Posted on 05/05/2011 7:51:34 PM PDT by Triton42
"So who won the debate? In a political debate, of course, there is no such thing as "winning the argument." Instead, candidates aim to achieve certain goals. In this case--even for Pawlenty--the goal was to attract media attention. The debates also present an opportunity for the candidates to prove their rhetorical ability. So who succeeded?
No candidate performed in an outstanding way. Two candidates, Santorum and Johnson, performed poorly. But Cain, Paul, and Pawlenty each achieved what they set out to do...."
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Johnson’s open borders and support of the “right to choose” disqualifies him, in my view.
Specific examples?
Because he has fire in his belly. I think he's terrific.
Watch this if you have never seen a Cain speech. And get back to us.
Yes, it is.
You want to defeat Obama? You need to support someone who can rival him in terms of optics. Someone who's younger and can attract younger people.
Aren't you tired of the GOP running geriatric, tired candidates?
Herman Cain going away.
Santorun looked good
Pawlenty did not hurt himself
Johnson is as rino as they come
Paul?...
Only if they're gay. :)
So you are saying that candidates for gummint bureaucracies must have experience as gummint bureaucrats? Is that what the Founding Fathers intended?
Palin
Herman Cain did awesome.
Gov Tim Pawlenty did very well and so did Santorum.
Paul. meh.
Gary Johnson won the dwarf fringer pro-drug pro-abort vote, and POed everyone else. He’s the only real loser.
Other losers are Huck and Romney. Running for 3 years and ‘forgot’ to make it? Pathetic.
Herman Cain won. He’d eat Obama alive in a debate.
Rick Santorum was a close second.
And as for the candidates involved.... I can't help but think that this was a strictly minor-league affair.
I don't care if he has molten lava in his belly. The man couldn't even win a Senate primary race against a couple of RINOs in GA.
Americans aren't going to vote for a businessman off the street for President.
Watch this if you have never seen a Cain speech. And get back to us.
I don't care about his speeches. What has he done in terms of advancing conservative policies in elective office?
“I liked Santorum, Pawlenty and Cain.”
My reaction as well.
Ron Paul and Gary Johnson are AWOL on drugs and marriage.
Your nuts. He has by far the best campaign skills of anyone running, he’s run multiple large companies. He is very compelling, and he’s right on pretty much every issue. I take him very seriously.
Well, the old man had his people there, and he was probably the most dynamic of the candidates, too. I am speaking of Ron Paul. Johnson, given the position on stage always, or nearly always given, to Duncan L. Hunter, received the fewest questions, but unlike Hunter, who projected presidential criteria, had the weakest arguments. I would say that it was a good night for Mr. Cain.
another question... of those in tonight’s debate; whose webpage would accept the smallest credit card donation?
Whose “minimum donation” is the most thought out?
hint... it is $20.12
LOVE IT!!!
Which ones don’t want Donations of less than $35?
There is nothing that holding political office does to qualify someone to make policy decisions and manage, which is what presidents do. There are many people in the private sector who know far more about just about any policy issue that the typical “experienced” candidate. The only thing political office does for anyone is continually test his fund-raising abilities.
Does anyone think that John Kerry or Joe Biden have a better grasp of issues than Cain? And then there are issues of character and intellectual curiousity, which are not the long suits of the overwhelming majority of politicians.
He needs to be a Governor, or at least a Senator.
He didn't even win the GOP primary of a Senate race in GA.
John Cox ran in 2008 and no one supported him. He too was a businessman.
So why is everyone jumping all over Cain?
(Answer: He's black, and the affirmative-action wing of conservatism are foolishly putting race ahead of experience).
He is also too old and is not photogenic.
FReepers ought to be ashamed of themselves. Now's not the time to support these vanity candidates who view the Presidency as the equivalent of tackling Mt. Everest. These are serious times and they demand a serious, qualified leader who has experience and has withstood the onslaught of left-wing Obama thug tactics.
If Cain gets the nomination we're screwed.
You pretty much speak the truth.
I do think Cain probably did best in the debate, but lets be serious - he isn't going to be President of the United States. No public service experience, lost his only run at office in the primaries, not particularly photogenic, and a stage 4 cancer survivor isn't a great resume builder when we are talking about the Presidency. In a general election, that issue alone will hurt him as people will probably worry he could relapse and die.
I don't think the black thing matters as much as you suggest. I also think encouraging minorities to run for office as Republicans is a good idea. Still, some of what you are saying might be true.
Palin would have simply annihilated this group of 2nd and 3rd tier candidates. I really hope she gets in the race because we seriously need her (imo).
What if the final ‘12 GOP Presidential ticket is, either, Sarah Palin/Herman Cain, or, Herman Cain/Sarah Palin? Will the U.S. be screwed, with either ticket?
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