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Half of Americans believe U.S. Christians persecuted.
World Net Daily ^ | May 05, 2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 05/06/2011 1:12:51 PM PDT by OR Patriot

Almost half of Americans believe that Christians in the United States are being persecuted by homosexual "marriage" advocates who take legal action against them over their religious beliefs, and almost one in three Democrats believes such treatment is "necessary," according to the alarming results of a new poll.

The results are from a WND/WENZEL Poll conducted for WND by the public-opinion research and media consulting company Wenzel Strategies.

The scientific telephone survey was conducted April 19-21 and has a margin of error of 3.23 percentage points. It found that 49.2 percent of all respondents consider the legal activism against Christians and their beliefs regarding homosexuality to be "persecution."

The question was, "There is a trend developing in which gay activists are filing lawsuits against people who refuse to do business with them on moral/religious grounds – such as when a New Mexico photographer was sued by a lesbian couple for refusing to photograph their wedding. Knowing this, which of the following statements most closely represents what you think about this?"

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This is not particularly surprising when we have judicial activism so unchecked. In the referenced photographer who was sued by lesbians for example, the presiding judge was Alan M. Mallott who was appointed by liberal democrat NM Governor Bill Richardson. Mallott, donated to Obama's election and only to democratic candidates. See http://www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/alan-malott.asp?cycle=08 I am not sure there is a better example of liberal judicial activism than this.

There is no doubt Christians are persecuted by the government entities that are charged in protecting their interests equally not just the interests of a politically manipulative minority.

1 posted on 05/06/2011 1:12:56 PM PDT by OR Patriot
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To: OR Patriot
almost one in three Democrats believes such treatment is "necessary," according to the alarming results of a new poll.

In a related story, Democrats gnash their teeth at the brutal murder if Usama Bin Laden by US forces.

Sickening.

2 posted on 05/06/2011 1:31:14 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: OR Patriot

Homosexuality and all forms of sexual immorality are promoted by the elites precisely in order to destroy Christianity. That is Frankfurt School strategy in a nutshell.


3 posted on 05/06/2011 1:33:21 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: OR Patriot
Half of Americans believe U.S. Christians persecuted.

And half of Americans support it.

4 posted on 05/06/2011 1:36:14 PM PDT by Alex Murphy (Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed: he's hated on seven continents)
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To: Alex Murphy
Half of "Americans" believe US Christians should be persecuted.
5 posted on 05/06/2011 1:41:16 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: OR Patriot

This is what happens when judges, not citizens, hold all the power. The situation will not improve unless the people take back that power.


6 posted on 05/06/2011 1:42:22 PM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: MrB

most Americans even on the right couldn’t careless because they think it doesn’;t hurt them

You want to see what I mean.

Talk about or put a post about say Tiger Woods and him having an affair and even on here will get hundreds of replies.

Put a post on here or talk at work etc and we’ll have less than a hundred replies or no conversation.

Put a post up about homosexuals getting their agenda passed and nothing, put a post up about American idol and who won and guess what hundreds of posts


7 posted on 05/06/2011 1:44:34 PM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

Some homo activist is on record saying that Christians MUST be persecuted in order for homo activism (”gay rights”) to be successful.


8 posted on 05/06/2011 1:44:53 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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Talk about or put a post about say Tiger Woods and him having an affair and even on here will get hundreds of replies.

A group of people could be discussing the occult or Satanism and would hardly raise an eyebrow.

Say the word "Jesus", and the room gets quiet, people fidget uncomfortably, you can hear the crickets.

9 posted on 05/06/2011 1:53:18 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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To: He Rides A White Horse

nail on head


10 posted on 05/06/2011 1:55:57 PM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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We all fall short; we are human after all. Jesus did say however that people will hate us simply for being one of His flock.


11 posted on 05/06/2011 2:01:09 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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maybe and I’m not a church goer but see a post about a woman having sex making a noise and there are over 50 posts, see this post and look at it, hardly any posts

we live in a age where drama queens, homo’s cross dressers, reality TV are all the rage while important issues are, who cares so what big deal


12 posted on 05/06/2011 2:04:47 PM PDT by manc (Shame on all who voted for the repeal of DADT, who supported it or never tried to stop it. Traitors)
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This world hates God - aways has. Therefore the New World Order that seems to be pretty much running things in the United States and Europe is in favor of persecuting real Jews and real Christians. The nominal Jews and nominal Christians are ignored or given a pass.


13 posted on 05/06/2011 2:12:57 PM PDT by RoadTest (Organized religion is no substitute for the relationship the living God wants with you.)
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maybe and I’m not a church goer but see a post about a woman having sex making a noise and there are over 50 posts, see this post and look at it, hardly any posts

Sometimes people read an article without posting. You know, if I tried to make a comment on every article, I would be exhausted.

14 posted on 05/06/2011 2:14:54 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((unite))
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In the U.S. today you are not allowed your own beliefs. You may only think and say what is officially approved by the government. If you think I'm wrong, try saying something "unapproved" in public, especially a large Fortune 500 company, and we'll see how quickly you are sent for "sensitivity training", the fore-runner of re-education camps.
It's coming, folks.......
15 posted on 05/06/2011 2:33:48 PM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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...see this post and look at it, hardly any posts

A few points:
1. We already knew this stuff; the poll just adds numbers.
2. Posting more doesn't equal helping the situation more.
3. American Christians who know the kinds of things other Christians around the world have to endure are actually embarrassed to put the persecution label on things that, by contrast, amount to little more than bullying and harassment.

The issue is one of perspective; a man with no foot may find it unrealistic to call himself "handicapped" in a room filled with paraplegics.

Not that we need to draw a line and say, "Here's where bullying and harassment cross over into bona fide persecution"; like pornography — you know it when you see it even though a precise definition is difficult to nail down; but we do need to acknowledge that some abuses don't rise to the level of actual persecution.

IMO, we should use more applicable terms like "bullying" and "harassment"; terms that the Left regularly uses to characterize behavior they want to vilify, and stamp out; and hold weightier terms like "persecution" in reserve.

16 posted on 05/06/2011 2:37:09 PM PDT by HKMk23 (A free man unarmed is just a slave on borrowed time.)
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Luckily I do believe we are still marginally in the harassment stages here, unlike in Canada where there truly is persecution. But give it time. We must continue to speak up and act to preserve freedom of conscience, and reclaim the rights of free speech and freedom of association.

Manc, give it time, the day is young (as is this thread) and everybody’s still at work waiting to go home and get their Freep on! ;)


17 posted on 05/06/2011 2:48:49 PM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (The War on Poverty is over. Poverty won. - Howie Carr)
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Persecution is a relative term. Christians in this country get ridiculed, pushed around, might lose a job promotion or even get fired over their faith. But we're not being imprisoned, beheaded, skinned or burned alive, hacked to death with machetes, impaled, etc. like in some third-world countries. At least not yet, but that day is probably coming, when Christians will be brutalized in this country, and it could happen practically overnight.

At least, I find it hard to believe that we will not be tested harshly, chaff from wheat, as has happened throughout history.

18 posted on 05/06/2011 3:09:01 PM PDT by FlyVet
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Thanks OR Patriot.
almost one in three Democrats believes such treatment is "necessary,"
Since we can't read minds, the other more than two will have to go as well.


19 posted on 05/06/2011 3:50:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: FlyVet

Persecution is a relative term.

Agreed. The definition is pretty general for it: “hostility and unfair treatment toward someone, especially for their religious beliefs, political beliefs, or their race” (Oxford American Dictionary, 2008)

However, I do feel that Christianity now fits within the given definition. I agree with you that it’s certainly not in the extreme state yet, it could get way worse, but we’re certainly on a graduated process: a process that intensifies with progressing time increments.

As for the testing and separation or “chaff from wheat” that’s already happening as amongst those who profess to believe, there lies the choice of continuing to profess your orthodox beliefs, or leaving them behind for what is supposedly a worthwhile “exception”. The separation happens right now while the mainline religions generally keep to their original tradition of treating marriage as between a man and a woman, or accepting alterations to that for the sake of political correctness, among other issues.

I agree very much with the final statement.


20 posted on 05/06/2011 4:07:01 PM PDT by Morpheus2009 (I pity the fool - Mr. T)
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