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Will Norton Found (Sad Ending) :-(
"Help Find Will Norton" Facebook Page ^ | 5/29/11

Posted on 05/27/2011 11:56:44 PM PDT by pillut48

Will Norton was the young man who had just graduated from high school when the Joplin tornado hit. He was pulled through the sunroof of his SUV while his dad tried in vain to hold onto him. A massive search for him has been underway since last Sunday. His family is reporting tonight on Facebook that sadly his body was found today. :*(


TOPICS: Society; Weather
KEYWORDS: facebook; highschool; joplin; suv

1 posted on 05/27/2011 11:56:46 PM PDT by pillut48
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To: pillut48

Is there a reason God is doing this? I understand the concept of chastisement, but really, if such is needed, surely not by the Midwest.


2 posted on 05/27/2011 11:57:54 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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3 posted on 05/27/2011 11:58:42 PM PDT by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: Niuhuru

As a Christian, I do not believe that God is *doing* this, but that God is *allowing* this to happen, that He has withdrawn so much of His protection of this country in view of the way it has turned its back on Him. :*( I pray for America every day, I think things are just going to get worse!


4 posted on 05/28/2011 12:00:46 AM PDT by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: pillut48

Perfect point and very succinct. I alos mentioned that natural disasters are the province of the Devil, he (the Devil, hence the little “he”) is called the Prince and Power of the Air for a reason.


5 posted on 05/28/2011 12:03:32 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Niuhuru

Sometimes the Lord will cause a person who is saved to suffer; remember the Apostle Paul and his suffering. He viewed it as a reward to be able to suffer in the name of Christ. If our suffering is not directly because of persecution because of our faith, but perhaps because of an accident or illness, and throughout our suffering we keep our faith, that glorifies God. We must remember that no matter what the trial or tribulation, God will not abandon us, and he will never place a burden on us such that he will not also give us the strength to persevere throughout it.


6 posted on 05/28/2011 12:07:44 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: PieterCasparzen
he will never place a burden on us such that he will not also give us the strength to persevere throughout it.
7 posted on 05/28/2011 12:09:53 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: PieterCasparzen

That being said, from a national point of view, there are numerous times when God chastised Israel.

I remember when the people asked for a King like all the other nations had, and Saul was annointed King. It represented a change in the system of government of the nation of Israel. Could not America, rebelling from King George, and building their own government of, by and for the people, without a King, be abstractly related to that concept ? We now seek to not select a head of state by birth, but by our elective choice on a regular schedule. Which is better in some ways, but presents it’s own challenges, as we are still dealing with a nation of corruptible men. And as we have nationally turned away from God, we certainly have nationally experienced the problems of being more accepting of moral lapses.


8 posted on 05/28/2011 12:18:17 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (Huguenot)
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To: Niuhuru
I am no doubt going to be flamed for this.

Ecc 9:11 I have seen something else under the sun: The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned; but time and chance happen to them all.

The simple truth is that we should love, and cherish our loved ones like there is no tomorrow.

That being said, the parents really need all our prayers now, for this is an absolutely heart wrenching thing to happen.

9 posted on 05/28/2011 12:20:50 AM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Kindness will conquer evil)
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To: PieterCasparzen

When He does stuff like this, as He is doing to the world, He must have one HECK of a plan for us to carry out if he’s doing this to toughen us up.


10 posted on 05/28/2011 12:28:49 AM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: pillut48

How terrible. This young man was on my mind this week as I had a niece also graduating from high school on Tuesday.

:( Just awful.


11 posted on 05/28/2011 12:36:08 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: BornToBeAmerican
Does anyone believe that maybe, weather patterns happen over a period of time, and its just nature and that a long time ago there weren't big cities to be destroyed. And if you believe in patterns in certain areas, that have reoccurring tornado's or hurricanes that the prudent thing would be to build storm cellars, or dome buildings so the wind blows around you instead of destroying everything you own ? We have the technology to withstand these natural occurrences.I know they don't always look majestic, but our lives must mean something. Wake up America. On the other hand, I have deep empathy and sadness for the loss of life. But we need to get smarter in our building for sustainable life, and on another note, Political as well. Please
12 posted on 05/28/2011 12:38:45 AM PDT by juma (What i s the real answer ? Does anyone Know ?)
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To: pillut48

God does not guarantee us all a peaceful old age, but God calls noone home until they have lived their purpose.

It is the challenge of the living to discover how that purposeful life has affected their own lives and how that impact can be built upon to the ultimate glorification of God.


13 posted on 05/28/2011 12:49:22 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: Niuhuru

>> Is there a reason God is doing this?

A child’s fall is not the intention of the parent. It is, however, His intention to bring us healing and comfort. JMHO.


14 posted on 05/28/2011 1:08:01 AM PDT by Gene Eric (*** Jesus ***)
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To: pillut48

RIP.


15 posted on 05/28/2011 1:22:12 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: pillut48
I'm not making light of a tragedy, but the headline activated my imagination and I pictured a human body being sucked up through a sunroof by the air pressure differences in the car vs. outside.

I'm having a hard time believing a car and one occupant sitting still for this event.

16 posted on 05/28/2011 2:05:11 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: PieterCasparzen
We must remember that no matter what the trial or tribulation, God will not abandon us, and he will never place a burden on us such that he will not also give us the strength to persevere throughout it.

Yes! We are never alone!

17 posted on 05/28/2011 2:17:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: pillut48

Prayers up for his family and friends, and all those who suffer as a result of these storms.


18 posted on 05/28/2011 2:29:33 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: pillut48

How sad. At first the family had been told that their son had been brought to a hospital and they sounded so hopeful.

A tragic ending for the family but god forbid they would have never found him.

Prayers for all those suffering in our beloved country.


19 posted on 05/28/2011 2:59:38 AM PDT by Carley (OBAMA, DO YOU HEAR ME NOW.......'67 BORDERS, IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN)
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To: knarf
I'm not making light of a tragedy, but the headline activated my imagination and I pictured a human body being sucked up through a sunroof by the air pressure differences in the car vs. outside.

I'm having a hard time believing a car and one occupant sitting still for this event.

It is indeed very tragic.

I thought the same thing as you about what happened, and the story seems to have morphed from its beginning.

One newscast began with the "pulled through the sunroof" leader, but then talked about the vehicle rolling from the storm, and the young man going out the sun roof -- a far more plausible explanation.

The same news cast described him moving over in the back seat to put his arm around a relative just before the accident, leading to the conclusion that he was not buckled into his seat. Also in the newscast was video of him describing his joy at being given the Hummer as a present for his 16th birthday, which leads to a question about why he was in the backseat.

Connect not being buckled in with a vehicle rolling and you have a very mundane vehicle ejection fatality, albeit one that occurred during a violent storm.

In an area which is awash with personal tragedies, I wonder about the people who try to elevate a particular one with sensation. Of course, it could all be a result of the media trying to spin the story for audience.

In any case, I have deep sympathy for the family of that young man, and for all the people who have suffered losses in my home state.

20 posted on 05/28/2011 3:22:29 AM PDT by Quiller (When you're fighting to survive, there is no "try" -- there is only do, or do not.)
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To: Niuhuru
Is there a reason God is doing this?

My wife was asking the very same question, and my son of all people, said the following, "Just think of all the people who otherwise would not be exposed, or open to hearing about the gospel through all this, how many people are being brought together through this tragedy, and are benefiting from the outpouring of real Christian charity and love."

At the age of 18, and a new comer to the faith, he constantly struggles to make sense of it. So, coming from him it was kind of a surprise. Still what he said was true. God works in mysterious ways, and sometime the best we, as sinner saved only by the grace of God, can do is look at any given situation and try to figure out what aspect of God is being revealed to us and how we can use it to glorify Him.

21 posted on 05/28/2011 3:24:04 AM PDT by Turbo Pig (...to close with and destroy the enemy...)
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To: Niuhuru

“Is there a reason God is doing this?”
No “god” had anything to do with it.


22 posted on 05/28/2011 3:27:57 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (Northern flags in South winds flutter...)
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To: Niuhuru
Is there a reason God is doing this?

I don't know but the town I work in was hit extremely hard. The death toll was low (9) considering that six tornadoes hit the area and there were 285 homes destroyed but one thing that did happen was that the community really came together. The city was starting to grow too much and people were losing touch with each other even though as cities go it was still a great place. After the storms we saw people come from all over to help. Red Cross was inundated with volunteers. It was amazing! Businesses shut down and sent their employees to help. They also donated hundreds of thousands of dollars of supplies. There was virtually no looting. The whole disaster seemed to unite people. I'm very proud of this city and all the neighboring counties that helped.

Sometimes these disasters humble us when we start getting to big for our britches and let us know we are not in charge. :-)

Another question was asked about how could somebody be sucked out of a sun roof. One of the homes we went to when we took supplies was a lady that fostered dogs and cats for the animal shelter. Her home wasn't completely destroyed but she was fostering several cats indoors. When a section of the roof was blown off all of her cats were sucked out through the hole and killed. The force a tornado has is indescribable if you have never been in one.

23 posted on 05/28/2011 3:52:45 AM PDT by Melinda in TN (My goal in life is to be the person my dog thinks I am.)
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To: blueplum

beautifully expressed


24 posted on 05/28/2011 3:59:00 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: Turbo Pig

Will’s story touched a lot of people. I have been following his Aunt Tracie’s story on Facebook. So many people searching for him and praying for him. Reading the posts this morning, it is clear to see many were affected by his story and were reminded how quickly a loved one can be taken away from us. God bless Will’s family and those who loved him. So sad.


25 posted on 05/28/2011 4:15:53 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: pillut48

Very well said.


26 posted on 05/28/2011 4:37:49 AM PDT by pigsmith
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To: eyedigress

Then, why do some people committ suicide after tragedies?
Thoughts? And some people just go plain crazy


27 posted on 05/28/2011 4:50:17 AM PDT by mel (o fFR monthly...Do You?????)
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To: pillut48

When you live in Tornado Alley, there are going to be tornadoes.

Just as those living in New Orlean under sea level can expect a flood .

I suppose if you want to stretch things you can say God did it, but mother nature is what cause’s tornadoes. This one was exceptionally deadly.


28 posted on 05/28/2011 4:57:23 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: juma
Does anyone believe that maybe, weather patterns happen over a period of time, and its just nature and that a long time ago there weren't big cities to be destroyed.

Earlier atheists have used mass natural disasters to argue atheism ("how could God cause / allow this suffering"); you have sunk even from that, to think that nobody before your day ever suffered: you might want to (say) Google "Voltaire Lisbon Earthquake" and note the number of deaths.

Let me guess, you're a college graduate (oooh!), here to enlighten us with your wisdom, direct from your enlightened professors, through the sieve you call a mind, and right into our laps. (Lucky us, to be so blessed by your wisdom!)

And if you believe in patterns in certain areas, that have reoccurring tornado's or hurricanes that the prudent thing would be to build storm cellars, or dome buildings so the wind blows around you instead of destroying everything you own ?

Most homes in the Midwest HAVE basements. Many in so-called "Tornado Alley" also have storm cellars, depending on the soil and the water table.

But you might have noticed, a storm cellar cannot hold an SUV, which was the issue in the original posting.

Let me guess, you live in Berkeley or Sacramento.

(Your FReeper homepage has no flag. Perhaps it's just as well.)

Click here.

Cheers!

29 posted on 05/28/2011 5:18:44 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: mel

“Why do some people commit suicide after tragedies?”

I have NEVER liked the phrase, “What doesn’t kill us, only makes us stronger”. Why? I don’t think it is accurate. I believe that some traumas damage a person beyond repair. Perhaps, a person doesn’t have any type of warm, loving family or maybe they get into a “funk” and see no more joy possible. Maybe the cloud of despair is so thick and black that their mind turns on them. Perhaps they don’t have a strong faith and can’t acquire one quickly after a tragedy. Either way, they are sad and need our prayers.


30 posted on 05/28/2011 5:19:22 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Niuhuru
“Is there a reason God is doing this?”

A three month old baby was pulled out of it's mothers arms in the same tornado, and has yet to be found. There is an expression: “Unknowable to Men is the Peace of God”.

We are looking at not just a micro but a micro of a micro of the Scale God created. Consider the evil and infamy that God has seen and will see thru his creation, Time. He has heard every lie, seen every betrayal, seen every crime, every rape, every slaughter, every selfish grasp, every vicious thrust. He knows how it all ends and whether the reward is worth the pain. He Knows!

31 posted on 05/28/2011 5:20:24 AM PDT by TalBlack ( Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: juma

***build storm cellars, or dome buildings so the wind blows around you***

One would think that insurance companies, engineers and architects could have designed structures to withstand or reduce wind damage. Considering the lives, jobs and property losses in the $trillions over several decades it makes sense. Dome-roof homes and even one-story buildings that can descend into the ground. Earthquake retrofit technology.


32 posted on 05/28/2011 5:23:01 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Is it 2012 yet?)
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To: juma
Does anyone believe that maybe, weather patterns happen over a period of time, and its just nature

He's a witch, get him!

33 posted on 05/28/2011 5:38:01 AM PDT by Gumption
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To: Melinda in TN

I grew up in Tornado Alley. I remember years when there were hardly any tornadoes and years when there were big clusters of tornadoes. I can remember sitting in the shelter and listening to the radio describe more than a dozen twisters overhead. My Dad and I took shelter with a farmer and his family while traveling to a distant church once - the funnel cloud we were watching as we traveled, turned and we had to find shelter in just minutes. I firmly believe that this weather comes in cycles and we are experiencing an “up” cycle right now.

I also remember who people helped each other. No one expected FEMA. The churches had relief efforts and people in surrounding areas helped.

You are correct - unless you’ve seen the force of a tornado in person you really have no idea what nature can do.


34 posted on 05/28/2011 5:43:56 AM PDT by Roses0508
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To: pillut48

On Nightline last week, they interviewed a stunned man outside the wreckage of his home, cuts all over his face. He was lying on the floor of his home next to his wife as the tornado passed by. She was snatched away, no trace of her found at that time. 150 still missing. Can’t imagine what they’re going through.


35 posted on 05/28/2011 5:55:44 AM PDT by FlyVet
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To: Niuhuru

What do you think God is doing? Nature is taking its course. He set the seasons in motions millions of years ago and it is following its natural, yearly cycle.


36 posted on 05/28/2011 5:56:10 AM PDT by rabidralph
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To: pillut48

An incredibly sad & tragic story. I feel for the family, especially the Father who will no doubt relive that terrible moment for the rest of his life. I think the worst thing that can happen to someone is to lose a child.

We should all remember that the world is simultaneously a beautiful and terrible place. For every wonderful thing we experience, there are terrors that are out there. Luckily, we live in a country where the good things generally dwarf the bad ones. In the end, its all part of G-d’s grand design. We can’t pretend to understand it or even like it, it just is. We just have to trust that its all for the greater, eventual good.


37 posted on 05/28/2011 6:04:49 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: Niuhuru
The rain falls on the just and the unjust alike.
38 posted on 05/28/2011 6:22:18 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Yesterday I meditated, today I seek balance. That was Zen, this is Tao.)
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To: pillut48

Matthew 5:45(b) NIV He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and unrighteous.


39 posted on 05/28/2011 7:32:24 AM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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To: Roses0508

Cleveland TN, the town I work in and where most of my family lives, was hit in 1974 and I was involved in that one. This one was even worse. I live 18 miles N. of Cleveland now but still work there. The day all the storms hit, we spent most of the day sitting against the wall. When we left at 4:00 they were really bad and a funnel cloud chased me all the way up I-75. I was running 80mph until the hail started and I had to slow down but it caught me a mile from my exit so I took shelter under the bridge. Scary stuff!


40 posted on 05/28/2011 8:09:35 AM PDT by Melinda in TN (My goal in life is to be the person my dog thinks I am.)
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To: pillut48

So sad.


41 posted on 05/28/2011 8:17:17 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: momtothree

Well, tragedy is not a contest one wishes to enter. It’s is traumatic. Some people lose their sanity and never recover from the fear. Some become bitter and resentful things in the aftermath. These are few.

Having lived in hurricane alley and having seen what happens to people when all their stuff is destroyed, what you might consider broken in the aftermath of disaster, could also be looked at as “humbled.” You get stripped of all the illusion and just have yourself with yourself in the aftermath...and a close experience of God’s love and care for those who are fortunate enough to have built up faith going into the disaster.

People who go through this find out real quick how fleeting the material and the plastic impressions and desires of this world are and how everything really does boil down to love for one another. It kind of leaves one naked in a good way spritually, but it is hard to comprehend until you go through it and I hope you never do. There are easier ways to see through the illusions and amorality of modern American life and our misplaced values and priorities.


42 posted on 05/28/2011 8:23:55 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: pillut48

Speak for yourself . I haven’t turned my back on God. This is natures wanton fury, a tornado and a horrible , freak occurrence in it, nothing more. God bless this poor young man and his surviving loved ones.


43 posted on 05/28/2011 12:17:44 PM PDT by jmacusa (Political correctness is cultural Marxism. I'm not a Marxist.)
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To: pillut48

No, God didn’t do this.

Many years ago a young sailor I knew, swerved while driving to avoid hitting an old man jaywalking. His vehicle, only going about 27-28 miles per hour, hit the curb.

This 19 year-old didn’t have his seat belt on, and was thrown through the windshield and over the front of the vehicle. The vehicle lurched forward, ran over and killed him.

Seat belts save lives. Will Norton did not have to die.

Make sure your children are wearing their seat belts and make sure you set the example.


44 posted on 05/28/2011 9:53:47 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: SatinDoll

My understanding was that the force of the tornado snapped the seat belt, and that Will was wearing his seatbelt.


45 posted on 05/28/2011 9:56:09 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

The quote was in the NY Daily News.

The father said he was holding Will when the seat belt snapped and Will was sucked out through the open sunroof.

Father and son were riding in a Hummer.

Have you ever tried to put your arms around someone when you’re on opposite sides of a wide-based SUV, and you’re both wearing seat belts? Not saying it can’t be done, but...

This is a tragedy, in more ways than one.


46 posted on 05/28/2011 10:33:42 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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