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There is a familiar pattern taking place lately on threads relating to Obama’s eligibility. First the Obots attack and belittle other freepers, then they post some bogus links that most people won't bother to follow. It is pure Alinsky... directly from the Obama play book.

The same thing happened to me on another thread after I mentioned that when I and many other Freepers were in school that we were taught that a Natural Born Citizen was a person born in the country with two citizen parents. First I was attacked and ridiculed and told to provide a textbook that backed what I was saying up. I replied that I had been searching for textbooks from the time period that might have been used during the time that I went to school but that they were very difficult to find.

I received more ridicule and comments that there were “truckloads” of them available on Amazon. I replied that the poster must have been much better at searching Amazon than I was and to please post links to civics textbooks from the time period from the 1950s through the mid 1970s. I received a half dozen links, I followed every one, but not one was a link to a civics textbook from the time period asked for. One of the books linked to was from 1890 and was available free in Kindle format. It didn't have even one reference to “natural born” anywhere in it. The other books were from 1920 through 1930. It was a complete waste of my time. It was all grandstanding and an attempt to gain legitimacy by posting irrelevant links. Amazon does not appear to have any civics textbooks from the time period when I attended school. Even the obots here could not find one.

I am highly offended by some of the remarks that have been made here by freedomwarrior998. If you would like to get to know where he or she is coming from take a look at http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/by:freedomwarrior998/index?tab=comments;brevity=full;options=no-change. Even the posts that I generally agree with are worded in such a nasty way that I have a difficult time reading them without feeling angry. freedomwarrior998, in my opinion your abrasive writing style completely overpowers any point you are trying to make. I don't think being a bully is an effective way to win people over to your point of view.

I agree with you that bullying is not an effective way to win people to your point of view.

I was personally attacked, by my count, 63 times in 5 days (yes, I ended up counting), after trying to make rational arguments in regard to some of this stuff. Okay, I realize I was kind of raining on the parade of quite a few people who want to believe all of what Donofrio and the other birther guys write. And I probably should’ve just ignored accusations of being an obot and a troll, instead of responding to a lot of them. Still, as far as I see, the vast majority of such attacks and conflicts - I certainly don’t say all, but most - seem to be started by birthers against fellow freepers who are trying to make rational arguments and rational analysis to honestly say whether there’s really anything there or not.

So what happens if we find that none of the birther arguments make sense? At some point, we’ll have to move on. I’m not arguing that we have to do that now. We’ve still got a good deal of time before election season heats up to talk more about this.

I just hope we can do so in a civil manner.