Obama fails to qualify under Article II AND fails tests of the 12th, 20th, and 25th Amendments

drkatesview ^ | 04/03/2011 | drkate

[philman_36]

Any time we give ourselves power to interpret, we give the same power to the other side.
BTW...the matter was knowing what they meant. If what they meant is empirical and unequivocal then why is there a need to interpret?

[MindBender26]

Because we are making the assumption that the other Signers agreed with something more than they voted on.

That is a very dangerous assumption.

Look at the issue of “Well-regulated.” Many writings of the time hold that term means “official, state sanctioned,” like what we would call the National Guard today.

Look also at the FP? Do they object to arms bearing by convicted felons, felons on the run, those we would today call terrorists, do they differentiate between concealed and openly carried?

Remember, every time you are in court, with what one thinks are his overly convincing arguments, the other side is there with the same belief.

[philman_36]

Look at the issue of “Well-regulated.” Many writings of the time hold that term means “official, state sanctioned,” like what we would call the National Guard today.
Which writings are those?

[MindBender26]

Try Hamilton in # 29.

PS, end of discussion. My intent was only to show the black letter falisty of the post, not get into Con Law 101.

[philman_36]

No way in hell would a leftist use #29 as it explains "well regulated" in the second paragraph!
It requires no skill in the science of war to discern that uniformity in the organization and discipline of the militia would be attended with the most beneficial effects, whenever they were called into service for the public defense. It would enable them to discharge the duties of the camp and of the field with mutual intelligence and concert an advantage of peculiar moment in the operations of an army; and it would fit them much sooner to acquire the degree of proficiency in military functions which would be essential to their usefulness.
It's all about training as is all too obvious from the content!

[MindBender26]

One last pass here.

Two points:

#1 My post was about the incorrectness of the original post, not anything elase.

#2 Never put one extra word in a law, or other writen item for that matter. If 2 simply said "The people shall have the right to keep and bear arms,: it could not be attacked in the "puropse" issue.

#3: In #29, Hamilton wrote "If a well regulated militia be the most natural defence of a free country, it ought certainly to be under the regulation and at the disposal of that body which is constituted the guardian of the national security...confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority...(and) reserving to the states...the authority of training the militia".

Not good for us!

[philman_36]

JESUS CHRIST, MAN! How can you completely slide past the preceding paragraph and remove the context?!!!
You're wrong in so many ways for doing so.
Good day!

[philman_36]

confiding the regulation of the militia to the direction of the national authority...(and) reserving to the states...the authority of training the militia".

Then using just that portion (and the intended argument) the "regulation" in question would actually be legislation, such as The Militia Act of 1792.

[Godebert]

"HR 593 seems to deal the death blow to the entire “birther” phenomenon as it clearly states that it “Whereas the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii” It passed 378-0, with even Bachmann voting in the Affirmative."

It takes more than a congressional resolution to amend the Constitution. Article II, Section I of the Constitution is still the law of the land.

[Fresh Wind]

A “resolution” is not the same thing as a “law”.

To say something is the case is not the same thing as proving it.

To agree not to deal with an issue doesn’t make the issue irrelevant.

[MindBender26]

Of course I know it’s wromg.... but that what we lawyers do every day!

And that’s how liberal courts get the foundations they need to make the decisions they want to make in the first place!