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my tortured brain | 04/09/2011 | austingirl

Posted on 04/09/2011 8:42:31 AM PDT by austingirl

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To: MadIsh32
Per the Constitution, any bill that originates and passes in the House, also need to be passed by the Senate. Republicans control only the House, not the Senate. Thusly 1/2 of one branch of gov’t

Well call me stupid I guess.
White House 1/3
Senate 1/3
House 1/3

If Boehner can get the GOP to stand together (all 241 or 242 - whatever is the accurate count) then the GOP has control of 100% of the House and any appropriation bill will be passed.

What is the 1/2 of 1/3 ---I JUST DON'T GET WHAT IT MEANS?
41 posted on 04/09/2011 7:07:50 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: austingirl

“do you think they’ll print it?”

I think you knew the answer to that question before you asked.


42 posted on 04/09/2011 11:17:44 PM PDT by tarawa
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To: Cheerio

You are forgetting the Scotus. That is a branch of government.

Congress is a branch of government as is the White House.

1/2 of Congress is controlled by Republicans, hence 1/2 of 1/3


43 posted on 04/10/2011 2:34:34 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: austingirl; Man50D; Principled; EternalVigilance; phil_will1; kevkrom; Bigun; PeteB570; FBD; ...

Thank you! A most excellent rant! I agree wholeheartedly!


44 posted on 04/11/2011 1:33:21 PM PDT by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: austingirl
hey girl, post it on the internet so others can sign it. I will and I bet millions more will. Send the link to the bone heads in washington so they can log on every day and watch the number of signers grow.
45 posted on 04/11/2011 1:56:43 PM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: austingirl

Apparently you are operating under the misconception that the Reps are fiscally responsible and want smaller government.


46 posted on 04/11/2011 1:59:24 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Cheerio

White Hut.
Congress.
Courts.

I won’t call you stupid.


47 posted on 04/11/2011 2:03:12 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: austingirl

Agreed. Maybe it’ll happen after the big default. ;-)


48 posted on 04/11/2011 2:06:57 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: MadIsh32; austingirl

autingirl.....while I laud and agree with your sentiments entirely, MadIsh32 nailed it right off. We can’t get spit done until we ‘own’ the Senate and the WH as well as the House. That’s just a fact.

If nothing else, this should galvanize this country come November.


49 posted on 04/11/2011 2:28:55 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: austingirl
and what have YOU been doing for the past 30 years to see that we didn't end up with the people who now control our gov’t? And what are YOU doing right now - do you go to you local republican clubs, your country organization, serve on board, get elected to state conventions and help find, promote and get the best candidates elected?

Have you volunteered and worked on campaigns for your state and national reps and candidates?

I did all the above for decades.

Also, 30 years ago, as an investigative reporter, I infiltrated a ‘NO PRESS” meeting of the state's DSOC commies. (Democratic Socialist Organizing Committee.)

My story was a front page, center-fold story that laid out the Socialists scheme for taking over the government. The lead speaker was, at the time, our state's Senate Majority Leader - a ‘democrat.”

He stood at the podium, took a card from his pocket and said: “I, like you, am a card carrying Socialist.”

He then went on to lament the fact that their Knight in shining armor, Teddy K, had lost even their primary race. And then Reagan had just become president. This double blow had thrown a giant monkey wrench in their headlong rush to power.

The speaker, lamenting the setbacks, then said: “We will not now be able to come out as Socialists.” He then announced the new plan that they would be discussing: “We must infiltrate and take over the democratic party.”

That was 30 years ago. Where have you all been while they have been accomplishing this goal? (And can anyone deny their success?)

And now Boehaner is supposed to turn it all upside down in one fell swoop, with only one half of three houses?

Instead of trying to bury him and us along with him, how about getting your hiney’s out there - roll up your own sleeves and go to the meetings, join, volunteer, canvass.

Let's make damn sure he has the help he need down the road. And remember, until we DO get control of the senate too - and the WH - anything they CAN get done in the Congress, even though it sounds great, it can quickly drown in the Senate. If it also gets through the Senate, it can be vetoed by the POTUS.

So - you want things done? Find the new troops, get them elected, get them to Washington.

Naivete gets nothing done.

50 posted on 04/11/2011 2:53:56 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: austingirl

If you’re a Texan, you should know that circular firing squads aren’t the answer.

Save your power for the enemy.


51 posted on 04/11/2011 2:55:23 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("We stand together or we fall apart" mt)
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To: MadIsh32

There goes the ‘realistic’ thinking that they keep bringing up. Look, it is what it is and yes, technically you’re right. So what? The House is the ONLY agency that can enact legislation that is financial, period. The Senate is only allowed to vote on financial matters that House First passes. So, in the end, the HOUSE controls what gets put forth to the Senate and ultimately to what the President can either sign or Veto. So your argument, and thus Boehner’s, et al argument about caving is specious.


52 posted on 04/11/2011 2:57:16 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: austingirl
Instead of wasting your time and energy ranting against the people on your side, maybe you should focus your anger at who is to blame. The Obama Democrats

If you want to see who is most to blame, Look in the mirror. Those of you who spend all your time shooting your own political allies in the back rather then EVER spend any time fighting the Dems (who happen to be 100% opposed to your views)are the Democrat's best allies

53 posted on 04/11/2011 3:06:57 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: Gaffer
Your understanding of the political process is sophomoric. It not that simple grasshopper.

Instead of wasting your time and energy ranting against the people on your side, maybe you should focus your anger at who is to blame for blocking what you want, The Obama Democrats

However, if you want to see who is most to blame, look in the mirror.

Those, like you, who spend all your time, day after day after day, shooting your own political allies in the back rather then EVER spend any time fighting the Dems (who happen to be 100% opposed to your views)are the Democrat's best allies

54 posted on 04/11/2011 3:10:13 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: fatnotlazy
Too bad the shoot your own side in the back arm chair warriors still have not learned the hard facts.

US Politics is an evolutionary, not revolutionary, process. You will never get everything you want, and only what you want.

So instead of just sitting their spending all your time shooting your own political allies in the back, get off your butt and get in the game.

55 posted on 04/11/2011 3:14:28 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: MNJohnnie

Tell me oh self-appointed master, what was sophomoric about saying the house controls financial bills. You are trying to tell me the Senate can initiate such are you? If so, you’re the idiot. You can make excuses for them, our RINOs and professional POLITICIANS, but you’re gonna end up with the same thing the rest of us gets placing our hopes on them - squat. Go the hell away...and think of something original to say against the multiple posters you chide....same exact sentences in two cases....a case of lazy ass just like your heroes.


56 posted on 04/11/2011 3:17:36 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Prokopton
Imagine what the deficit would be if the democrats still controlled the House.

Frankly, I believe it would be about the same.

Then you are complete political imbecile who has utterly NO clue at all about what is going on currently in US Politics.

57 posted on 04/11/2011 3:22:55 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: Gaffer
So you really think you are helping?

You think spending all your time shooting your own side in the back "helps" move the political ball down the feild?

58 posted on 04/11/2011 3:27:44 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (The problem with Socialism is eventually you run out of other people's money. Lady Thatcher)
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To: MNJohnnie
I want my representatives to do what they say when they campaign. Making excuses for posers isn't something that I'm prone to. That's why we got Bush (BTW a great terrorist protector, but terrible fiscal controller - increased our budget immensely and didn't do a whole lot for freedom with all three branches in his grasp). That's why we got McCain (a poser all the way round liberal and I think, genuinely crazy person).

Finally, that's why we have Obama now. And, Boehner's performance and that of his excusers is why we will have Obama for a second term if they aren't called to the carpet. Yes, I'm mad - I'm damned mad. They squandered the one bullet they have in this fight and any talk about the 'next big fight' will turn out like this one. I'm damned disappointed and don't much cotton to being called sophomoric for explaining what is true just because one might not like the truth I speak.

59 posted on 04/11/2011 3:37:51 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: MadIsh32

True, EXCEPT that all spending comes from the House...that gives them an edge.

It is now time to pull out the big guns and let them have it.


60 posted on 04/11/2011 3:42:57 PM PDT by Adder (Part 1 Accomplished)
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