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The Battle On the Second Front Has Opened (Knives)
Onlygunsandmoney ^ | 9 June, 2011 | NA

Posted on 06/10/2011 6:16:24 AM PDT by marktwain

As Doug Ritter, chairman of Knife Rights, likes to say, they are the second front in the battle for the Second Amendment. At the 2010 Gun Rights Policy Conference he discussed the plans of his organization to eventually sue the City of New York and District Attorney Cyrus Vance, Jr. over NYC's vague knife laws.

The second front was opened today with a lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York. The attorney of record is David Jensen who some may be familiar with from his work for the Second Amendment Foundation. Below is Knife Rights' release announcing the lawsuit.

Knife Rights Sues New York City

Knife Rights today filed a federal civil rights lawsuit to stop New York City from arresting law-abiding citizens carrying common pocket knives.

The lawsuit challenges New York State law on "gravity knives" and "switchblades," and New York County District Attorney Cyrus Vance's attempt to mischaracterize the most widely-owned pocket knives in America as contraband. The case seeks a judicial determination that the law is unconstitutionally vague as applied to these ordinary pocket knives.

"District Attorney Vance is trying to advance his political career by exploiting a vague state law to demonize common pocket knives," said Knife Rights Chairman Doug Ritter. "In the process, hundreds of law abiding knife owners are being arrested and Vance has extracted nearly $2 million from retailers to avoid prosecution on bogus charges. This lawsuit intends to put a stop to Vance's abusive and unconscionable civil rights violations."

"One-hand opening pocket knives are legal tools, used and carried every day by millions of law-abiding citizens for work, recreation and self-defense," said Ritter. "Shame on D.A. Vance for demonizing common tools and turning honest citizens into criminals for purely political ends."

If you are a retailer or individual who has been targeted for the sale or possession of so-called illegal knives (one-hand opening and assisted opening knives inappropriately claimed to be gravity knives or switchblades), we urge you to immediately contact Knife Rights at: email nycity@KnifeRights.org or call toll-free: 1-866-889-6268. Joining Knife Rights as plaintiffs are two private citizens, John Copeland, an internationally acclaimed artist, and Pedro Perez, an artist and fine art dealer, both New York City residents. The defendants are New York County District Attorney Cyrus Vance, Jr., the New York State Attorney General, and the City of New York. Knife Rights is represented by attorney David Jensen. The lawsuit was filed in U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York.

Knife Rights is supported in this lawsuit by the Knife Rights Foundation Sharper Future Legal Fund™ whose major donors include at Platinum level: Benchmade Knife Co., Blue Ridge Knives, Buck Knives, Columbia River Knife & Tool, Taylor Brands and United Cutlery; Silver level: KnifeWorks.com and Wenger NA; Titanium level: Smokey Mountain Knife Works; Bronze level: Ethan Becker and KA-BAR Knives. Please support those who support your knife rights.

A copy of the complaint can be found here.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; knives; ny
Knives are arms protected by the Second Amendment.
1 posted on 06/10/2011 6:16:27 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

How soon before making a fist will be outlawed? It might be used as a weapon, best we just cut it off, right?


2 posted on 06/10/2011 6:20:27 AM PDT by tpmintx (Liberalism=Envy, backed by Governmental authority. [I'm green; are you?])
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To: marktwain

I always wonder why we don’t “legislatively” attack them. I think everyone should HAVE to have a knife AND a gun! It should be the law, and it should be proposed ... scare the hell out of them, and they would have to spend all their editorial space attacking a ridiculous proposal. (Wimps)


3 posted on 06/10/2011 6:20:43 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (You are just jealous because the voices aren't talking to YOU!)
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To: marktwain

Anyone who has ever had a non-locking pocket knife fold back, or start to fold back, on his fingers will appreciate the absurdity of this.


4 posted on 06/10/2011 6:35:50 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: marktwain; shibumi; humblegunner

Oh bloody hell ping.


5 posted on 06/10/2011 6:38:32 AM PDT by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

I have a dagger fetish.

They *never* fold.

:)


6 posted on 06/10/2011 6:39:37 AM PDT by Salamander (I wear my sunglasses at night.)
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To: marktwain

LOVE the cold Steel Voyager.


7 posted on 06/10/2011 7:18:24 AM PDT by Flintlock (Photo IDs for voters: Let the dead rest in peace!)
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To: marktwain
In the UK there is a serious move to outlaw ALL knives with pointed ends, including kitchen knives.

I have a one-hand opening Swiss Army knife in my jacket pocket right now. It most definitely is not a switchblade. It took me a few days of practice to get comfortable/fast in opening it with one hand. I saw/tried a few (legal) button-push-open type of knives before deciding to go with the Swiss Army knife. Is the button-push what is called a "gravity knife?"

8 posted on 06/10/2011 7:22:07 AM PDT by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: Martin Tell
In the UK there is a serious move to outlaw ALL knives with pointed ends, including kitchen knives.

What about pointed sticks?

9 posted on 06/10/2011 7:23:16 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Martin Tell
"Is the button-push what is called a "gravity knife?"

"Gravity knife" is the new "assault weapon." It's a catch-all term that will be continuously expanded at the whim of the police state.

Strictly speaking a 'gravity' knife opens using a flick of a wrist and inertia to open the blade (as opposed to a spring like a switchblade). Some lock open, some don't. Looser definitions have been applied to simply refer to any folding knife that can be opened with one hand.

10 posted on 06/10/2011 7:29:27 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: tpmintx

As has been oft repeated: All you need to make an edged weapon is a material that will hold one and a way to make it sharp.

A knife or ‘Shiv’ can be made by anyone out of metal, plastic, stone, etc.

All that needs to be done is get the material and sharpen it.

On a basic level, a weapon is anything that can be used to apply destructive force (preferably at a distance) . That can mean just about anything – tree branch, rock, brick, laser, M1911A1, Thermonuclear devices, etc..

Bottom line WE CAN NEVER RID OURSELFS OF WEAPONRY. So there is no point in pretending that we can.

The only solution is to be armed to defend yourself – be it criminals or governments.


11 posted on 06/10/2011 9:04:43 AM PDT by Voice of Reason1 ("Absolute power corrupts absolutely” Lord Acton 1887)
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To: Joe 6-pack

There’s a guy that came to a local gunshow in Oregon that makes holsters for Buck knives.They allow a one-hand draw motion that is amazingly fast.


12 posted on 06/10/2011 10:51:05 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

There’s a guy that came to a local gunshow in Oregon that makes holsters for Buck knives.They allow a one-hand draw motion that is amazingly fast.


13 posted on 06/10/2011 10:51:05 AM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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