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The Constitution Club ^ | 05-14-11 | Cultural Limits

Posted on 05/14/2011 4:29:14 PM PDT by TheConservativeCitizen

This morning, after my exercise class (where there was a lengthy discussion on personal responsibility and that American culture used to stress that one was to go out of the way to not inconvenience others and respect other people’s property and space) I stopped at a chain discounter to pick up a few household staples that happen to be cheaper there than anywhere else. I walked across the parking lot, grabbed a cart and started pushing it through the store in search of the items I needed.

Before long, a sight that is all too common in this country these days came into view – a grossly morbidly obese man was driving one of the store’s motorized carts and in the basket, clearly in view, were two cases of name brand soda, neither one of which said “sugar free,” and both known to be loaded with caffeine. There were other things in the basket, but that was what caught my eye. Before long, another motorized cart, this time driven by a grossly morbidly obese woman, pulled alongside the first and the two drivers proceeded to have a conversation that indicated that they were together in some form – husband/wife,co-habitating, partners, whatever. The woman’s basket was loaded with food that my father would call “unsubstantial.”

Now, as an American, it is technically none of my business, or anyone else’s, what food and food products individuals buy and eat. Really, it isn’t, and if the “enlightened” ones among us want to wreck their immune systems being vegan and/or vegetarian, that’s their business. It really is – just as it’s these morbidly obese people who shop in store provided motorized carts business that they are loading up already over-fed bodies with “food” that causes insulin spikes, intense hunger, water retention and Heaven knows what to internal organs. It really is their business – UNTIL these people demand that tax-payers subsidize the costs for management of whatever health consequences are due to lifestyle decisions.

Plain and simply, I have the right – as someone who has taken lifestyle choice steps not to put myself in that position – to refuse to pay for someone else’s bad habits and the consequences of them when plenty of information is available regarding those consequences. This has nothing to do with the resentment I may or may not feel toward people who demand such special accommodations or any kind of prejudice against fat people. It has to do with accepting responsibility.

I understand perfectly well that there are individuals who are morbidly obese through no real fault of their own and that there are people who become diabetic and develop heart disease and cancer and so many other diseases without the extra weight. (After a considerable amount of research, I happen to believe the latter is a result of processed and industrialized food, but that’s for another time.) Those who cannot work or are part of families devastated due to these diseases having nothing to do with life-style choices deserve our compassion and voluntary charity. They really do, and there are charitable agencies set up to help with that. Before the viral infection known as “managed care” was inflicted on the population, the health care system was better able to accommodate such cases. With a straight up payment for service system and insurance being what insurance is meant to be, costs were kept under control, especially when individuals were paying for it themselves.

Now, though, given that the culture is changing to accommodate the bad habits, i.e., large chain discounters providing motorized carts for the morbidly obese, expectations are that the government will provide services for any health issues that crop up – this in a country where freedom of choice and everyone pays their own way is the traditional way things are done. That is not encouraging people to take care of themselves.

Ever since the concept of complete government provided health care (really payment for services, but why confuse accuracy with a good sales pitch) was proposed under the Clinton Administration and the farther we get from payment for services as a personal economic practice in the health arena, the worse the personal responsibility is getting. Inversely, in direct proportion, is the amount of guilt laid on we the healthy who object to the idea of paying extra taxes to socialize our health system when the private route works so much better and forces the population to really think about their decisions.

Human nature being what it is, hope is fading that the people I saw this morning in the carts will change their lives to a healthier paradigm. Just so, the promise of something for “nothing” is driving the romanticism of a single-payer system. It is not an encouraging place to be right now.


TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: exercise; habits; health; obesity

1 posted on 05/14/2011 4:29:20 PM PDT by TheConservativeCitizen
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

I commented on this after my recent Bermuda trip. I call them “Scooter People” and they’re revolting. Seeing them (and dozens of others, not yet in full scooter mode) living at the buffet was sickening.


2 posted on 05/14/2011 4:40:35 PM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: TheConservativeCitizen
"a grossly morbidly obese man was driving one of the store’s motorized carts and in the basket, clearly in view, were two cases of name brand soda, neither one of which said “sugar free,” and both known to be loaded with caffeine. There were other things in the basket, but that was what caught my eye. Before long, another motorized cart, this time driven by a grossly morbidly obese woman, pulled alongside the first and the two drivers proceeded to have a conversation that indicated that they were together in some form"

I've happened upon this scenario in Wal-Mart a couple of times. The first time, it was actually quite a shock. I literally laughed at them. They looked at me all puzzled. For a moment, I thought about pulling their battery cables while they weren't looking, just to see how long they would sit there 'stranded'. I was thinking that one of them might get on their cell phone and call the service desk to ask for a tow. I have no issues with people that have actual injuries using these things. 90% of the time the people I see using them are clearly just too lazy to walk around. If they REALLY NEEDED those things, they would already have a wheelchair or something of the like.

3 posted on 05/14/2011 5:00:27 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

A major problem with socialized health care. Everyone else’s health habits become your business, because you are paying for it.

I wonder if he frowned on the gay guy prancing down the aisle, or the high adventure sports addict in his office.

No, probably just the fat people.


4 posted on 05/14/2011 5:17:48 PM PDT by Persevero (We don't need Superman -- we have the Special Forces)
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To: KoRn
f they REALLY NEEDED those things, they would already have a wheelchair or something of the like.

Nah, lots of temporary injuries, surgeries etc make the scooters really attractive although there is no real need to lay out the bucks for a wheelchair. Being a mountain biker, and having suffered injuries common to the sport, I've ridden many a scooter at the grocery store with a cast sticking out like a lance. I was always on the lookout for a similar individual so we could joust, but never found one.

5 posted on 05/14/2011 5:46:47 PM PDT by Melas
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

The cost of providing those motorized scooters is lumped into the
cost of the food at the store. The morbidly obese are likely not working anymore as well. Living on SSDI and other forms of government
largess. As another poster observed, there are others in your midst
who are tapping your wallet, but aren’t as easily identified.


6 posted on 05/14/2011 5:48:32 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Persevero
I wonder if he frowned on the gay guy prancing down the aisle, or the high adventure sports addict in his office.

See, this worries me. That's exactly what will happen. Adrenaline junkies like me will be screwed by the government at every level.

7 posted on 05/14/2011 5:48:50 PM PDT by Melas
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I don’t disagree. I’m fully aware of how there can be injuries that make such accommodations necessary for some folks.

I was mainly referring to the people that are just flat out too fat/lazy to walk their lard asses around the store. I see it all the time. What’s worse, is most of the time, WE are paying for THEIR dammed groceries! grrrr


8 posted on 05/14/2011 6:02:58 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: KoRn

Add this to your disgust, I heard on the radio the other morning that someone was granted $2,000,000 to study the menus used at a certain school to determine what they need to change to make the students meals more healthy. What happened to all of the dietitians who are on the payroll for this very reason? Why aren’t they doing their job?


9 posted on 05/14/2011 6:21:59 PM PDT by GrannyK
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To: TheConservativeCitizen

Great post. I see you are a fellow Coloradoan; Care to share where this happened? You also sound like you’ve at least heard of Gary Taubes’ work.


10 posted on 05/14/2011 6:24:28 PM PDT by 14erClimb
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To: GrannyK

Wow.....

Sometimes it’s just amazing to think that we’ve made it this long, with that kind of madness going on out there.

Eventually the games are gonna be forced to stop, and it ain’t gonna be pretty.


11 posted on 05/14/2011 6:31:34 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Melas

“See, this worries me. That’s exactly what will happen. “

That’s what I see. They’ll be punishing us for not taking our vitamins, prohibiting the piloting of small planes, enforcing the application of sun screen, forbidding the wearing of high heels, etc. etc. etc. Because now it IS their business.


12 posted on 05/14/2011 7:26:14 PM PDT by Persevero (We don't need Superman -- we have the Special Forces)
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