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How to survive a Depression today
howtosurviveadepressiontoday ^ | 6-2011

Posted on 06/12/2011 8:42:06 AM PDT by doug from upland

How to survive a depression

How to Survive A Depression Today Solutions On This Site - How To Survive A Depression A Global Depression Survival Store and Resource Site

Many of us are wondering how to survive a depression today in 2010. Current global economies appear to be on a downward spiral and there is no end in sight. Everyday there's a new industry that is tanking. The key is to plan on how to survive a depression without anyone telling you that a depression is full swing. By the time they tell you it's a depression it will be to late to ask, "How to survive a depression?"

People are getting laid off daily and some towns appear to be shut down. Do a search on Abandoned Cities and you'll see how our current economy is affecting the United States. Many countries are recommending a one world currency and this should shake the very heart of each citizen around the world. Yes, this is a global ecomomic crisis. Many are stocking up on food and water now.

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This site is here to assist with finding necessary products and services to help us know how to survive a depression today. Survival is the only option. Not tomorrow, but today is the moment we are in and proper planning is a necessity. In this site you will find survival videos, heirloom seeds, planting methods, Chemical/Bio Warfare equipment, water filtration systems, survival and first aid kits, e-books, and numerous other products. Time is of the essence and we need to aquire these supplies so we will know how to survive a depression today. Our survival is at stake.

A few people are trying to determine what is an economic depression or what could lead up to one. Lets analyze Irving Fisher's thoughts and see what lead up to the Great Depression. Irving Fisher was an American economist, health campaigner, a eugenicist, and one of the earliest American neoclassical economists. Maybe we can get an insight on how to survive a depression today:

According to the Wikipedia, Irving Fisher argued that the predominant factor leading to the Great Depression was overindebtedness and deflation. Fisher tied loose credit to over-indebtedness, which fueled speculation and asset bubbles. He then outlined 9 factors interacting with one another under conditions of debt and deflation to create the mechanics of boom to bust. The chain of events proceeded as follows:

1. Debt liquidation and distress selling

2. Contraction of the money supply as bank loans are paid off

3. A fall in the level of asset prices

4. A still greater fall in the net worths of business, precipitating bankruptcies

5. A fall in profits

6. A reduction in output, in trade and in employment.

7. Pessimism and loss of confidence

8. Hoarding of money

9. A fall in nominal interest rates and a rise in deflation adjusted interest rates.

How To Survive A Depression Today? Current Survival Situation In 2010

Now we should ask ourselves, is any of this happening today? We would have to say yes, it is definitely occurring in our present time. There are so many bailouts that I've lost track. Higher unforeseen taxes are being implemented and states are starting to apply for their State's Soveignty. Can you believe there is such a tax as the Storm Water Run Off Tax? We may even end up having a carbon tax within the next year. The hand writing is on the wall. Would you know how to survive a depression today? What if you woke up and the government was on the news saying it was a depression? Hopefully you would already have food and water for several months for your family. Going to the grocery store may not be a good idea with fellow citizens panicking. At least you can have confidence in knowing that your family has prepared for the worse. Your survival depends on it.

With all of this excess government spending and dire condition of our economy, we could very easily tumble into a depression. This brings me back to the original question, how to survive a depression today? Global survival is in jeopardy. Lack of preparation can be detrimental. You can be in the UK, Italy, Germany, Canada, Vietnam, Korea, China, Africa, Iran, Australia, UAE, or even Saudi Arabia. You are still part of this global agenda. Together we'll show others how to survive a depresstion today in 2010.

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There are a few things we can start doing. This way when a person asks, "How to survive a depression today?" Lets at least have some answers for the upcoming years. The survival investments we'll focus on may be life-saving tips and may help with how to survive a depression today.

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Take your time while on this survival site. We have furnished many solutions to assist with this possible event. I'd rather not ask, "How to survive a depression today?" We can know the ways ahead of time. Survival preparation is the key. We will even provide links to legitimate work from home jobs that you can start doing part time, just in case your current position is eliminated. How to survive a depression will depend on us thinking outside of the box. Lets go further into this unique survival site to see what it has to offer. **If you think this is a joke, see the failed banks list as of October 2000.


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1 posted on 06/12/2011 8:42:13 AM PDT by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland

bfl


2 posted on 06/12/2011 8:54:33 AM PDT by onona (I play hockey)
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To: doug from upland

Our state government has, without public discussion, decided to drain our lake that provides water for our tiny lakeside community, irrigation water to the surrounding ranches, nearest town (pop. <> 10000)that partly survives because of lake tourism, and the farms south of that town.
Overnight, our properties are worthless, our wells at risk, with a mostly retired, very low income population with no place to go.
The state is doing this to save money without any regard for lost jobs, lost tax revenue, and the devastated little people.
I found your survival list almost humorous in our situation.


3 posted on 06/12/2011 8:55:57 AM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: WestwardHo

I understand. It is not my list; I’m just passing on what I found. We are in worse financial shape than anyone can imagine. Obama happy talk is not helping, and this nation is leaderless.


4 posted on 06/12/2011 9:00:53 AM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: doug from upland

Unfortunately, many people that work for a living can’t AFFORD to ‘survive’ a depression.

We have taken measures, but are still far from where I’d like us to be. Need to store up some food and other items. We have LOTS of ‘hardware’, but firearms and ammo make for a crappy meal when one gets hungry. Some Gold and Silver would also be nice for high end bartering.


5 posted on 06/12/2011 9:01:16 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: reed13; reed13k

Bfl


6 posted on 06/12/2011 9:07:37 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: KoRn
We have taken measures, but are still far from where I’d like us to be

I don't know that I'll ever be where I'd like for us to be, in this regard. Progress, not perfection, and the list is ever growing, it seems. So, too are the number of people who will rely on me and my wife if the SHTF. More to pull weeds, in the garden, I guess.

7 posted on 06/12/2011 9:10:10 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: doug from upland

Bookmarked the site for closer reading. It is amazing to me the number of people I encounter who are essentially oblivious to what is going on around them.

It’s gonna hit them like a thunderbolt.


8 posted on 06/12/2011 9:15:55 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: WestwardHo
Our state government has, without public discussion, decided to drain our lake

Where do you live? Can you get a restraining order? Can everybody band together and get a media event on this? How does draining a lake save money?

9 posted on 06/12/2011 9:19:10 AM PDT by BipolarBob (There, but for the lack of Jose Cuervo, stumble I.)
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To: doug from upland

bfl


10 posted on 06/12/2011 9:19:39 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (Blacks are not inferior, but it is racist to hold them to the same standards as everyone else.)
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To: KoRn

>>Need to store up some food and other items.<<

When did you first become aware of the possibility of serious declines in every aspect of the economy? Unplug the TV and cancel you cable service.


11 posted on 06/12/2011 9:26:17 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: Kartographer; blam

Ping.


12 posted on 06/12/2011 9:38:16 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: doug from upland

I want to hear about this “how to grow food in an apartment” thing!
Rototilling the carpet can be a real b*tch but once you break through the neighbor’s ceiling you’re all set.


13 posted on 06/12/2011 9:39:35 AM PDT by Rytas
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To: doug from upland

I was thinking this meant mental “depression”....which is where I’m going if I keep reading this stuff....


14 posted on 06/12/2011 9:41:38 AM PDT by goodnesswins (...both islam and the democrat plantation thrive on poverty)
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To: KoRn

>We have taken measures, but are still far from where I’d like us to be. Need to store up some food and other items. We have LOTS of ‘hardware’, but firearms and ammo make for a crappy meal when one gets hungry. Some Gold and Silver would also be nice for high end bartering.<

You’ve got the means to obtain food. Not just the commonly thought of game animals can be taken, but you can eat groundhog, raccoon, squirrel and if all else fails, possum (gag). Can you have chickens? They will survive on scraps and forage, plus they produce eggs you can either eat or you can use for barter. You need a rooster to protect your hens and to fertilize the eggs, making them even more valuable to folks wanting to barter for their own flock. You can raise chicks and keep the pullets, while raising the surplus roosters for the table.

In addition, with a little research you’d be surprised at how many native plants
are edible. Dandelion greens and the ever-present plantain can be good additions to the table.


15 posted on 06/12/2011 9:47:23 AM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: goodnesswins

Paying today’s grocery prices would put me in Depression.

But I don’t have to pay them.

I’ve been prepared and preparing further for years...

Coz when the SHTF, people better be prepared to have an extra bowl of thin soup, or have their neighbors kill them for theirs.


16 posted on 06/12/2011 9:54:33 AM PDT by Freddd (NoPA ngineers.)
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To: KoRn
Beans and rice are quite nutrituous (although vitamins are still needed) ... and packed properly they can store up to 30 years at room temp.

A 5-gallon bucket packed with beans and rice can feed a person two meals a day for a month. You can pack a bunch of those buckets in a single day. It's a good idea to also have one or two pantries full of canned goods to compliment that, including some canned meat and spices to cook with the beans and rice.

17 posted on 06/12/2011 10:06:11 AM PDT by The Duke
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To: doug from upland; DuncanWaring
Top Post-Collapse Barter Items And Trade Skills
18 posted on 06/12/2011 10:12:00 AM PDT by blam
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To: The Duke

Thanks! Good to know!


19 posted on 06/12/2011 10:14:44 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: The Duke
"A 5-gallon bucket packed with beans and rice can feed a person two meals a day for a month. You can pack a bunch of those buckets in a single day."

Very good input. I've packed away many more of these than I'll ever use/need.

A food surplus is good.

20 posted on 06/12/2011 10:23:29 AM PDT by blam
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To: The Duke
BTW...

I recommend freezing the beans and rice for a week or two before packing in the five gallon buckets. Freezing kills any bugs and their eggs.

21 posted on 06/12/2011 10:26:06 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

If you can some of those dried beans it’ll give you a quick base for meals, without having to soak the beans overnight. You can add a few bits of salt pork to the beans for flavoring. I think home canned pintos are better than store bought.


22 posted on 06/12/2011 10:30:01 AM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
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To: doug from upland

Both my parents lived through the Great Depression and while things were bad it was not a post apocalypse Mad Max world. People did what they could to get by, raised their own food and preserved it by canning, mended and reused clothing and learned to conserve what you had. People survived and even in the worst hit areas on the Great Plains there was no breakdown in society. Perhaps today in urban areas where a culture of government dependence and violence exists there may be riots, but in fly over country we will get along like our parents and grandparents did.


23 posted on 06/12/2011 10:33:24 AM PDT by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: doug from upland
Do a recon in your nearest dollar store. The stuff I get there for a buck is amazing....and the money I save is unbelieveable.

For instance, I quite using my 6-bucks-a-can rug shampoo for carpeting spots. I now use a $1 can of Barbasol Shaving Soap in an aerosol can from the dollar store. It works the same, just spray a blob on, let it sit, dip your little brush in a dab of water and scrub off the stain (a hint from Helloise, BTW).

Yesterday, I bought a quality oven mitt, sandwich bags, eyeshadow, a bag of ice cream dixie cups, a large bottle of dishwashing soap plus a great door decoration for the Fourth of July....each item only a dollar.....only $6 total for that list.

Our dollar store is jammed every day now with more and more folks discovering the tremendous amount of money they can save during this horrible inflation. The dollar stores stay at a dollar and don't inflate. I make my purchases at "The Dollar Tree" store.

I wish I had bought stock in the company.

Leni

24 posted on 06/12/2011 10:44:36 AM PDT by MinuteGal (Bring Back the MISERY INDEX! Obama's INDEX! Include Food & Energy in a TRUTHFUL INDEX!)
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To: BipolarBob

Where do you live? Can you get a restraining order? Can everybody band together and get a media event on this? How does draining a lake save money?

We live in the high plains of NM. “They” started releasing water way early this spring, in fact, implimenting their decision, but keeping it all secret. Just this week the news got out. Especially evil as we are in the midst of a major drought...no rain since October.

One stupid, female legislator set this in motion, and everyone else jumped.
There is a public meeting coming up, but we’re sensing it’s a done deal.
Totally stupid, senseless, and apart from doing great harm to people, and the all important fish, environment, blah, blah, blah, purposeless.
As you know, “the inmates are running the asylum” is a gross understatement and an insult to the mentally impaired.


25 posted on 06/12/2011 11:25:12 AM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: B4Ranch

There is a great list in my Preparedness Manual called: The First Hundred Things to Disappear When SHTF, I recomend preppers to study it. That list and much more is avaiable in my Preparedness Manual which you can downloard at:

http://www.tomeaker.com/kart/preparedness1i.pdf

If you haven’t already it’s time to prepare. You needed to be stocking up on food guns, ammo, basic household supplies like soap, papergoods, cleaning supplies, good sturdy clothes including extra socks, underwear and extra shoes and boots, a extra couple changes of oil and filters for your car, tools, things you buy everyday start buying two and put one up.

I think that we are at the very least in for a collapse much like that of Argentina’s ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yerKMQc7-w&feature=grec_index), but as a armed society with a very large entitlement minded population our collapse will be much more violent and I see many many small business wiped out by flash mob looting, and large scale violence (look at what happened just this past Memorial Day weekend)and then there is this is going on in Chicago:”Emanuel said he spoke with McCarthy over the weekend and again this morning about the situation. The mayor said the city’s reputation as a safe place to work and shop downtown is being endangered by the thuggery. Many of the attacks are happening near the biggest tourist and shopping attractions in the city.

But, CBS 2’s Jim Williams reports, the problem of mob attacks downtown is much bigger than the weekend beatings, according to beat cops who wanted to remain anonymous.”

And it’s not just Chicago most major big ‘Blue’ cities are increasingly reporting such flash mobs and gang muggings.

I see what I call ‘Pocket Pogroms’ taking place in many big ‘Blue’ cities and if you aren’t a “0bamamites’ yute” it’s going to get Reginald Denny bad for you very quickly.

As the LDS say “When the emergency is upon us the time for preparedness has past.”

Or as the bible says: A prudent man sees danger and takes refuge, but the simple keep going and suffer for it.
NIV Proverbs 22:3

And a little something for those who do not believe:
“Chance favors the prepared mind.”-Louis Pasteur


26 posted on 06/12/2011 12:22:44 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

PING!!


27 posted on 06/12/2011 12:23:51 PM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: MinuteGal

Our 99 cents store has fresh and frozen food - strawberries, blueberries, tomatoes, 6-oz chicken, salmon, milk, butter, eggs, bread, cheese, etc. For those on a really tight budget, shopping there instead of 7-11 will allow a family to eat well for just a small amount of money. All the food your family would need can be purchased here.


28 posted on 06/12/2011 12:43:13 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: Rytas

It’s quite easy to put up some shelves in an apartment for foodstuffs. Windows and patios/balconies can be used for container gardening or closets for (legal) mushrooms. Sure, a few container veggies aren’t going to feed the neighborhood so think of it as a fun experiment or lesson for the kids.


29 posted on 06/12/2011 12:44:36 PM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: blam
I vacuum seal convenient sizes (like 4 pounds of beans) with an O2 absorber and freeze for a week. Never had a problem. You can shape vacuum seal bags into different form(s) with some creativity.
30 posted on 06/12/2011 12:50:38 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Demons run when a good man goes to war.)
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To: doug from upland
Doug my FRiend, I wouldn't buy anything from the $ store that goes in or on my body. Be careful with that!
31 posted on 06/12/2011 12:53:18 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Demons run when a good man goes to war.)
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To: KoRn

Hey...there are a few important details about packing away beans and rice that are worth noting .. for example being sure you are using ‘food grade’ buckets (that have never been
used for non-food purposes), using mylar bags that are at least 4.5 mls thick, etc.

I’m in the middle of writing a book on disaster preparedness.
I’ll include a link here you can use to download that ‘work in progress’ - it already has a lot of important information that is the result of a couple of years of constant study. Here’s a link to download a ‘sneak peak’:

http://allita.net/PracticalPrepper.pdf


32 posted on 06/12/2011 12:58:24 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: blam
I've heard that pre-freezing is a good idea. Thanks for that bit of advice.

What I've done to deal with possible bugs was to sprinkle in some "DE powder" on the food before sealing. Also, I would imagine the lack of oxygen would also hamper insects.

BTW, here's a link to the disaster preparedness book I've been working on (with some chapters still unfinished):

http://allita.net/PracticalPrepper.pdf

33 posted on 06/12/2011 1:02:57 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: mad_as_he$$

The strawberries there are the same brand Von’s is selling across the street for three times as much.


34 posted on 06/12/2011 1:46:05 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: doug from upland
Great!!! Around here it is almost all canned etc. Nothing fresh and all from China.
35 posted on 06/12/2011 3:29:15 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Demons run when a good man goes to war.)
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To: blam

Freeze all the grains, flours etc for at least 5 days to kill the bugs. Most White flour has mite eggs in it. Little black bugs that you can cook and eat for their protein value, myself I prefer to freeze the eggs.


36 posted on 06/12/2011 3:39:02 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are...)
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To: The Duke
Looks very good:

The Practical Prepper's Handbook(PDF)

37 posted on 06/12/2011 3:53:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: The Duke

In “Todo #4” you might want to check the number of “zeros” in the quantities of beans and rice ... there seems to be at least one inconsistency.


38 posted on 06/12/2011 4:54:08 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: The Duke

Agree.... It don’t have to be fancy.


39 posted on 06/12/2011 5:23:49 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: doug from upland

Thanks.


40 posted on 06/12/2011 5:58:36 PM PDT by Joya (Jesus is coming back. Something to look forward to, it is more than enough.)
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To: The Duke; blam; Quix

Thanks for the link/hat-tip to blam/Qx. ping.
.

http://allita.net/PracticalPrepper.pdf

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41 posted on 06/12/2011 6:00:35 PM PDT by Joya (Jesus is coming back. Something to look forward to, it is more than enough.)
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To: DuncanWaring
In “Todo #4” you might want to check the number of “zeros” in the quantities of beans and rice..

Thanks, will do. :) I'm hoping to finish the sanitation chapter this week, which I consider one of the more important. I'm also pulling in some subject-matter-experts as co-authors for the exercise, defense and first aid chapters.

42 posted on 06/12/2011 6:03:29 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: The Duke; blam; doug from upland

Thanks for all the info.

Hey, Doug—long time no see.

ARE YOU OK????


43 posted on 06/12/2011 7:00:37 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: WestwardHo

Could it be a scheme to sink property values and buy the properties up later on the cheap? I’ve seen schemes like that in a state to the north, along with grand schemes to develop the properties later and other schemes to give the properties to local governments.


44 posted on 06/13/2011 3:40:15 PM PDT by familyop (Shut up, and eat your brains!)
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To: doug from upland

I just did a google search, and there’s one not 10 miles from here that I didn’t know about. Think I’ll check it out with my Mom tomorrow! Self-employed and the budget is getting EXTREMELY tight, this might help a lot!


45 posted on 06/13/2011 4:12:39 PM PDT by Mama Shawna
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To: Quix

Doing okay, my friend, but working way too hard to survive this depression.


46 posted on 06/13/2011 4:29:47 PM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: doug from upland

Things are getting interesting alright.

Does your email still work? Didn’t get one back and wasn’t sure.

Mine’s the same one.


47 posted on 06/13/2011 6:04:43 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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