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Donald Trump is Winning Me Over... and Quick
Reaganite Republican ^ | April 12, 2011 | Reaganite Republican

Posted on 04/12/2011 9:47:14 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican

"I don't hear (Team Obama) talking about Mr Pawlenty 
or anybody else... they're only talking about Trump"


Donald Trump is already claiming to be the one Barack Obama fears the most, and based upon the telling cheap shot that 
David Plouffe -of DNC Troll Patrol fame- took last weekend on Face the Nation... he may be right.

Trump's people are now investigating Obama's well-shrouded background, employing "great resources... looking into it very seriously". Like the seasoned competitor and showman that he is, The Donald also makes sure to let loose a daily round or two himself to keep that Trump name on the front pages whilst he chips away steadily at the false Obama narrative...
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Recent noteworthy quotes:

"I am very conservative"

"I'm Barack Obama's worst nightmare"

"I am a Christian... I believe in God"

"I think the Bible is, certainly, it is THE book"

"China is running away with our jobs, they're just doing a number on us like never before."

"Libya! a total mess- I mean, the man is doing a terrible job as president"

"(Obama) has no control over OPEC because they don't respect him"

"You're going to see your gasoline for your car be six, seven, 
and eight dollars a gallon very soon"

"Just show us the (Obama long-form BC) proof"

"I like how now (Obama) says 'we have to work on the budget'- where the heck has he been for the last two years?"

"Here's a guy who's never done a deal in his life, except with Tony Rezko..."

"His grandmother said very clearly he was born in Kenya... 
until all the handlers went crazy"

"...why is his family arguing over which hospital he was born in? 
They don't even know..."

"Let the ObamaCare case go straight to the Supreme Court"

"The last person they want to run against is me... and I know that from a fact, from people who are very close to Obama"

"I will tell you this: the country's not respected... it's poorly run... we're a laughing stock throughout the world..."

"There are a lot of things we can do to reduce that deficit... 
and I mean in a hurry"

"I would love to take (Obama) on"

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Trump 2012...?

Truth be told, the knee-jerk reaction was negative... then I started thinking: I want a real fighter to rip into Obama hard while also a true conservative we can depend on to swing a mean budget axe... willing to go on the offensive to unseat this heinous regime in the most aggressive fashion possible.  Otherwise, the unholy Prog/MSM alliance will simply chew us up... much as they've already done to Palin, sadly.

But it's not just the debt, and of all our numerous simultaneous crises the economy is the one likely to make or break the 2012 election, barring a terrorist attack or other momentous event. 

Who do we have running (or thinking about it) that possesses the acumen for jump-starting entrepreneurs and small business? We can't affford to fail this time, the country's on the financial ropes. Besides Donald Trump, maybe Mitt Romney... but I'd take Trump over him or any similar RINO in a New York minute- wouldn't you? 

Clearly Trump would fight like a tiger... and have fun doing it, a key to success in any endeavor.  Add to that essential quality his business background, powerful name recognition, winning take-no-prisoners style and true conservative platform (below)... I'm going to give the guy a real serious look... if he can beat Obama, I can't say I'd have any real issues with a Trump presidency.

He also has vast experience dealing with politicians of all stripes -both domestic and international- and I doubt any personal baggage 3x married Trump brings will make a difference this time- the country is scared, and seeks a firm hand bringing practical solutions stat.

Trump has stated he'll "probably" run as an independent if denied the GOP nomination... so we all better get used to the idea of a Trump 2012 campaign- seems a near certainty.

The balance of any Trump platform might be expected to look a little something like this, based on prior statements...
more conservative than expected? That was my impression:

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  • Pro-life
  • Pro-gun
  • Full repeal of ObamaCare
  • Reduced foreign aid
  •  Supports a fair trade policy and believes generally that the People's Republic of China should be considered more of an adversarial competitor, subjected to significant import tariffs as a response to China's currency policy in order to help balance the U.S. budget.
  • Believes the U.S. should disengage in Iraq and Afghanistan
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Great WSJ interview/more at Reaganite Republican


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; gotrump; obama; oneborneveryminute; patriottrump; platform; trump; trump4america; trump4trump; trump4truth
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1 posted on 04/12/2011 9:47:22 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
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To: Reaganite Republican
Donald just wants Barry gone.

Who can argue with that?

2 posted on 04/12/2011 9:49:24 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Trump on the issues.

Just to put it in comparison, here is Rudy's policy chart.

..and Bill Clinton's chart

From ontheissues.org He is way closer to Bill Clinton than he is someone we all agree is a RINO. Heck, on a straight right/left paradigm, he is almost identical to Bill Clinton.


3 posted on 04/12/2011 9:50:24 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Reaganite Republican

Well...the flip-side is that you talk about Trump and Palin as the front runnners and you reduce the stature of the fiscal heavyweights in the Republican field. That said, I’m voting against Obama...I don’t care who he faces.


4 posted on 04/12/2011 9:50:41 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

In before the “he’s not that conservative” posts. Not as much on some issues, and perhaps a recent convert on others, but I’ve been saying he’s basically the ultimate tea partier for this reason:

I’ve read his books and followed him over the years. He’s pretty consistent on a few key issues, such as foreign policy, trade, and overall fiscal viewpoint, save for his brain fart on nationalized healthcare, which he seems to have given up in favor of allowing insurance across state lines.

He hasn’t flipped as much as we think. He’s a typical non-political business type who only cares about a few issues and has relatively little ideology otherwise, but he seems to have had an awakening the last couple years, thanks to Obama. There are a lot of issues he’s probably been rather fuzzy on for a long time, because he just never really thought about them that much until now.

Forget he’s a businessman and media personality for a minute, and forget he’s filthy rich.

Doesn’t he now sound like a lot of people we all know? People who vote, swing voters in many cases, who were always somewhat conservative, but never gave it enough thought to truly know what they were, until recently, when they saw the damage Obama was doing? Isn’t that how the Tea Party movement got started?

Trump is the ultimate tea partier.


5 posted on 04/12/2011 9:50:58 AM PDT by RockinRight (Trump doesn't play stalking horse for anybody.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Is there any doubt that the words Trump is speaking
are resonating with the American public

and therefore feared by the MSM and the
Communist/Marxist/alQaeda in power?


6 posted on 04/12/2011 9:50:58 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Those who would repeat the past must control the teaching of history. - Bene Gesserit Coda)
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To: Reaganite Republican

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2703454/posts


7 posted on 04/12/2011 9:50:59 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (You knew the job was dangerous when you took it.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

That’d be just great if I believed a single thing Trump says NOWADAYS.


8 posted on 04/12/2011 9:51:21 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Now he’s talking Third Party if he doesn’t get the GOP nomination and that makes him dangerous, IMO.


9 posted on 04/12/2011 9:52:44 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Reaganite Republican

He’s winning me over along with my other Republican family and friends. I guess we prefer strong men with a pair.


10 posted on 04/12/2011 9:52:47 AM PDT by bella1 (Leaning Towards Trump)
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To: Reaganite Republican

"Brody File Exclusive: Donald Trump Explains Pro-Life Conversion"

http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2011/04/08/brody-file-exclusive-donald-trump-explains-pro-life-conversion.aspx

11 posted on 04/12/2011 9:52:47 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Reaganite Republican

A little bit ago I heard an ad for Oreilly tonight. He is going to explore allegations that Obama has covered up his college and other records.

Does anyone believe this would be happening sans Trump?


12 posted on 04/12/2011 9:53:18 AM PDT by freespirited (Truth is the new hate speech. -- Pamela Geller)
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To: dawn53
Now he’s talking Third Party if he doesn’t get the GOP nomination and that makes him dangerous, IMO.

He can't afford the pay cut.

13 posted on 04/12/2011 9:54:03 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: Reaganite Republican; P-Marlowe

I’m very supportive of everything Trump’s done so far.

He seems to have fire, and if he keeps acting like he doesn’t give a damn about the media take on things, then I’m just fine with that.

He’s definitely got my attention.


14 posted on 04/12/2011 9:54:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Chris Christie attitude - with more business experience.


15 posted on 04/12/2011 9:55:18 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Is it 2012 yet?)
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To: Reaganite Republican
If he runs as an independent, he's nothing more than Obama’s boot licking toadie.
16 posted on 04/12/2011 9:55:45 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: dawn53

Dangerous? If Backstabber Romney hijacks the GOP,
then a Third Party and the final dissolution of the GOP
is a sine qua non, n’est pas?


17 posted on 04/12/2011 9:55:57 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Those who would repeat the past must control the teaching of history. - Bene Gesserit Coda)
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To: bella1
Trump isn't for conservatism. He's for Trump.

He's said he'd probably run as an independent unless he wins the nomination. Now assuming his primary appeal is to conservatives, his running as an independent would split the anti-Obama vote and virtually guarantee Obama's reelection. What kind of person who truly values conservative principles promises to help re-elect Obama if he doesn't get the nomination?

18 posted on 04/12/2011 9:56:15 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: mnehring

Good charts. Interesting that Rudy is where he is on that scale, especially in relation to Trump. I always hated seeing him lumped in with Romney and McCain. He is conservative as heck on many issues, and very strong on those issues in terms of ability to execute and communicate the issues. There are others where he is quite poor.

Trump could be in several places on the left to right axis, depending on what his true views are. He is all over the board on issues like taxes on the rich, health care, and several others. I don’t trust him yet to be a constitutional leader, which is critical for our next candidate.

I actually like a similar chart where populist is replaced with authoritarian, and on that chart, I like to find people closer to libertarian than authoritarian. I suspect both Rudy and Trump would trend towards authoritarian on that chart, as it seems like the NE Republican view is much more government driven than the rest of the country.


19 posted on 04/12/2011 9:56:30 AM PDT by ilgipper
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To: Reaganite Republican

Trump is great theater, but he’s not a serious contender. He’s even more reminiscent of Ross Perot than are the female heart-throbs.


20 posted on 04/12/2011 9:58:24 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Reaganite Republican

I’m still a little suspicious but Trump is making the rest of the field seem like a bunch of cowards. It’s amazing the service he’s providing. Finally, someone is saying what he’s saying...and he’s a liberal so people listen. He can go on nbc and they’ll let him talk, at least for a little while until they go whole hog and try to politically assassinate him.


21 posted on 04/12/2011 9:58:27 AM PDT by toddausauras
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To: Red Steel

Thanks Red Steel .


22 posted on 04/12/2011 9:58:46 AM PDT by fatima (90% of the art of living consists in getting along with people you can't stand.Sam Goldwyn)
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To: mnehring

Hey mnering:

We get it, you keep posting that same old graph on every Trump thread. This is almost the 10th time you’ve posted this same content.

If we cared about ontheissues.org, or how Rudy or Clinton map out on the issues we’d be on ontheissues.org website.


23 posted on 04/12/2011 9:59:25 AM PDT by jq2
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

What kind of person argues that the 14th Amendment changed the qualifications for POTUS?

The 14th Amendment had nothing to do with the unique qualifications laid out in the Constitution for POTUS.

Are you ready to admit that now?


24 posted on 04/12/2011 10:00:59 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: dawn53

the only easy path to re-election for Obama is if Trump runs as an indy.

Maybe Trump doesn’t want him gone, but wants him to stay?

I think we should judge his actions, not his words.


25 posted on 04/12/2011 10:01:21 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Reaganite Republican
Mark Levin:

"Trump is NOT the real deal. He will get Obama re-elected. This is not a game. This is not a circus. He is not a conservative. He was happy to donate to Schumer, Weiner, & Emanuel campaigns last year. He was pro-choice recently and now claims to be pro-life. He sounds more & more like Ross Perot. If he runs as an Independent, Obama wins. We should not encourage this."

26 posted on 04/12/2011 10:01:36 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: jq2

As long as people drool all over Trumps feet, buy into the media hype, and actually think he is Conservative, I’ll post it.

We are becoming infested with American Idle voters.


27 posted on 04/12/2011 10:01:54 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring
Trump said he will run as an independent, split the Republican vote, & re-elect Obama.
28 posted on 04/12/2011 10:03:15 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: Reaganite Republican
I'm having flashbacks of Ross Perot.

The only reason that this guy is palatable at all, is that he's the anti-Obama-- and is finally raising the questions that a plurality of us have been asking since day 1.

Trump is not, and never has been, a conservative-- unless you compare him to Obama. But then again, Bill Clinton is a conservative when compared to Obama.

Trump is serving a useful purpose right now, and I applaud him for what he's doing, but I hope he doesn't become the GOP nominee for President.

29 posted on 04/12/2011 10:04:39 AM PDT by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: Reaganite Republican
The left have enjoyed widespread acceptance of many falsehoods as fact. These include the falsehoods that 1) they are the friends of the middle class and the ‘little guy’, 2) they are intellectual, 3) they are non-discriminatory and better for blacks and minorities, 4) they are more altruistic, 5) they represent the middle of the road non-radical position.

For many of these the exact opposite is true. Republicans, however, spend the vast majority of their time trying to defend themselves against claims from the left that it is the Republicans who are radical.

To win back the country conservatives and Republicans have to be willing to take the fight to the left, and control the narrative. You don't win fights by backpedaling and not throwing any punches. If you let the other side load up and take shots without having to worry about getting hit back, they will, and some of those shots will land.

It is refreshing to watch someone like Trump who is willing to throw punches and mix it up. The Republicans need to ridicule the left and push them back onto their heels. It's required.

30 posted on 04/12/2011 10:05:39 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Reaganite Republican
The left have enjoyed widespread acceptance of many falsehoods as fact. These include the falsehoods that 1) they are the friends of the middle class and the ‘little guy’, 2) they are intellectual, 3) they are non-discriminatory and better for blacks and minorities, 4) they are more altruistic, 5) they represent the middle of the road non-radical position.

For many of these the exact opposite is true. Republicans, however, spend the vast majority of their time trying to defend themselves against claims from the left that it is the Republicans who are radical.

To win back the country conservatives and Republicans have to be willing to take the fight to the left, and control the narrative. You don't win fights by backpedaling and not throwing any punches. If you let the other side load up and take shots without having to worry about getting hit back, they will, and some of those shots will land.

It is refreshing to watch someone like Trump who is willing to throw punches and mix it up. The Republicans need to ridicule the left and push them back onto their heels. It's required.

31 posted on 04/12/2011 10:05:53 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Minus_The_Bear

To be fair, Trump said “probably” he would run as an Indy but would seek the Republican nomination. Trump says he is in it to win.


32 posted on 04/12/2011 10:06:26 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Reaganite Republican
You forgot one, numbnutz, "I'll run as an independent if I don't win the republican nomination".

How do you like mr. wonderful now?

33 posted on 04/12/2011 10:06:53 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Trump says he would run as an independent if he doesn’t get the nomination. He is trying to re-elect Obama it sounds like to me.

He is NOT a conservative in my book, he is a clownish buffoon.


34 posted on 04/12/2011 10:06:57 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Reaganite Republican

You probably thought Scott Brown was all that and a bag of chips last year too.


35 posted on 04/12/2011 10:07:33 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Reaganite Republican

If Woodsie the Owl was running against the kenyan, I’d go with Woodsie.


36 posted on 04/12/2011 10:07:33 AM PDT by albie
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To: Dixie Yooper
If he runs as an independent, he's nothing more than Obama’s boot licking toadie.

Correctamundo.

He needs to read up on Ross Perot.

37 posted on 04/12/2011 10:07:48 AM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: freespirited
A little bit ago I heard an ad for Oreilly tonight. He is going to explore allegations that Obama has covered up his college and other records.

I predict O'Reilly's "exploration" will end with zero discovery.

38 posted on 04/12/2011 10:08:13 AM PDT by Sloane_Ranger
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To: Reaganite Republican

The Trump backers are just dreaming. I can’t believe you all are so desperate that you’d believe his shtick is real.


39 posted on 04/12/2011 10:08:27 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: Egon

If Trump wants to beat Obama, he should run in the Democrat primary against him.


40 posted on 04/12/2011 10:08:29 AM PDT by Marak (I don't deal with reality.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

If The Donald has the goods on Obama he needs to make them public in a very big way and in a way that is impossible to ignore nor refute.


41 posted on 04/12/2011 10:10:38 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Terrorism in nothing more than Kinetic Islam)
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To: Reaganite Republican
I like what he's saying.

It's too bad it's not been what he's been saying all along, I might believe him if that were true. I can't say as I trust him yet, his change up of his beliefs has been way too sudden, and reminds me of Romney (without the hair).

He has the ability to sound sincere (unlike Romney), but everyone should remember this guy has been a deal negotiator all his life and knows how to sound sincere when he's bluffing.

I'm waiting to see where this is going, and it will take a lot for me to take him seriously.

In the meantime, so far I've enjoyed what he's been saying, I can't fault any of that.

42 posted on 04/12/2011 10:14:59 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Reaganite Republican

Video: A Question of Eligibility (Full Movie!) Very informative!

http://youtu.be/mUmVFTUyEOM

PETITION FOR PUBLIC RELEASE OF
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA’S BIRTH CERTIFICATE

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=81550


43 posted on 04/12/2011 10:15:05 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: DaxtonBrown
Real , not real , who cares . It's fun to watch . The guy has stones that's what people respond to . Look who he is up against . Mitt , Tiny Tim , Huck , Little Mitch etc. They are wimps . He probably won't run but he will stir the pot.
44 posted on 04/12/2011 10:16:05 AM PDT by fantom (,)
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To: Reaganite Republican
Recent noteworthy quotes:

Yeah, if you want to paint comb-over boy as a conservative, those quotes better be recent. Very recent!!

45 posted on 04/12/2011 10:16:43 AM PDT by Notary Sojac
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To: mnehring

Yeah, the republicans said the same thing about Ronald Reagan as they say about Trump.

“he a union supporter! he was the president of a union” the republicans cried

“He was a democrat (literally)” they complained.


46 posted on 04/12/2011 10:17:42 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: dawn53

The Republican party has become incoherent and will dissolve before long.

Trump is a symptom, he’s not the disease.

If he is really a nationalist, he’s the next President, Republican or not.


47 posted on 04/12/2011 10:17:42 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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To: Reaganite Republican

I am open to Trump, and I love his attacks on 0bama. His poll numbers prove that the whining maggots like Medved and Rove on the “right” are wrong about the eligibility issue. It is and good “body shot” into the neo-com President, and takes him off rhythm, and scores points with the base of the Republicans and the “independents”.


48 posted on 04/12/2011 10:20:00 AM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: RockinRight

Last poll I saw Trump was the number one candidate among the Tea partiers and Birthers.

The Tea Party and Birthers are not happy with the liberal and winpy republicans especially Boehner right now.

It’s no wonder Trump is number one in the polls among them.


49 posted on 04/12/2011 10:20:26 AM PDT by tsowellfan (http://www.cafenetamerica.com)
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To: ConservativeDude

If Trump runs as an independent and the GOP nominates Romney or Huckabee, the GOP won’t get 10% of the vote.


50 posted on 04/12/2011 10:20:52 AM PDT by Jim Noble (The Constitution is overthrown. The Revolution is betrayed.)
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