it grieves me that they continue to live and cause such depths of trouble and suffering. But vengeance isn't mine to take. Stupid, malicious leftists will have to stand before God, just as we all will. But then again, they don't believe in God. We'll see how that works out for them some day. :-)

One thing is for certain though. This nation can't stand forever in its current form. It will fall, and we all know that power abhors a vacuum. Many other nations have suffered this. Viewing the digression we've been experiencing in our own nation, it's not inconceivable that we're going through this same cycle. What will the left do if we hit bottom? My advice to them would be for the leaders and academicians to leave for an overseas location IMMEDIATELY and for those remaining to stay very quiet, not make trouble, and keep their heads down.

If any of them stumbles across this entry, they need to know that I speak for a multitude of people and that what I've written is as civil as it's going to get. From here on out, it doesn't get any more civil.

Civil discourse indeed! Them calling for civil discourse is a lot like a pedophile demanding to be in charge of a day care. They're simply not capable, and their motives are suspect for very good reasons! There shouldn't even be a discussion. Just hang the bastard in public and move forward.
50 posted on 01/16/2011 7:06:38 PM PST by hiredhand
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To: NFHale
actually we've both written it several times, although not *quite* the same wording...

FUBO and the wookie ya rode in on...

a 'fair' fight is what the commies want when they dont have a winning hand, whilst at any other time they go all down & dirty...

again i say eff em and ifn they 'get in my face' or 'bring a gun'...well then lets just GIT-R DONE...

*if* they can manage to keep the festivities to 'discourse' I'll be more than amazed, and will gladly give them the same voice that theyve givien me in my time on this planet, which aint but a patronizing minute or two, beyond that, they can KMA and get hell outta the way...

sadly, my *representatives* will bend over far enuff to kiss their own and ultimately leave little recourse for us...Pray it aint so, but i dont hold much hope that we will see hardball from anyone but bloggers in the near future...

in that vein, the rin-o-p establishment that caves and fights fair in the distric of criminals can KMA as well...

not harsh enuff ??? need more vitriol ??? "BITE ME"...8^}

51 posted on 01/16/2011 8:52:40 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: hiredhand
Nailed it Sir...

I had to go with the bad cop routine...8^}

52 posted on 01/16/2011 8:58:40 PM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Squantos

bttt


53 posted on 01/16/2011 11:23:41 PM PST by wardaddy ("Out Here" by Josh Thompson pretty much says it all to those who will never understand anyhow)
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To: Finny
BLOAT= Buy Lots Of Ammo Today
54 posted on 01/16/2011 11:49:36 PM PST by hoagy62 (.)
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To: radioone

Sorry to say but the left has behaved this way since at least the days of Woodrow Wilson (Read Ann Coulter’s ‘Treason’). The only difference is today we have a media counterweight to make these tactics apparent to greater numbers of people.

Though over the years there has been much clandestine complicity within the GOP as well. Read ‘None Dare Call It Conspiracy’ by Gary Allen (1971) to learn who’s pulling the strings within both parties (Allen majored in history at Stanford and substantiates the claims in his book).

Unfortunately these shameless tactics of progressives of both the left and right can and will get far more ugly and far more brazen. Count on them to continually push the boundaries of treachery ever deeper into the realm of cruelty and deceit.

The sinister element behind the madness has seized control of both parties however it’s control of the GOP isn’t total. The conservative movement is the sole political player that remains uncorrupted and loyal to the founding principles of our American federation.


55 posted on 01/17/2011 6:05:13 AM PST by Chief Yellowsnow
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To: hoagy62
BLOAYA = Bought Lots Of Ammo Years Ago. :-)
56 posted on 01/17/2011 7:34:12 AM PST by hiredhand
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To: Gilbo_3
I just realized another reason why this "Civil Discourse" bullshit strikes a nerve with me.

Remember back a few years ago when Israel was kicking some serious butt of the malicious Arabs in their areas? I "think" it was when they were whooping up on Hamas when they took control of the government through "democratic" elections.

Anyway... Israel was being VERY effective at killing the little bastards before they could do a lot of harm. Then suddenly, Hamas called something known as a Hudna. The MSM as well as Hamas said it was a ceasefire. But less obscure and more conservative news sources (as well as Israel) said that it merely meant to "regroup and rearm". As it turned out, the definition was the latter...to regroup and rearm.

This cry for civil discourse is a lot like those murderous rag heads calling for Hudna. They have an ulterior motive. The morons participated in violent rhetoric until one of their one lost control and murdered six people, so now they cry for civil discourse. But that's not what they want. I think down under it all, they know (as we do!) that another Loughner will be very bad for them. I think they've produced a certain subculture that they've lost control over. This subculture is so far left of them that it's feeling disenfranchised and is willing to commit violence in order to bring their little leftist utopia into being. Everybody knows at least somebody like this.

The fact is that we've said very little that would indicate we would initiate violence against them. Now granted, we showed up at TEA Party gatherings ARMED, and open carry events ARMED, and we're known to be ARMED. But we're not much when it comes to making threats. In fact, all in all we're a pretty friendly bunch. They on the other hand are vile, profane, and aggressive towards anybody who doesn't embrace diversity, worship their junk science of global warming, want to free Tibet, or support a woman's right to choose.

They can "ask" for civil discourse, but they won't get it. The fact is that they don't know how to participate in it and never did. There's nothing civil about them. They're vile and aggressive and nothing that comes from their mouths is ever completely true.

I for one have no intention of being any more civil with them than I've been all along. Furthermore, I'll be communicating to my legislators that they too should ignore this hypocritical and disingenuous request.
57 posted on 01/17/2011 8:20:39 AM PST by hiredhand
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To: hoagy62

Thanks for letting me know! :^)


58 posted on 01/17/2011 8:28:50 AM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: hiredhand
to regroup and rearm.

thats a peeve of mine as well...although i typically wasnt a streetfighter, [lots of buds liked to fight ] when theres no alternative, i go for the MOST hurt i can put on ya...tho mostly on the baseball diamond, football field and the wrestling matt were where i learned to 'take no prisoners' and to exploit every weakness and lay waste to the opponent [enemy] and not let up, those night walkin home thru the park where there was no referee made me brutally aware of my fellow mans lower nature, and HOW to beat him at his own 'game'...

just like Patton said...'hold em by the nose and kick em in the ass'...

The fact is that we've said very little that would indicate we would initiate violence against them. Now granted, we showed up at TEA Party gatherings ARMED

while the record clearly shows that the commies are constantly rabble rousing, and *laying hands* on peaceful demonstrators in venues where the *law* is disarmament only, they didnt try that crap in other venues...while i believe that the goons squads of the left will be formidably armed, i bet that when the rubber hits the road, they piss themselves at the thought of a 'level playing field'...most cheaters detest it, and most commies are cheeeeeeters....

as far as the *words* and philoshophies are concerned, i believe we have the historically and common sense high ground...sure, I'll spend a few minutes to attempt to convince/enlighten someone of it, but when they go all aggressive retard, theres no further need or desire for me to stay down on their level, instead it much more sane of me to go back to my high ground and simply man my arty and belt-feds...8^}...if they wanna pursue and push it, then its on them...

i cant pretend to know what the Lord is gonna do in the near term [even Lord Jesus wasnt privy to the timetable while walkin the earth] but my *spidey sense* tells me that the looooons are gonna get a whole lotta licks in...a literal attempt at 'death by a thousand cuts'...and while a wholesale retaliation against 'government' wont be beneficial to our cause today, the fact that we can *help* in those momments [like the armed citizen in tucson] is for now, where we can get a bit of pushback and set the boundaries...

59 posted on 01/17/2011 10:35:22 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3

All good points buddy! I’ll be back later. :-) ...going out with SP. :-)


60 posted on 01/17/2011 10:41:02 AM PST by hiredhand
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