Posted on 04/18/2011 8:14:41 AM PDT by rae4palin
We need to have a frank discussion about Christianity, war and pacifism, because we may all be making direct decisions about these huge questions in our own lives before long. Some scripture popped into my mind earlier this week, and I was able to really dig into it yesterday. I was taken aback by what I found but in a good way. I hope that this will help bring some clarity, or at the very least start some discussions. I have been thinking all day about whether or not my exegesis is being influenced by my own personal leanings on this subject. Perhaps it is. You will need to be the judge of that but consider yourself disclaimed.
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Okay. Stop, stop, stop. Hold the phone. Put out the cat. First of all, this proves that He was speaking in the literal sense in addition to the figurative sense. But more importantly, do you realize what this means? At least two of the apostles arrived at the Upper Room wearing side arms, which they then took off so they could sit on the floor around the low table that was used in those days. What this also means is that there were side arms present, in the room, at the Last Supper.
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Magnificent woman.
She did an excellent job. I was raised on the Douay Bible (12 years of Roman Catholic schooling).
Look up “AA-1025” and get the book. It’s a story of communist inflitration into Seminaries in the attempt to alter and destroy Christianity from within.
Apple and oranges. Remember, Jesus and the disciples were trilingual: Latin, Greek, and some Aramaic? And there is a lot of direct correspondence between Latin and Greek. The Gospel of Matthew of written in Greek, but some of what he recorded was actually said in Latin (for example, what Pilate said to Jesus).
I have never seen any discussion of whether the apostles possession of swords was legal under Roman law.
It would seem very odd of the Romans to allow restive subject populations to carry arms freely.
I have wondered about that too. As long as you paid your taxes, paid lip service to Caesar and kept the peace, the Romans were not too oppressive? Carrying swords must have been permitted. The Roman soldiers in the garden apparently did not confiscate the swords or arrest the apostles. I guess their concept of arms control was limited to hitting what you swung at.
What makes you think Pilate spoke in Latin? The Roman aristocracy and officials had been bilingual for centuries. Greek was much more widespread in the East than Latin.
So in all likelihood Pilate spoke Greek to Christ and to the crowds.
The apostles were probably bilingual: Aramaic and Greek.
There is no evidence I’m aware of that any of them spoke Latin, with of course the notable exception of Paul, a Roman citizen. Some may also have had some Hebrew.
Christ himself no doubt was fluent in any language he chose to use. :)
I would imagine more than just a few jews of the time spoke Hebrew.
it took Luke 22:36 to spark my interest and see Lord Jesus as more than a pacifist hippie...
although i agree that theres plenty of *figurative* to debate as well, but to me its clear [and no human has dampened what i *know* in my heart] that the literal, in context, simply screams to defend myself and resist evils of 'the world'...
Blessings to all...
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I do know that any Roman Citizen {who wasn’t a slave} could possess and use a sword; the Apostle Paul is an example of one who was both a Jew and a Roman Citizen so some of the 12 could have been Citizens and therefore owning a sword would be permissible.
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