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Economists predict: 7.7 percent unemployment on Election Day 2012 (And unicorns will replace cars!)
The Hill ^ | March 14, 2011 | Peter Schroeder

Posted on 03/16/2011 6:06:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

President Obama may be closing out his campaign for a second term with the nation's unemployment rate standing at 7.7 percent, according to a new survey.

A survey of economists conducted by the Wall Street Journal predicts that the president will be dealing with a jobless rate that would be the highest in a presidential election month since Jimmy Carter defeated Gerald Ford in 1976.

The 54 economists, echoing recent comments from Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, expect the unemployment rate to decline from the current 8.9 percent in the coming months, but at a slow, deliberate pace.

And while a 7.7 percent rate would fall on the high end of the scale for presidential elections, the article points out that the trend of that rate, rather than just the number, is a factor for the incumbent at the ballot box.

The unemployment rate was 7.5 percent when Ronald Reagan defeated Jimmy Carter in 1980. While slightly lower than when he was elected, Carter was ousted while the rate was on the upswing, having increased from a low of 5.6 percent earlier in his term.

On the other hand, Reagan won re-election in 1984 with a 7.2 percent unemployment rate in the background, but he was able to campaign on the headwind provided by its decrease -- it peaked at 10.8 percent in 1982.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; economy; obama; unemployment
We'll be lucky if it's still down to 8.9% (which is a completely bogus number anyhow) by then. If gas is $5 or more, all bets are off.
1 posted on 03/16/2011 6:06:51 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

predicated on driving millions more out of the job market and therefore no longer having to count them as “unemployed”


2 posted on 03/16/2011 6:08:18 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah...I’m sure the Dems wil jigger the numbers..to get 7%...while the real number will be three times that.

Look for them to try to interfere with the unemployed’s voting rights...


3 posted on 03/16/2011 6:09:36 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you do not, no explanation is possible")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It appears that the private sector is healing a bit and able to hire some folks. The public sector, however, now must align its work force with it revenue stream. That stream dropped significantly due to the disappearance of stimulus money, and loss of sales tax and income tax revenues. There will be layoffs at the state and local level. 7.7% may be somebody’s pipe dream.


4 posted on 03/16/2011 6:10:20 AM PDT by mlocher (Who is going to watch the hoops bracket show tonight?)
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The Labor Dept. which works for Obama can make up whatever rate they want to.


5 posted on 03/16/2011 6:14:05 AM PDT by Old Retired Army Guy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I actually believe this. They already dropped it from 9.8% in November to 8.9% in March while creating only 300,000 jobs. Easy stuff.

The real number is jobs. Barry is still down 3 million jobs from 01/20/09. He can’t massage this number.


6 posted on 03/16/2011 6:14:07 AM PDT by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The sad thing is the media can manipulate the data to be whatever they want it to be.

Just like the Fed can mess with the currency by adding zeros.
7 posted on 03/16/2011 6:14:36 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They are still very bad numbers and i bet they are worse than that.


8 posted on 03/16/2011 6:15:38 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama got straight A’s in Book Cooking at the UCSGG. University of Chicago school of Government Graft.


9 posted on 03/16/2011 6:25:21 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (34 States)
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Amazing how the percent drops — especially when the BLS drops about 3 million unemployed from the countable numbers.

Maybe alien abductions?

Bank on this: They will find ways to drop more to get the number to 8% or less.


10 posted on 03/16/2011 6:25:37 AM PDT by TomGuy
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He has to be below 8% so it will be below 8. A month or two after the election they will revise the number upward. We need to push the real number, claims and those who quit looking. That is about 16-17% right now and will probably decline very little by 2012.


11 posted on 03/16/2011 6:35:24 AM PDT by mortal19440
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Every administration uses the more favorable U-3 numbers, rather than the more accurate U-6 numbers.


12 posted on 03/16/2011 6:40:59 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

ahhhh, Economists. If it weren’t for them we might not even have the word “unexpected”


13 posted on 03/16/2011 6:43:52 AM PDT by MNDude (so that's what they meant by Carter's second term)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I predict a lot of “ unexpected’s “ in economic reports between now and November 2012.


14 posted on 03/16/2011 6:51:21 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Carter 2.0 The Epic Fail Edition)
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To: TomGuy

Agree, but we can still keep raising the U-6 number. It’s like the Fed saying inflation is almost zero because they don’t count fuel and food.


15 posted on 03/16/2011 6:54:16 AM PDT by mortal19440
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think they are smoking crack pipes, unemployment in Memphis is about 10% and not going to come down any time soon.


16 posted on 03/16/2011 7:14:08 AM PDT by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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The administration will be heavily cooking the numbers. Of course the news media will provide cover by happily reporting and ‘finding’ evidence along with anedotal stories to back up the numbers. I can see it now, some guy in OH that lost his high paying job under Bush now has a higher paying job with a government program thanks to Obama.

The repubs should be ready to counter this propaganda but won’t.


17 posted on 03/16/2011 7:14:50 AM PDT by ATLDiver
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, a unicorn and a car both have horns, but other than that, I don’t see unicorns replacing cars.


18 posted on 03/16/2011 7:35:30 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: mlocher
I wonder why any one continues to believe any prediction made by the current inhabitants inside the beltway, particularly those supporting OBAMA.

I would grant them some degree of creditability if any of their funded programs had come close to achieving a measurable result. But to date they can only point to conditions that didn't get worse.

Since when has limiting a failure to a lesser degree of failure been defined as a success?

19 posted on 03/16/2011 7:58:08 AM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL)
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To: mortal19440

The U-6 has been going down as well. Discouraged workers and part time for economic reasons have both dropped since last year.


20 posted on 03/16/2011 4:06:32 PM PDT by pinqy
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