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To: pyx
Please take some time from millions of dead fellow Americans to please respond fully to all five of my questions in Post #43. Thanks.

I am not sure what you are asking, the next Civil war (for lack of better words) is not going to be a medieval battle field where we charge at each other with swords or a Vietnam type guerrilla offensive where we have to run up and down a Ho-Chin-Min trail. So how many of what age & shape isn't going to matter as much as you think.

What's going to happen is some kind of spark in one or more of the major cities, maybe it will be a Rodney King or a Crown Heights type of incident, maybe there will be a scorching couple of days in the summer which causes regional blackouts, or maybe another Katrina or other natural disaster.

Whatever the spark, this time once the rioting and looting starts it's not going to stop, and it's going to spread to other cities. Obama is not strong enough to put it down even if he wanted to(See Cloward + Piven).

The Cities will be in flames and "No-Go" zones, while life will initially go on in the country relatively normal. There's plenty of stuff to loot in the cities, there's no reason for them to come out right away, they will kill each other fighting over their resources first.

City people are not self reliant, especially city Liberals, for example ask them why they don't own gun and they will tell you "I don't need one, I'll just call the police" and White city Liberals have been so feminized they will be lambs to the slaughter. They are all going to die waiting for Obama to come save them.

You'll have some squatters camps of refugees in many of the rest areas on the interstates on the outskirts of the cities, but full coordinated attacks on small towns dozens or 100s of miles away, it's not going to happen.

143 posted on 05/05/2011 9:38:50 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1
Whatever the spark, this time once the rioting and looting starts it's not going to stop, and it's going to spread to other cities. Obama is not strong enough to put it down even if he wanted to(See Cloward + Piven).

In spite of assertions put forth in the mid-60's by Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, restoring "order" in local areas will be the job of local authorities. Also, the several Governors of the various States where these cities may be located are not likely to sit through turmoil within their own State. Further, the National Guard are unlikely to suddenly make themselves unavailable. And despite assertions I've read at various places to the contrary, the National Guard are very well organized and trained and I seem to recall hearing somewhere that they have access to heavy weapons.

IMO, given that the overwhelming majority of Americans (a wild-eyed guess is around 98% and I have absolutely no proof to backup that percentage) are law abiding and not prone to violent overthrow of their local, State or Federal government and therefore, a Civil War or a civil war or an uncivil war due to upheaval in a city (or overwhelming the system) is unlikely. Of course this is pure speculation on my part and it remains to bear itself out.

As I have said, planning and preparing for possible disasters is a wise and prudent thing. Again, I encourage people to read and learn from Kartographer's thorough and well laid out PDF available here and mentioned in Post #30.

144 posted on 05/05/2011 10:49:44 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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