Posted on 07/15/2011 5:23:36 AM PDT by marktwain
“Smoking gun” emails and other recent revelations about “Operation Fast and Furious” — and other gunrunning operations by agencies of President Obama’s executive branch — have backed the mainstream media into a corner: they have been responding with silence or with outright deception.
One need look no further than CNN, where syndicated columnist (and PJMedia contributor) Ruben Navarrette Jr. delivered a whopper of a lie Thursday [1], claiming that the administration’s attempt to create rifle reporting requirements actually affects machine guns. He claimed:
"The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives has decided to try to clean up Dodge City by requiring gun dealers in California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas to report bulk sales of automatic weapons."
He also wrote:
"Do you remember the part of the Constitution where it says that people have the right to buy two or more automatic weapons within five days without law enforcement knowing anything about it? Me neither."
Automatic weapons were not among those being trafficked from American gun shops to Mexican cartels.
Not a single one.
They have been heavily regulated since the National Firearms Act of 1934, and in the 77 years since that became the law of the land, machine guns like those you would find in a a few specialized gun shops have been used in just two [2] illegal homicides.
In yet another unsigned editorial [3], the New York Times leads with the blatant fabrication that 70 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States. This is the most recent talking point created by Democrats [4], released just before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform heard testimony from ATF whistleblowers about Operation Fast and Furious in June.
The statistical misrepresentation is a variation of the 90 percent lie [5] that the Obama administration has been using since the president was inaugurated. In actuality, 83 percent of guns used by the cartels come from somewhere other than the United States, and of the 17 percent traced to U.S. origins, roughly 8 percent were traced to U.S. gun shops.
Plus, we now know that a substantial portion of the weapons that transited gun shops did so as a direct result of federal law enforcement agencies telling dealers to make questionable sales to suspected cartel gun runners.
A fact the Times conveniently and purposefully ignores.
In addition to using debunked statistical lies, the Times tells Americans what they think the laws are — or rather, what they wish they were:
"These guns have no legitimate place in civilian life and were banned outright for 10 years until Congress and two successive administrations failed to fight for the ban’s renewal."
That, too, is a series of blatant lies [6]. A handful of specific guns were banned by name, but so-called assault weapons were never “banned outright.” In fact, sales of these firearms actually increased during the decade-long fiasco known as the “assault weapons ban.”
Despite what the grandstanding editors of the Times claim, AK and AR-pattern semi-automatic (self-loading firearms that fire one shot per trigger pull) rifles are extremely common, with the latter becoming known as modern sporting rifles [7] and finding a home in practical shooting competitions, home defense, target shooting, and in hunting applications for nearly every kind of large and small game animal in North America.
The deceptive language used by administration champions in the media is hardly accidental. The disarming of the proles has long been a goal of the liberal elite that are the authors and audience of the various bi-coastal establishment news outlets, and they are more than willing to be duplicitous to manipulate their readers.
The Times editors presumably know little of firearms from firsthand experience, but are certainly intelligent enough to know the practical and academic differences between a military or law enforcement machine gun and a civilian rifle. They simply choose to conflate the two when it suits their attempt to influence the masses, and as we’ve shown above, they’re more than willing to fabricate when fudging the truth won’t do. Their peers have also demonstrated that they are more than willing to attack the messenger [8] if they think they can get away with it.
Unfortunately for the administration, however, even the most loyal of media sycophants can’t cover a scandal as large as Gunwalker appears to be.
The public is too well-educated, the evidence of probable criminality too blatant and widespread. The administration’s apparent plan to use gun violence to spur support for gun control efforts has become Watergate with a body count, and no amount of media deception or spin, or party [9] misdirection [10], can save them from the consequences of their actions.
Gunwalker ping.
He will escape this just like everything else. ALL rep's in Washington are a part of the "system" and don't have the nads to hold this man accountable for anything. He put out a FORGED BC and nobody cares!!! Are you kidding me? The president of the United States gave us a FORGED BC and its OK. We are screwed folks, get ready for civil war, its coming.
The MSM is an endless lie.
Gunwalker is Obama’s Reichstag fire, and the state propaganda “media” is just doing it’s job.
“Automatic weapons were not among those being trafficked from American gun shops to Mexican cartels.”
No? They were all bolt, lever, or pump action? Or revolvers maybe. Perhaps single shots.
But not any semi-automatic weapons. I find that hard to believe, although I can easily believe no fully-automatic weapons were involved.
I disagree. This is similar to the Monica Lewinski scandal. The media ignored it as long as they could. Then they made excuses. Then it got too big to ignore. But, unlike the ML scandal, people died. The Mex Govt says 150 innocents died in Mexico linked to these guns, and want to try those responsible. We lost two Feds. This has legs.
We now know the gun used in AZ came from a Dallas area gunshop in a sister operation to F&F. IIRC, there were over 4,000 operations according to the JD official in the tape someone posted on FR a few days ago, all supported with stimulus money. I think someone alluded to a Philadelphia op. Who were they armining there? Who wants to bet there was one in Chicago? Get your popcorn and sodas ready.
An automatic weapon is not a semi-automatic. An automatic weapon will fire more than one round per trigger pull. A semi-automatic will only fire one round per sqeeze. The media intentionally tries to blur the difference.
Any citizen who truly believes the MSM has been, is, or will continue to publish the (any) FACTS is advised to seek professional help as soon as possible. You do need help.
An automatic weapon may be semi-automatic or fully-automatic. The “automatic” is inherent in the nomenclature.
“An automatic weapon will fire more than one round per trigger pull.”
If it is fully-automatic, it will fire a round then automatically chamber and fire subsequent rounds till none are left or the trigger is released. When the trigger is released the weapon will have automatically cocked, ready to fire (given more ammunition) with the next pull of the trigger.
“A semi-automatic will only fire one round per sqeeze.”
Agreed. And it will automatically chamber another round and automatically cock, readying itself to fire again with the next squeeze.
“The media intentionally tries to blur the difference.”
Undoubtedly, but I believe the language used by the firearms community has become corrupted.
In regard to the Automatic Colt Pistol line of cartridges (the .25 ACP, .32 ACP, .380 ACP and .45 ACP:
Which of the cartridges was first developed for use in what you among many refer to as an automatic weapon and and which for a semi-automatic weapon?
For those first developed for a semi-automatic weapon, how long was it before they were used in a fully-automatic weapon?
Has there ever been a fully-automatic weapon that fires the .25 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) cartridge, other than something custom made?
What's the significance of the word “Automatic” in the designation “Automatic Colt Pistol”?
If this has legs why aren’t our rep’s already calling for hearings and investigations on this from the roof tops? Why are they acting like the media and trying to hold this story down as long as they can? I have no confidence in the truth getting out anymore. Just look at the BC forgery deal, what gives there? I would think this would make at least 1 “journalist” want to be the one to truly expose this forgery. ITS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES PUTTING OUT A FORGED BC!!!!! This should be HUGE NEWS! Nothing.
Ignorance on parade!
We need more people reminding their elected representatives that they took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic.
If the media was not dominated by the "Progressive" mediacracy, this would be front page news in the papers and the networks.
automatic weapon. Definition. noun. a firearm which will continue to reload itself and fire for as long as pressure is applied to the trigger (e.g. a machine-gun)
As you will notice, no qualifier is part of the term "automatic weapon" in this definition.
However, the qualifier "semi" is used to differentiate the weapon, as shown in this definition, again from militarydictionary.com...
semi-automatic weapon. Definition. noun. a firearm which reloads itself after each shot (e.g. a self-loading rifle)
Bearing that in mind, you posted:
From militarydictionary.com...
automatic weapon. Definition. noun. a firearm which will continue to reload itself and fire for as long as pressure is applied to the trigger (e.g. a machine-gun)
semi-automatic weapon. Definition. noun. a firearm which reloads itself after each shot (e.g. a self-loading rifle)
Stipulating for the sake of discussion the correctness of the above:
1. The following sentence from http://www.colt.com/mil/history.asp indicates ignorance on the part of Colt when they write about their own firearms: "In 1960, another milestone in the history of Colt began with the introduction of the AR-15 semiautomatic rifle, followed by the M16 military full-automatic version."
2. At the same site, when they write "The Combat Government Model and the .380 Government Model automatic pistols were introduced in 1984", the pistols of which they write must be "a firearm which will continue to reload itself and fire for as long as pressure is applied to the trigger (e.g. a machine-gun)"
3. At the same site, when they write "The new Colt .22 Automatic was introduced in 1993, along with the M4 rifle", the "new Colt .22 Automatic" must be "a firearm which will continue to reload itself and fire for as long as pressure is applied to the trigger (e.g. a machine-gun)"
4. When you Google "colt automatic pistol" all the references that come up (including one about a "1903 Colt Automatic .32 Hammerless Pistol" are for "a firearm which will continue to reload itself and fire for as long as pressure is applied to the trigger (e.g. a machine-gun)"
5. Your response to my questions (Especially the first one) about Automatic Colt Pistol cartridges should be very interesting. Please do respond.
Ending the above stipulation, I say again that the language has become corrupted. It doesn't match history or reality.
And semiautomatic is a subset of automatic as is full or fully automatic.
All I can do is agree wholeheartedly that firearms terminology and language is very convoluted, complex, confusing, and even corrupted. It's up to us to try to make sense of it all. Not an easy task, when we consider for example that a .380 Auto is also called a .380 ACP and also called a 9mm Kurz and also called a 9mm Corto and also called a 9mm Browning!
I pulled the following from a website about caliber confusion.
ACP? ACP means "Automatic Colt Pistol." You'll find it used to designate many different cartridges which were originally designed by the Colt Firearms Company to be fired through semi-automatic or automatic firearms.
The back and forth of discussions about firearms, ammo, etc. will keep gun forums busy for all eternity. I was glad to discuss this with ya in the civil FReeper way. Have a great day.
“Have a great day.”
And the same to yourself :)
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