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John Boehner Must Go
http://www.TableOfWisdom.com ^ | 4/10/2011 | by Scott Ryan

Posted on 04/10/2011 8:44:39 PM PDT by publius321

What I’m hearing all over the news is that the “leaders” of the Democrat Party are claiming victory and the Republican Party “leaders” are claiming victory in last week’s short term budget battle.

The fact is that they are both right. They both won. The only losers in this deal are the American people and the Republic for which we stand.

In the short run it was a great achievement for ambitious politicians who fantasize about their place in history. In the long run it will not matter what they did because the way things are going, someone else, Communist China most likely, will be writing the history books; so posterity will scarcely know who they were.

I hear some of the posers on the right as they attempt to put some lipstick on this pig but the more I ruminate on the matter, the more disgusted I become.

I’m tired of being... (continued)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: allen; boehner; reid; west

1 posted on 04/10/2011 8:44:40 PM PDT by publius321
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To: publius321

2 posted on 04/10/2011 8:52:12 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: publius321
John Boehner Must Go

Agreed and the sooner the better.

3 posted on 04/10/2011 8:52:43 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Bean Counter

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4 posted on 04/10/2011 8:52:59 PM PDT by publius321
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To: publius321
Amen.

This was already lost when Boehner was selected as Speaker.

He a compromising survivor, not an ideological leader. And, I repeat, he has so many scandalous skeletons in his DC closet, that he is susceptible to Democrat "blackmail." Bit of a social butterfly, our Johnny. Been known to have the drink taken, and quite the gallant with the fair sex.

The guy is no good. His highest and best use was as a backbench wheeler-dealer with a vote for sale: great lobbyist material, lousy legislator.

5 posted on 04/10/2011 8:54:18 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (Qadafi and Obama share a common advantage. No organized opposition.)
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To: publius321

6 posted on 04/10/2011 8:56:34 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: publius321
Nobody likes a crybaby.

Hire Trump to negotiate with Reid.

7 posted on 04/10/2011 8:57:18 PM PDT by Prokopton
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To: publius321

I say Boehner STEP DOWN NOW!!! NOW!!!


8 posted on 04/10/2011 9:00:50 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: publius321

Come on folks! Just who do you want in charge? He has done a decent job so far against 2/3rds of the government. What do you expect under the circumstances?


9 posted on 04/10/2011 9:01:20 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: publius321

Yep.


10 posted on 04/10/2011 9:01:53 PM PDT by allmost
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To: publius321

Crying man, needs to go NOW and whoever put that drunk on us as well.


11 posted on 04/10/2011 9:03:57 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: publius321

Sorry, but you are just being against any advances. He has done a great job against 2/3rds of the opposition.

Just what did you expect? (or hope for?)


12 posted on 04/10/2011 9:04:09 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Descent Job ??? By what standards - Giving away the store standards ... Good Grief...


13 posted on 04/10/2011 9:04:47 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: ICCtheWay

Damn...just where are you anyway? He has forced the Congress to actually decrease spending for the first time in my history... - the first in a decade or more, what do you want anyway? Maybe a trillion decrease in spending - good luck with that.

Get with some minimal decreases to start with with ever increasing decreases in the future... at least it is going in the right direction!


14 posted on 04/10/2011 9:08:41 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Good angle. Too little, too late right now.


15 posted on 04/10/2011 9:10:12 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Deagle
“Come on folks! Just who do you want in charge? He has done a decent job so far against 2/3rds of the government. What do you expect under the circumstances?”

Someone,anyone who does not wilt and cry,a person with fire in the belly,This guy has been a disgrace since somehow he got that job and the playing patty cake with the Rat's at the SOU was infuriating and weak also asking that witch faced scaly Pelosi to join him!!!!!!!!!!!! get out John and take your Kleenex and wine bottles.

16 posted on 04/10/2011 9:12:39 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: Deagle

“Sorry, but you are just being against any advances. He has done a great job against 2/3rds of the opposition.

Just what did you expect? (or hope for?)”

Balls. These are the same kinds of lame excuses we heard from the RINOS when we had all 3 branches. The precedent has been set. No balls.


17 posted on 04/10/2011 9:14:15 PM PDT by publius321
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To: Deagle
He has done a decent job so far against 2/3rds of the government.

I guess you would be right if we ignored the fact that Boehner's branch which he leads is 100% of the spending bills and taxing authority under the US Constitution.

When you consider that, Boehner appears very weak. He has to go.

18 posted on 04/10/2011 9:16:43 PM PDT by tsowellfan
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To: allmost

Actually, you may be right! We really have to decrease our spending by much more to sustain our credit rating.

The problem is that this Congress (Senate - President) do NOT understand that we are in dire straits...

So, the only thing that we can do is to limit what we can and hope for both a Senate vote and a Presidential vote to get total control. Only then will we be able to save the country...

Actually, the only hope for the country is for the election of Senators and a President that cares... Good luck with our current ignorant electorate...


19 posted on 04/10/2011 9:17:27 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

Rinse, repeat.


20 posted on 04/10/2011 9:19:25 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Deagle

It is just NOT ENOUGH... !!! NOT ENOUGH !!! Boehner is a PUSSY - plain and simple... RINO Compromise will NEVER DO - NEVER!!! Liberal Democrats NEVER compromise - Weak Butt Republicans like Boehner just give away the store... STOP COMPROMISING with the Democrat Party THAT NEVER COMPROMISES - the only compromising is done by WEAK A$$ed Republicans Like Boehner — Mr. Boner is a BONER .... Enough ALREADY!!!


21 posted on 04/10/2011 9:21:08 PM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: allmost

Okay, our only hope is to elect a Republican President and a Republican majority in the Senate. Do you really think that it will resolve the problem? These folks are politicians and they will continue to fight the effort to reduce the budget when it effects their constituents.

The future continues to look bleak regardless of what happens in the 1012 election. That is both a constant and a promise. We are doomed either way it seems...


22 posted on 04/10/2011 9:24:08 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

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23 posted on 04/10/2011 9:26:06 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Deagle
The problem is that this Congress (Senate - President) do NOT understand that we are in dire straits...

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Spot on Deagle!

And a lot of RINOs.

Paul Ryan wants to cut $6 trillion over the next 10 years. If it took several months to agree to a mere $39 billion, (less than 1% of the budget), how long will it take to get agreement on $6 trillion?

Massive federal spending is important to Democrats because it buys them power by funneling tax dollars into the pockets of their union backers, and by creating a culture of dependency that serves only to build their voter base. These lib parasite groups are panicked about being thrown off the gravy train.

Get ready folks, this fight has just begun, and it will certainly become more interesting in the next few months. Be prepared for outlandish claims of the evil intentions of Republicans, and for violence and a complete disregard for the rule of law when the left does not get its way.

CowboyREID2sm

''The mean-spirited bill, H.R. 1, eliminates National Public Broadcasting," said Reid in a floor speech. "It eliminates the National Endowment of the Humanities, National Endowment of the Arts. These programs create jobs. The National Endowment of the Humanities is the reason we have in northern Nevada every January a cowboy poetry festival. Had that program not been around, the tens of thousands of people who come there every year would not exist.''

The federal budget for 2011 calls for spending of $3.819 trillion and a deficit of $1.645 trillion. Both numbers are the largest in U.S. history.


24 posted on 04/10/2011 9:28:29 PM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: allmost

Like your response! heh...


25 posted on 04/10/2011 9:29:26 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

I don’t like/trust a guy that cant handle his chosen job. Cry all you want. On the clock?


26 posted on 04/10/2011 9:33:27 PM PDT by allmost
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To: BobP

I have little hope for the future! Heck, they could cut almost everything and still be running a deficit - what do you do then?

Gloomy is a good outlook...


27 posted on 04/10/2011 9:35:00 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle

“He has done a decent job so far against 2/3rds of the government.”

You call being a doormat to the liberals a “decent job”?


28 posted on 04/10/2011 9:35:59 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: Deagle

“Actually, the only hope for the country is for the election of Senators and a President that cares

It’s not even a matter of “caring” when it comes to the Saboteur we have as President. He cares - aabout destroying this country from within. He’s a very effective President. He’s effective at Sabotage.


29 posted on 04/10/2011 9:38:49 PM PDT by publius321
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To: CodeToad; All

Somebody who knows how to paste this video should do us the honor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns5W1dAk_T0

It is time to fulfill Col. Allen West’s request to Pelosi - and Mr. Boehner, “Give me that Daned gavel”.

It’s TIME.


30 posted on 04/10/2011 9:43:29 PM PDT by publius321
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To: CodeToad

You’re way to depressive(?) here... He made a decent deal with what he had and still has much to go.. You are being way to pessimistic with the outcome. I don’t like the deal either, but considering the alternatives, he did very good.

You can’t continue to expect the best when we only control the Congress - Senate and Presidency not ours.. You should be thanking your lucky stars that we were able to at least stem the outrageous spending of the Democrats...

More to come...


31 posted on 04/10/2011 9:43:49 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: publius321
I’m tired of being... (continued)

Makes two of us.

32 posted on 04/10/2011 9:45:26 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Deagle

We have already lost the fight against raising the debt ceiling. We just approved a budget that increases the debt in excess of the current ceiling. How can we now argue that the ceiling should not be raised?


33 posted on 04/10/2011 9:50:52 PM PDT by excopconservative
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To: Larry Lucido

Great!... and what are you going to do about it?


34 posted on 04/10/2011 9:51:05 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Bean Counter
2012....give him some more conservatives to work with, and then I will judge him...we have been reading this stuff on here forever.

We couldn't beat Reid. Wisconsin and Ohio are looking better, Illinois is going to the other extreme..let's make our case and see what happens...might even elect a different speaker...

35 posted on 04/10/2011 9:53:04 PM PDT by lawnguy (The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil-Cicero)
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To: Deagle

He did a lousy job. Horrible. He didn’t even negotiate much less talk about anything of significance. A measly 12 hours of federal spending? A mere 0.137% of the total budget? He held this nation’s spending at bay for that???

He caved and caved big. All it took was Obama threatening to veto something and Bonehead caved. When Bush would say he might veto something the Democrats rammed it down his throat. They called his bluff and got their way.

When Obama claimed the military wouldn’t get funding I’d have passed the military appropriations bill, jammed it into Obama’s face and publicly dared him to veto it. He might have, for about half a day, until the public turned on him. Bonehead didn’t have the guts. He is a DC polidiot and entrenched in the swill.


36 posted on 04/10/2011 9:53:37 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: excopconservative

Not sure that is true! Might be, but I will have to wait for Congress to act. Actually, I hope that they vote NO on raising the limit and continue with decreases in spending to allow for that... is that a dream? No, that will NOT cause a default of our debt!

Oh well, if it does pass, I hope that Republicans fight the increases eery step.... Yeah, I know, that is a pipe dream.


37 posted on 04/10/2011 9:55:26 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Reagan Man

If the teaparty didnt signoff on these leaders then they are not what we are looking for.2012 needs to clean out a bunch more of these rinos and crybaby and mcconnel should be on that list.AT THE TOP of that list.


38 posted on 04/10/2011 9:56:14 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Deagle

What a crowd of whiners and quitters have been posting on this subject. Talk about crybabies!


39 posted on 04/10/2011 10:04:56 PM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Liberty and Union, Now and Forever, One and Inseparable -- Daniel Webster)
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To: CodeToad

Yes, he did have problems... not getting the military out of the problem was definitely key.

As to other problems, I say he did well for the problems that he faced. That is okay that you disagree - many Democrats also disagree (sorry, not trying to mix you with them)... just that many will and do disagree...

I can only say that I think that he did a good job within the parameters that he had to work. That is of course the problem as seen by the media...

He did the best political job that he could do under the circumstances (says he - I wanted better)...


40 posted on 04/10/2011 10:05:01 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Deagle
Boehner has already said that he will not use a government "shutdown" in negotiations, so what does he have to use when it comes to the debt ceiling battle? The only way things will change in Washington is for a new party to form that rejects the Beltway way of doing business. The Republicans and Democrats are both making sure that the size and scope of government doesn't recede, the rest is just bread and circuses for the fools that support both parties.
41 posted on 04/10/2011 10:12:04 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Redistribution = theft.)
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To: Deagle

We are forecast to hit the debt ceiling in mid-May. We have just approved a budget that runs through Sept. 30th. Boehner knew this debt would exceed the debt ceiling and would make the debt ceiling debate mute. He caved on two issues with one vote.


42 posted on 04/10/2011 10:13:11 PM PDT by excopconservative
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Hey, I think that they wish that things were better - ie, a balanced budget! Now wouldn’t that be something worth celebrating? These folks really just want someone and somewhere to expound their ideas. Goodness knows that they are not only right but the basis of society... We can only hope that they succeed...


43 posted on 04/10/2011 10:13:55 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: Major Matt Mason

Yep. the future is now what Boehner does, not what he had done in the past. I agree that his time is now and how he handles it is key! I have given him grace for the past, but it is not time to step up and take charge.

Willing to give him comfort, but only if he does the right thing...and he knows what is right! If he does not do the right thing - the Tea Party will bring him to bear...

Waiting with baited breath...heh...


44 posted on 04/10/2011 10:20:58 PM PDT by Deagle
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To: excopconservative

Hope that does not happen...but we do need to vote NO on this and continue reductions in spending... The chances of this happening are nil...


45 posted on 04/10/2011 10:25:41 PM PDT by Deagle
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...Come on folks! Just who do you want in charge? He has done a decent job so far against 2/3rds of the government. What do you expect under the circumstances?...

That may be true, but you *do* know that the House controls %100 of the spending bills, right? Check your old high-school govt textbook and look up the House's role in fiscal matters. At the very least, without the house's agreement, it does not pass.

Boehner caved, just like he always does. The GOP caved, just like they always do. Boehner just PROVED to the Dems that he won't go all in and will fold. The DEMS now know just what Boehner's pressure-points are to make him fold.

We now know what to expect when it comes time for the Debt-Ceiling and 2012-Budget fights. There won't be much a fight. Boehner will surrender the battle as soon as the dems land the first, glancing blow. Better set your expectations low so you won't be disappointed.

For instance, one of the Dems primary positions in the recent CR battle (if you can call it a battle) was funding for abortions over funding for troops and they didn't budge. Boehner and the GOP didn't even try to attack that position. Totally clueless. They just let it slide. Did you hear *ANY* GOP leader passionately attack that position? I sure didn't. They won't fight, even when presented with such an easily attacked position. Case closed.

Nothing will change as long as the GOP (as a political organization) influences who is in leadership positions; who chairs committees; how primaries are conducted; etc.

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. The GOP has plenty of established history of "ultimately surrendering" that we can learn from (but we won't). The GOP needs to go the way of the Whigs (but it won't). We need a replacement party (not a third-party); but conventional wisdom precludes that ever happening.

I don't have the answer, but the status-quo *clearly* ain't working. God help us.
46 posted on 04/11/2011 5:45:07 AM PDT by jaydee770
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To: lawnguy

You’re exactly right. We only started the job of cleaning house in 2010, and there is plenty more to do in 2012 and 2014. Boehner isn’t the perfect Speaker but he will do for now.


47 posted on 04/11/2011 5:45:44 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: ICCtheWay
A number of freepers have consumed the Kool-Aid believing that Boehner has conservatives backs.

“You look like a fool,” Tea Party Nation founder Judson Phillips wrote in a post on the group’s website, directing his message at the Ohio Republican. “Charlie Sheen is now making more sense than John Boehner.” Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/50576.html#ixzz1JJPhodLZ

48 posted on 04/12/2011 5:49:23 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: jaydee770

Actually, I am leaning toward your position. He has NOT sustained my belief in the Republican party so far.

Am beginning to think third party as blasphemous as that seems...


49 posted on 04/14/2011 9:52:12 PM PDT by Deagle
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