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Revealed: Obama's CT Social Security # Traced To John Paul Ludwig (Lived CT-Died HI)
Political Forum ^ | 3/14/2011 | Apuzzo

Posted on 04/10/2011 12:34:43 PM PDT by bkopto

This news is breaking: This is bad news for Obama.

This is what we know so far. We get more info on Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, had CT SSN obtained in 1976 and died in HI around 1981. There are 2 SS numbers for him and records show him dying in 2 different states: CA and HI around 1981.

The reason this is important, is because there is a similar fact pattern to Obama. Barack Obama is residing today in the White House, using CT SS number 042-68-4425, issued in CT in and around March 1977 to an elderly individual named John Paul Ludwig, who was born in 1890, who is presumed dead and whose death was either never reported to the SS administration or reported and deleted from the database by someone.

Obama's maternal grandmother Madelyn Dunham, worked as a part-timer or volunteer in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse. Thus she would have access to the estate files of anyone who died there. Thus if the elderly man originally from CT died intestate in Hawaii with no known relatives, Grandma Dunham would have known this person is a prime candidate to steal the SSN of since there would be no known surviving family worrying about the death benefit from SSN and that the benefit was not likely applied for and thus SSA did not know he died.

Thus the SSN remained active for the deceased person and Obama could "adopt" it as his own. This is a clear case of identity theft at the federal level.

This is what we know about Ludwig:

In 1924, Jean Paul Ludwig worked for Senator Reed of PA, in Washington DC.

On the ship manifest of ‘Leviathan’, he listed Senator Reed in Washington...

(Excerpt) Read more at politicalforum.com ...


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KEYWORDS: barry; birth; birthcertificate; certificate; certifigate; ct; felony; fraud; hawaii; hi; identitytheft; naturalborncitizen; obama; palin; socialsecurity; ssan
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To: bkopto; SvenMagnussen

Sven; you have covered this before, would you mind to commenting on this as well???

Lots of different links!!!


181 posted on 04/10/2011 9:37:22 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: bkopto

182 posted on 04/10/2011 9:42:38 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: yldstrk

He is evil ugly.


183 posted on 04/10/2011 9:43:09 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: windcliff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9QLFvjHg70&feature=related


184 posted on 04/10/2011 9:47:14 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: chicken head
" I've always said that his SS# would be what got him, back when the BC issue was goin on— its gonna get nasty from here out "

The Feds got Al Capone on Tax evasion.
185 posted on 04/10/2011 9:52:42 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: MHGinTN
"Anyone who cares enough about this to post here has to know that it is reasonably well established that "Barry" was "Obama" to his high school classmates." ml/nj"

Whether it's true or not is Urban legend.

He could have told the people he knew one thing, but, on his legal papers, he was a totally different person.
186 posted on 04/10/2011 9:54:45 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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To: LaybackLenny

Would not his SS# been on his Selective Service document?
That is out there and in a lawsuit.


187 posted on 04/10/2011 10:31:06 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood (.)
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To: research99
Well . . . .here is what I found in about an hour or so

Jean Paul Ludwig travelled a lot in Europe and England other places Then it switched to a Paul Ludwig b about 1890 Germany in and out everywhere

Then I found a WWII Draft Registration John Paul Ludwig High Ridge Road, New Canaan, Fairfield, CT PO Box 458 New Canaan CT Telephone skip it Age 52 Place of Birth Ammersville France Born February 17, 1890 Who will always know your name and address Florence Ludwig same address Employer's Name and Address S. A. Reed, New Cannan, CT

1920 Census

Florence C. Ludwig John Ludwig abt 1893 NY 1920 Manhattan Assembly District 21, New York, NY

1930 Census

Florence C. Ludwig John Ludwig abt 1892 1930 - Manhattan, New York, NY Edward Fitzgerald 63 Annie Fitzgerald 60 (parents of Florence)

Florida Divorce Records Ludwig, John P. Florence C. Dade County, 1946

A few more, rest are forms that messed up my document, will have to transcribe if and when I can get to it

Jean Paul Ludwig State: Pennsylvania District Court Western District, Pennsylvania Record 73930 Description (Roll 396) Petitions 73801-74200 Archive National Archives, Washington, DC Naturalization Petititions of the U.S. District Court, 2810-1930 and Circuit Court, 1820-1911, for the Western District of Pennsylvania Archive Series M1537 Archive Roll 396

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

John Paul Ludwig abt 1891 Rangoon, Burma Southampton, England Ports of Voyage Port Said Ship Name Mauretania Shipping line: Henderson Line Official Number 124249

UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960

Birth abt 1890 Age 40 Port of Departure New York, NY US Arrival Date 17 Jan 1930 Port of Arrival Plymouth, England Ship Name George Washington Shipping line US Line Official Number 215447

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Jean Ludwig Arrival Date 9 Sep 1923 Birth abt 1890 Birth Location France Location Other rimmeersville (sic) Age 33 Gender Male Ethnicity/Race French Port of Departure Genoa, Italy Port of Arrival New York NY Ship Name Conte Verde

Quite a few more then switched to Paul Ludwig same age, b Germany, may be coincidental.

Following are some Harvard archives

http://www.archive.org/stream/1911report02harvuoft/1911report02harvuoft_djvu.txt

CANADA

Chambly Canton, (Quehec). H. C. Wells. Cobalt, (Ontario). F. W. Young. Welland, (Ontario). S. A. Reed. (Harvard Class of 1911 per google books) Murdoch, Richard (1912) Myer, William Henry (1912) Nash, Russell Kimball ^Neal, Albert Durant* Phelan, Maurice Edward Piel, Paul Michael Reed, Stephen Alexander Sabine, Stephen Webb Savery, James (Cox) (1914) Schiller, Avery Reubens Shapleigh, Samuel Chandler Spofford, Harry Herbert Raw- son Sprague, Henry Bancroft * Squibb, George Sampson Strieker, Eli Henry Taylor, John Mackintire * Thompson, Edward Josiah

CANADA

Chambly Canton, (Quehec). H. C. Wells. Cobalt, (Ontario). F. W. Young. Welland, (Ontario). S. A. Reed.

188 posted on 04/10/2011 10:45:25 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: SvenMagnussen; danamco
Yes, Sven, I too would like to hear your thoughts... I have admired your soothsaying (or maybe it is insider information?) about Obama's application for an Connecticut SSN...

You preveiously said this...

Let’s see Obama’s Form 5, Application for Social Security Number. Form 5 gives the applicant a choice of filing as a U.S. Citizen or a Legal Resident (Green card holder).

Did Obama identify himself as a U.S. Citizen or a Legal Resident when he filed for his SSN?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2685853/posts?page=3#3

Could you please point out where on the SS-5 application a person identifies himself as a Citizen vs a Legal Resident/(Green card holder) ??

Or would they have used a DIFFERENT version of this form if it had been an American Refugee Organization (ARO) based in Connecticut that had filled out the SSN application on his behalf?

I am convinced something on his application would be dreadfully embarassing (if not worse) to Obama, ...but what?


189 posted on 04/10/2011 10:52:03 PM PDT by Future Useless Eater (Chicago politics = corrupted capitalism = takeover by COMMUNity-ISM)
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To: Jim Noble

There has been absolutely no evidence ever shown that 0bama had a legal American passport in 1981.


190 posted on 04/10/2011 11:02:31 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: research99
iIf you don’t want to probe public records, then just do an internet search of Jean Ludwig

I did and posted a whole slew of stuff to you and have more passenger records. I think I went on a wild goose chase with that but whatever. The SSN, what was it supposed link to? Wife confirmed as you will have seen. Divorced.

191 posted on 04/10/2011 11:05:56 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: TigerClaws

Dang it!

I work all day and come home to find all these posts about MuBarak!

Thanks. I’ll be until 2am.

You done did some crazy posting today.

Thank you.


192 posted on 04/10/2011 11:47:57 PM PDT by Vendome ("Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it anyway")
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To: windcliff

Wow! I wasn’t going to eat so late (3:22am) but I think I’ll make a sandwich and make some popcorn.


193 posted on 04/11/2011 12:31:23 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: bkopto

How do you connect the 2 ss numbers. I have seen nothing that shows a picture of Obamas SS card that can match this guy’s ss#.


194 posted on 04/11/2011 2:25:25 AM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: bkopto

btrl


195 posted on 04/11/2011 3:20:27 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: LucyT; BP2; rxsid; null and void; Candor7

Ping to 153


196 posted on 04/11/2011 4:13:25 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: Future Useless Eater

The following is directly from SSN death records:

Name: Jean Ludwig
SSN: 045-26-8722
Last Residence: 96816 Honolulu, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States of America
Born: 17 Feb 1890
Last Benefit: 96816 Honolulu, Honolulu, Hawaii, United States of America
Died: Jun 1981
State (Year) SSN issued: Connecticut (1951)

Name: Jean Paul Ludwig
Social Security #: 045268722
Sex: Male
Birth Date: 17 Feb 1890
Birthplace: Other Country
Death Date: 19 Jun 1981
Death Place: San Luis Obispo
Mother’s Maiden Name: Salome

Name: John Ludwig
SSN: 287-03-4875
Last Residence: 95123 San Jose, Santa Clara, California, United States of America
Born: 27 May 1890
Died: Mar 1977
State (Year) SSN issued: Ohio (Before 1951)

Name: John Ludwig
SSN: 345-12-0088
Last Residence: 60465 Palos Hills, Cook, Illinois, United States of America
Born: 3 Dec 1890
Died: Oct 1976
State (Year) SSN issued: Illinois (Before 1951)

Just for the record:

Social Security Death Index

Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries

Name: John Ludwig
Birth: 27 May 1890
Death: Mar 1977 - San Jose, Santa Clara, California, United States of America
Civil: Ohio

Social Security Death Index

Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries

Name: John Ludwig
Birth: 26 May 1890
Death: Feb 1978 - Jamestown, Boone, Indiana, United States of America
Civil: Indiana

Social Security Death Index

Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries

Name: John Ludwig
Birth: 3 Dec 1890
Death: Oct 1976 - Palos Hills, Cook, Illinois, United States of America
Civil: Illinois

Social Security Death Index

Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries

Name: John Ludwig
Birth: 5 May 1890
Death: Feb 1970 - Platteville, Grant, Wisconsin, United States of America
Civil: Wisconsin

Social Security Death Index

Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries

Name: John Ludwig
Birth: 18 May 1890
Death: Aug 1966 - Baton Rouge, East Baton Rouge, Louisiana, United States of America
Civil: Louisiana

Social Security Death Index

Death, Burial, Cemetery & Obituaries

Name: John Ludwig
Birth: 24 Jan 1890
Death: Mar 1968 - Valley Springs, Calaveras, California, United States of America
Civil: California


197 posted on 04/11/2011 5:21:12 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Electric Graffiti; All

I wonder if ludwig also got a colb from Hawaii ?


198 posted on 04/11/2011 5:49:31 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: Future Useless Eater

Another photo-shopped picture 1961. A huge baby, LOL???

http://papundits.wordpress.com/2008/12/07/exclusive-photo-showing-infant-obama-in-kenya-found/


199 posted on 04/11/2011 6:53:17 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: TheBigJ

http://wtpotus.wordpress.com/2011/02/01/shirley-we-hardly-knew-ye-open-thread/

The article linked above shows that multiple sources gave his mother’s name as Shirley, before she suddenly became Stanley. The source of the original “Shirley” story is as yet unknown.

His “mother” went by S. Ann Dunham in later years. A signature “Stanley” might look like “Shirley” to someone who’s unfamiliar with the person being selected as a mother figure and if the person expects the selected one’s name to be feminine, not masculine.

How could she be “Shirley” for so long and yet there’s no “correction” to be found for this “error”, especially any statement from the son to correct the record?


200 posted on 04/11/2011 8:44:22 AM PDT by Greenperson
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