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House of Reps Definition of “Natural Born Citizen” = Born of citizen “parents” in the US.
Natural Born Citizen ^ | March 9, 2011 | Leo Donofrio

Posted on 03/09/2011 1:39:10 PM PST by patlin

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To: Fantasywriter

WOW!!!!

What dead souls.

Absolutely blind and dead.

Amazing.


141 posted on 03/10/2011 9:16:16 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: bushpilot1

I’m sure he can’t even control his own wind. Somewhere on some threads (insider ones?) it is said that he stinks to be around, literally.


142 posted on 03/10/2011 9:17:04 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

It’s terrifying. It’s like that O.T. passage, in Jeremiah, I think, that compares the desire to sin to a wild donkey in heat. Nothing is going to stop her from seeking her mate. Hanson & co. were determined to pursue this great evil, which they had come to love far more than they loved God and His Word/commandments. Nothing—not even a bolt of lightning—could dissuade them. May such terrifying blindness never overtake any of the rest of us.


143 posted on 03/10/2011 9:20:29 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

I will have to read the book of Jeremiah again, more carefully. That is an interesting analogy. Not even a bolt of lightning. Reminds me of the writing on the wall.


144 posted on 03/10/2011 9:38:43 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: bushpilot1; rxsid; patlin
From your link BP1. 14th Amendment Citizenship.

House Comm Foreign Relations 187 4 NYT March 29 pg 1
House Foreign Relations Committee NYT 1874 page 2

145 posted on 03/10/2011 9:43:21 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: little jeremiah

It’s in the second chapter of Jeremiah [New International Version]:

20 “Long ago you broke off your yoke
and tore off your bonds;
you said, ‘I will not serve you!’
Indeed, on every high hill
and under every spreading tree
you lay down as a prostitute.
21 I had planted you like a choice vine
of sound and reliable stock.
How then did you turn against me
into a corrupt, wild vine?
22 Although you wash yourself with soap
and use an abundance of cleansing powder,
the stain of your guilt is still before me,”
declares the Sovereign LORD.
23 “How can you say, ‘I am not defiled;
I have not run after the Baals’?
See how you behaved in the valley;
consider what you have done.
You are a swift she-camel
running here and there,
24 a wild donkey accustomed to the desert,
sniffing the wind in her craving—
in her heat who can restrain her?
Any males that pursue her need not tire themselves;
at mating time they will find her.
25 Do not run until your feet are bare
and your throat is dry.
But you said, ‘It’s no use!
I love foreign gods,
and I must go after them.’


146 posted on 03/10/2011 10:05:40 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: bushpilot1

Interesting story. So Lord Haw Haw was of split allegiances. Born in the U.S., and still was a subject to the British crown where the Brits still hanged him for treason from the gallows. This fits nicely with Kawikita V. United States, 1952. Kawikita had spit allegiances or duel citizenship and who was also found of treason against the United States.

There is an object lesson here about these two court cases concerning Obama.


147 posted on 03/10/2011 10:26:28 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=igBZAAAAIBAJ&sjid=yEcDAAAAIBAJ&pg=1265,3477445&dq=citizen+parents&hl=en


148 posted on 03/11/2011 12:34:16 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

Important, re your link
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=k_E6AAAAIBAJ&sjid=fyoMAAAAIBAJ&pg=1482,13599073&dq=born+subject+to+jurisdiction&;

further info from Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_haw_haw

....Joyce was captured by British forces in northern Germany just as the war ended,[17] tried, and eventually hanged for treason on 3 January 1946. Joyce’s defence team, appointed by the court, argued that, as an American citizen and naturalised German, Joyce could not have been convicted of treason against the British Crown. However, the prosecution successfully argued on the basis of a technicality that having lied about his nationality to obtain a British passport and to vote, Joyce owed allegiance to the king....

Significance, should it be found Obama is not an American Citizen, his possesion of a US passport and oath of allegiance to same could still subject him to charges of treason should it be found he is ineligible...


149 posted on 03/11/2011 2:30:19 AM PST by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: jamese777

I wonder who wrote that statement for Sheik Hussein?


150 posted on 03/11/2011 2:37:17 AM PST by Fresh Wind (TOTUS knows how to give a speech. Obama knows how to read.)
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To: Fresh Wind

I wonder who wrote that statement for Sheik Hussein?


The White House press office. The same folks who make sure there are photo ops of him going to Church on Christmas and Easter.


151 posted on 03/11/2011 8:54:43 AM PST by jamese777
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To: Red Steel

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=P9BNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=QYoDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7259,3374127&dq=wong+kim+ark&hl=en


152 posted on 03/11/2011 10:47:09 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1; STARWISE; rxsid; Red Steel; edge919; Spaulding; Danae; Fred Nerks; Beckwith; ...
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F70F1EF93C5A137B93C7A8178DD85F4C8784F9

New York Times - Jun 15, 1878

But Indians in the tribes will not be deemed born subject to the . Jurisdiction here does not mean

jurisdiction does not mean territory

153 posted on 03/11/2011 6:47:42 PM PST by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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The CIVIL SERVICE.; A Bill to Provide for its Greater Efficiency
Published: May 15, 1864

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70A1EFA345F137B93C7A8178ED85F408684F9

A bill to provide for the greater efficiency of the civil service of the United States.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America, in Congress assembled. That the President be, and he hereby is, authorized to appoint, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, a board of examiners, consisting of three commissioners, at salaries of _____ dollars a year. And the commissioners may appoint a clerk to the board, with an annual compensation of $2,000; and these sums, and the necessary expenses of the board, including rent and the traveling expenses of the commissioners and clerk, shall be paid from any money in the treasury not otherwise appropriated.

SEC. 2. And be it further enacted, That no person shall be appointed after the date of this act to any civil office under the United States, whether by way of original appointment or promotion, unless recommended by a certificate of the board: Provided, That this shall not apply to offices the appointing power to which is by the Constitution vested in the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate: Provided, however, That applicants for such offices shall be examined by the board, if they present themselves, and shall receive certificates in the same manner as other applicants.

SEC. 3. And be it further enacted. That the board shall hold examinations of applicants, for civil office under the United States, at such places as they may designate, and at times to be determined by consideration of the needs of the service, and the number of vacancies to be filled, after consultation with the President, courts, or heads of department, as the case may be, and after public notice of the time, place, and regulations of proposed examination.

SEC. 4. And be it further enacted, That applicants for examination shall be citizens of the United States, (including all persons born in the United States, and not owing allegiance elsewhere,) between the ages or eighteen and twenty-five, and shall furnish such testimonials of personal character, and take such oath of allegiance as the board shall prescribe: and all fees received under the provisions of this act shall be paid by the board into the Treasury of the United States; Provided, That if the examination is for any office, the duties of which are to be performed in any particular State, then the applicant, in addition to the above requirements, shall have resided in such State one year before the time of examination, and in such case the board shall designate a place of examination within such State: Provided, however, That the President may suspend the operation of the preceding proviso as to any States or parts of States where he may deem it expedient so to do.

154 posted on 03/11/2011 7:35:13 PM PST by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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To: patlin

Thanks for digging this up out of the record!


155 posted on 03/11/2011 7:48:39 PM PST by thecodont
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To: patlin

Great find!


156 posted on 03/11/2011 8:41:25 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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