Posted on 04/12/2011 9:47:14 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
I love Cain. If he’s in the race when I vote he’ll get my primary vote.
If not, it’ll be Trump (if he’s in), and if Trump’s not in...I’ll write in someone, or reluctantly vote for Sarah.
Ding ding ding ding!
You’re NOT fired.
I’m still waiting for Alan Keyes
Interesting times...
Right. If the Repubs put up a yawner like McCain who was not serious in winning, chances of losing greatly increase.
The thing is, although I don’t think it would happen (see post 75), Trump is the one guy who probably COULD win as an independent.
If you want to discount ten year old quotes then vote for Romney. He's been a conservative for years now, just ask him.
I believe you're right -- at least for a segment of the "conservative" base. And the fact that he's getting traction from it, speaks volumes about the intellectual capacity of that portion of the "conservative" base. He's selling something (cynically, I think), and they're buying.
He's taking populist positions ....
And that, I think, points to where Trump's support is really coming from. What you're calling a "conservative" base, seems to be much more a populist sort of movement than a conservative one. Politically and in mindset, I think Trump's target audience has a lot in common with the group that went for Perot back in '92.
I suspect, too, that Trump is drawing support from same demographic that both Palin and Huckabee draw from. It's just that his media footprint is so much larger, and so much better-established (over decades) that he can take his schtick to a broader audience.
It's fun to watch, I admit ... but it's not the sort of thing that will get him nominated, much less elected.
I agree with you assessment, the idea of running as a third party candidate, is thrown out there by him to emphasize his belief that his views are more important than the party. IMO, that is a positive. I absolutely HATE the Republican AND Democrat parties. Strict adherence to party discipline is why people that may believe in the same philosophy, will fight on an issue, to the death, even though they would flip votes if their guy were pushing it.
yawn.
No, thanks. He’s not winning me over. Ever.
Yawn.
If he goes indie, he's not in it to win, unless handing the election to Obama is considered a "win."
February 2011 or last year, BFD! At this point, Trump will say anything. FWIW --- and just for laughs --- lets see you post Trump's sourced quote from last year where he stated, I am pro-life. Someone told me last week it was several years ago that Trump had his come to Jesus moment. Obviously, you'll believe anything Trump says.
>>>>>And honestly, the abortion issue, while important, is not going to decide this election.
That goes triple for the BC issue.
Truth is, Trump could never get pro-life conservatives and traditionalists to support him. Evangelicals will not even consider him. Since pro-life forces are a majority in the GOP, I doubt Trump could win the primary nomination.
Trump's last minute epiphany can not be taken seriously by rational folks.
An often repeated myth, Perot cost Bush the election. The exit polls showed that the SECOND CHOICE FOR PRESIDENT IN 1992 WAS BILL CLINTON. If Perot is not in the race, Clinton wins with a larger edge. Look it up, it doesn't fit the narrative that the parties want you to follow, but it is true. What part of the R's and D's are just the left and right wings of a Socialist bird doesn't anyone understand?
True, the TEA party is attempting to steer the party to a Constitutional stance, but the R's are still miles away.
Oh.. it’s you.
I was in another thread sticking up for Sarah Palin while you go around bashing fellow republicans.
“Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican. It’s a rule I followed during that campaign and have ever since.” Ronald Reagan’s Eleventh Commandment
Not really- but I’ll tell you one thing, once you remove the RINOs from the GOP field, there’s not many there who can withstand the withering attacks on the way from the Left.
Trump can- and he’s fiscally conservative enough to fix the country. I actually believe he offers the best ideas and enthusiasm on economy/deficit reduction I’ve heard... and other real conservatives I like, such as Palin and Bachmann, don’t have any resume in business whatsover.
If Trump can win, he is a decent conservative candidate in my book, Pawlenty will get killed, no Huckster, Newt no way... who’s left?
Go get em Trump
Pro-gun (Nope. On record as supporting a ban on "assault rifles -- VERY open to interpretation -- along with waiting periods.
Full repeal of ObamaCare (This is the most amazing one. He's on record as supporting universal health care)
Reduced foreign aid (To whom? Gonna screw over Israel in the process?)
Supports a fair trade policy and believes generally that the People's Republic of China should be considered more of an adversarial competitor, subjected to significant import tariffs as a response to China's currency policy in order to help balance the U.S. budget. (Yeah, that'll go over well with the country that holds much of our debt)
Believes the U.S. should disengage in Iraq and Afghanistan (Just surrender? What's the disengagement PLAN?)
When Trump first posed the ‘birth’ question, I thought “This is going to be good”! I never thought it would really grow as much as it has.
But he has caught the attention of the entire country, and while doing so has gone beyond his first challenge and widened the attack on O. Also — while doing so, he has explained where he stands on issues that really gave me pause. There was a good brain at work here, and he does it with a manner of confidence and without PC BS.
I’m watching him with great interest now, especially if the Arizona Birther Bill goes thru.
Good analysis, an logical too.
And even THAT is a stretch for Trump. IIRC, Perot, for all his faults, didn't play chameleon to suit the week.
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