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To: Yaelle
It is not crazy to insist that our candidates prove they are eligible.

No, but it's crazy to continue to insist long after it has been done.

It's also crazy dismiss an evidenciary document that would suffice as prima facie evidence of birth in the USA before any court or government agency, especially when said birth in the USA is verbally confirmed by a State official charged with maintaining state birth records.

Finally, it's even crazier to make up a new definition of natural born citizenship that was clearly never employed in the entire history of the United States.

11 posted on 04/04/2011 11:25:31 AM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

has there been a definitive list of documents that Obama has refused to- or hidden from- disclosing?


12 posted on 04/04/2011 11:31:05 AM PDT by Optimist
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To: curiosity

“evidenciary document that would suffice as prima facie evidence of birth in the USA before any court or government agency”

uh.....NO.

Face it pal, you’re on a loser. Only a matter of T I M E.


23 posted on 04/04/2011 1:57:08 PM PDT by cycle of discernment
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To: curiosity
It is not crazy to insist that our candidates prove they are eligible.

No, but it's crazy to continue to insist long after it has been done.

It's even crazier to insist that Obama has demonstrated his eligibility.

26 posted on 04/04/2011 3:25:16 PM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: curiosity
No, but it's crazy to continue to insist long after it has been done. It's also crazy dismiss an evidenciary document that would suffice as prima facie evidence of birth in the USA before any court or government agency, especially when said birth in the USA is verbally confirmed by a State official charged with maintaining state birth records.

Is that the, "oh well, it's already happened" defense? If the gate attendant realized Mohammed Atta shouldn't have been on that flight, but he just walked past her and boarded, should she have just thrown up her hands and said, "He's already in; it'd be too much trouble"?

Because he fooled everyone, and had plenty of others who didn't care whether he was eligible defending him, he should just be allowed to run again without proving eligibility?

So far, there are no Hawaiian officials going to bat for that phony certificate of live birth, saying that this doc proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was born in HI. They couldn't. Because they were given out for people who were not born in HI. And because it's just a photocopy. You'd have to see the original and proof the number, etc. There are so many inconsistencies in that document that it cannot be legit, also.

30 posted on 04/04/2011 4:00:09 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: curiosity
"said birth in the USA is verbally confirmed by a State official charged with maintaining state birth records.

Why would one trust such verbal confirmation? When Hawaii Governor Neil Abercrombie has not found any documents to back up such verbal confirmation, you are not basing your argument on the reality of the matter.

The only document showing Zer0's Birth Certificate is a fake document generated by cut and paste techniques and photo shop. It would be poor research on your part if you were not familiar with that effort to throw off the American public with false information.

I have a quiz for you. Where was Barry and his mom the fall of 1961? Let's see if you can do some homework.

31 posted on 04/04/2011 4:53:15 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: curiosity
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56 posted on 04/05/2011 6:10:28 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: curiosity

The historical and INTERNATIONAL definition of Natural born citizen is: born under the sole jurisdiction of.

Your ignorance of history is showing.


60 posted on 04/05/2011 6:59:55 AM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: curiosity

“especially when said birth in the USA is verbally confirmed by a State official charged with maintaining state birth records.”

*yawn*

Let us know when that happens under oath or on an official State document. Until then, it is hearsay.


70 posted on 04/05/2011 11:08:45 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: curiosity
Finally, it's even crazier to make up a new definition of natural born citizenship that was clearly never employed in the entire history of the United States.

???

Anchor Baby 2012

94 posted on 04/05/2011 7:14:53 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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