Posted on 07/25/2011 5:12:20 AM PDT by radioone
The false narrative is that the Tea Party is a bunch of stubborn nuts, if not outright racists. In truth, the Tea Party has been right about everything, while almost everyone else has been nuts, especially the "experts."
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The Tea Party refuses to embrace social issues like abortion & gay marraige. Until they do, they will be a failure. Social issues go hand-in-hand with fiscal ones. Their unwillingness to admit that waters down their entire goal & they will fail. Period.
It wasn’t long ago that The Tea Party was a group of meaningless little knats, according to the MSM.
Look no further than your own heart, and if you truly care about righteousness and virtue, you will know that the Tea Party is here for an honorable purpose...
...to save God, our families, ourselves, and America from the treachery of RINOS and the ObamaNation!
By "embrace", do you mean "agree with"? Many if not most of the tea party have made themselves clear on how they feel about murdering babies and eroding the sanctity of marriage.
Tea Party = TEA = Taxed Enough Already. The TEA party is trying to save the country, without which the other stuff you mention won’t matter. Right? I’m passionately pro-life and for years profiled all I voted for through this lense. If a politician is willing to deny basic Constitutional rights to the unborn, they will deny anyone anything.
But this election season, it’s the economy stupid. We save the country from the mismanagement by our own stupid government or we don’t. All else comes secondary.
A spine.
A terrific article which I’m saving. Thanks for posting it.
“The Tea Party refuses to embrace social issues”
I wouldn’t say “refuses”. Looking back at the Tea Party movement prior to the 2010 elections, the focus was on “economics”, ie, debt, spending, and taxes. Look at the “raging firestorm” currently going on in DC. One battle at a time is enough.
I am a social conservative. I don't voter for politicians who support abortion. I don't support homosexual marriage.
I am also a fiscal conservative.
I believe that smaller government will lead to more social conservatism (if Uncle Sugar won't rescue people, people will make better choices).
I believe that more social conservatism will lead to smaller government (if I take responsibility for myself, why do I need a big government?)
These things are linked and while they could be pursued in parallel, they can also each be used as a starting place to get to the other. Given the financial crisis, I think that the Tea Party's emphasis on fiscal conservatism makes sense and is a good starting point. I believe this is an easier "sell" to the voters right now. I also believe that it will eventually help us achieve more social conservarism.
I don't see a problem with the Tea Party not also emphasizing social issues.
'Social isssues', to the extent they require any type of governmental 'embrace', were evisaged to be matters for the several states to work out by their respective residents.
FedGov was specifically chartered with a very limited brief, the subsequent cumulative violation of that intent having delivered us into the clutches of Leviathan.
I would say that being part of the Tea party gives a person a different view of who wants control of America, its like our impenetrable shield against everything anti-America, sorry I saw Captain America and I still feel the patriotism that has been lost for almost 70 years.
The movie was good, a mixture of the past and it being introduced into the future.
The Tea Party itself does not ask anyone to read from little red books or to tell us to wear certain clothes or colors, or to wear a beret. The Tea Party is truly an honest definition of a popularity movement that is everything against that wishes a change for the worse upon America.
The Founders all stated that freedom can not exist without virtue. Virtue was synonymous with “happiness” because the Founders all knew that if you are not virtuous you will not attain happiness. Our legal system was based on moral principles of God’s standard of right and wrong—it is where OUR rights come from—the Creator.
They want to play the game of economics and kick out the Creator, with no Universal/Absolute rules, which the Founders demanded. It is like trying to play a basketball game with everyone creating their own rules—moral relativism. It never works—we have to have one standard and our government was designed to have Supra Positive law—which is higher than Hitler-type law —that unequal political man-made-up law, based on no higher standards of right and wrong than Hitler’s or Marx.
Natural Law Theory (Locke, Blackstone) was the Constitution’s basic philosophy—throw out the laws of nature and God’s law and you destroy the meaning and intent of the document.
They want chaos if they do not accept God’s standard of right and wrong—Right Reason according to Nature (teleological design of God’s creation as understood by the Bible).
You get “homosexual marriage and abortion and ‘do whatever the urge’ no matter how dysfunctional and damaging to civil society and freedom of others—even if it destroys inalienable rights of babies and destroys freedom of conscience and religion. There is no God—then we have no Natural Rights because they come from God and nature’s design.-
When people remove God from the legal system, we will become like Nazi Germany and someone will fill the void of no God. Nuremberg trials said there are Supra Positive Laws that make Hitler’s null and void.
Yes—we saw how well that works in Germany and Russia and all of Africa—moral relativism where you can just make anyone God. Tyranny and Evil.
I'm not sure of your logic here. Social and fiscal issues are separate entities. However, it is true that most fiscal foibles can be attributed to anti-constitutional social interpretations of "rights". As long as we keep spending and feeding these social maladies, we cannot stop them or get our fiscal house in order. If we start using fiscal prudence to defund and marginalize the social pressure groups, we can eventually kill both birds.
The TEA Party is not a politician and does not need to pretend to be all things to all folks -it is rightly concentrating on the fiscal side of the equation.
“The Founders would surely disagree with you”
Oh really? Last time I checked, the Founders mentioned the God-given right to life in the Constitution. So you believe they would support a right to abortion? Or the undermining of the backbone of our society, the family, by gay “marriage”? I find it interesting that you think the Founding Fathers would support these abominations.
I have had pro-life events that our local “tea party” group refuses to advertise, because they “don’t want to touch social issues”. Someone posted a thread on here a few months back about a man in California who was asked to leave a tea party rally for distributing pro-life literature. I agree wholeheartedly with the Tea Party’s stance on fiscal responsibilty. But I’m sad that they won’t go near issues of social responsibility like abortion.
Well said. My thoughts exactly but I am just not as articulate.
I think the Tea Party is incomplete - for exactly the reasons you outlined.
Sorry, the Tea Party stands for Principles of which Abortion and gay marriage are key and they will NOT back down. Morals are truly the reason we are where we are.
A Moral Nation can survive but an unmoral one will kill itself as shown by history time and time again.
There are many in the Tea Party who think exactly like I do- the ones at the top, articulating their thinking are trying to be PC and not alienate anyone.
When you don’t stand for principles—the most important one of Natural Rights come from the Creator—the bases of our whole system of government—then you fall for everything and anything....it will be like all those kumbayi “inclusive” churches with lesbian pastors—a joke. Devolves into chaos and makes no sense and is NEVER the fundamental idea of Natural Law Theory—”Right Reason according to Nature”.
HMMMM—wonder if they are trying for a fundamental transformation of our Judicial system....redesign it according to Hitler’s standard of right and wrong—or Marx-—or Andrew Sullivan. Yes, allow them to throw out the geniuses that spanned over 2000 years of philosophy for their weak, perverted sense of “right and wrong”....good plan, Tea Partiers—sounds like you are REAL CONSERVATIVE when it comes to our Founding Documents.
It is where logic, reason, and science resides which is SUPPOSED to be the basis of American Jurisprudence. How in the H**l do “legal scholars” find an unnatural “right” in homosexual marriage......it defies logic, reason AND biology and particularly—God’s laws and certainly Natural Law.
“Sorry, the Tea Party stands for Principles of which Abortion and gay marriage are key and they will NOT back down. Morals are truly the reason we are where we are.”
Exactly what does that mean???? I have never heard anything from any Tea Party person condemning abortion of gay rights. Sure, the average voter who identifies with the Tea Party movement is usually pro-life, etc, but no one from any Tea Party website, organization, rally etc, has ever issued a statement condemning those issues. In fact, I’ve seen the opposite - Tea Party “officials” who make it a point NOT to discuss these issues & do as much as possible to distance themselves from them.
The TEA Party needs to show its power one more time prior to the 2012 election. By power I mean another Washington rally bigger than any before.
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