[charlene4]

UH OH! Looks like someone has been fibbing. (again)

[Shqipo]

No wonder no one remembers him. You can't be missed if you've never been there.

[silverleaf]

Did Barky leave NYC for overseas before or after the Brinks robbery of Oct 1981?

Was his departure from CONUS connected to any of the other robberies, crimes, bombings or violence conducted by the Black Liberations Army and Ayer’s dregs of Weather Underground?

The FBI knows

[Retired Greyhound]

He was attending a madrassa

[COUNTrecount]

He must have been at Columbia very briefly, where he excelled in learning the Cloward Piven class lectures material.

[Ann Archy]

Who remembers an EMPTY SUIT??

[9YearLurker]

Could he have been at their extension school his first year, which might be separately listed in this database?

Just looking for explanations.

[bgill]

So, he attended 2 semesters at Columbia but still got a degree? Most colleges refuse to award diplomas for such a short residence. That’s transferring to “buy” the better diploma. Anyone know the rule at Columbia for this back in 5/1983?

[bgill]

SO WHERE WAS OBAMA IN 1981????

Wasn't he supposed to have hidden the fact that he was really in Pakistan for a year and a half? This further proves that.

[iowamark]

Nothing is accomplished by this silly speculation except discrediting yourself and generating sympathy for Obama. There is no evidence that he was adopted by Soetoro or that he ever had an Indonesian passport.

[x]

Obama was most likely on an Indonesian passport when he visited Pakistan as the DHS and DOJ redact all records that point to him being adopted by Lo Lo Soetoro. Obama was in Pakistan when a murderous muslim ruler was in control of Pakistan and warring with the Soviet communists.

Our ally, Muhammed Zia-ul-Haq. How soon we forget.

Did Saudi nationals also buy obama's Columbia degree so that he could get into Harvard. Percy Sutton, Malcolm X's attorney said Saudi nationals paid for his Harvard degree. Did they also buy him his Columbia degree without him finishing his required courses?

Why not just cut out the middleman and send the money directly to Harvard?

But since five years passed from Obama's getting the degree from Columbia and his entering Harvard Law School, it doesn't look like he was in any hurry to fulfill the master plan.

[struggle]

>>SO WHERE WAS OBAMA IN 1981????

Man’s Country?

[GlockThe Vote]

Bump.

[Doogle]

Common Behaviours of a Narcissist ‘Me versus You’ mentality; Competitiveness; ‘Tit for tat’ retaliations; Striving for the ‘spotlight’ and attention; Excessive generosity to outside people; Uncomfortable when others are incurring attention or praise; If can’t be centre of attention will either discredit or leave the experience; May fake illnesses or problems to procure attention / sympathy; Abusive verbal behaviour when angered or insecure; Tendency toward violent and even criminal behaviour; Inappropriate and inapplicable language in front of women and children; Dark moods that affect others; False promises; Glorifies and falsifies achievements past and present; Expects to be recognised and praised; Finds others not complying with wants intolerable; Extreme sensitivity to criticism; Extreme defensiveness when confronted; Pathological lying; Disdain for rules, regulations, decency and morality; Childish outbursts and behaviour; Very little consideration for how behaviour affects others; Extreme lack of compassion or sensitivity towards love partners (and others’) problems; Grossly unsupportive to familiars in times of need; Brushes incidences under the carpet; Uses allies real or imagined to back up claims and arguments; Uses guilt and manipulation to influence love partners; Doesn’t trust love partners; Tendency towards unreasonable jealousy and possessiveness; Capable of sexually degrading name calling; Can steal, harm or hide property to sabotage love partners; Uses vengeance, threats and intimidation to control ; Uses excessive charm and manipulation to control; Little (if any) sense of conscience; Discredits love partners to gain attention / sympathy from others; Will ‘attack’ when confronted or questioned; Emotionally punishes love partners when feeling insecure; Emotionally punishes love partners when they are struggling with issues, losses, grief or challenges; Employs unpredictable and unaccountable behaviour; Capable of ‘disgusting’ behaviour to gain the upper hand and control a situation; Feels powerful and fulfilled when creating powerlessness in another; Gross failure to apologise or have sympathy after creating tears, distress or trauma to the love partner.

[urtax$@work]

comment from the website......" National Student Clearinghouse only has a contract with Columbia to provide graduation not attendance records. The only entity that can certify attendance records is Columbia itself. You can believe it or not, I don't care. ......"

FReepers who know anything about --National Student Clearinghouse-- and it's validity would be a welcome addition to this thread.

[CharlyFord]

The moderators comment at the end of the link is interesting:

I am forced to moderate the comments at this site due to the Obama defenders constant porn spam and threatening comments.

[bluecat6]

Collected milestones around 1981....

12/3/1980 WeatherUnderground fugitives Bill Ayers and Dohrn turn themselves in.

6/1/1981 Obama travels to Pakistan, India, Kenya and Indonesia for at least 3 weeks. Date is not exact

7/26/1981 Frank Marshall Davis dies - Obama mentor.

8/4/1981 BHO II turns 20.

8/17/1981 State Department issues rules for Pakistan travel - requires 30 day Visa. It is available at airport. Note: Americans could travel to Pakistan.

9/1/1981 BHO II goes to NY according to narrative story

9/1/1981 - 9/1/1982 It is uncertain where Obama during this time.

9/21/1981 Bombing of ERU in Schenectady. Suspected of being BLA or WUO.

10/20/1981 May 19 Communist Group (fomer WUO) and Black Liberation Army (BLA) members rob Brinks truck killing 2 police officers and guard.

8/1/1982 Obama first cousin Raila Amolla Odinga indicted for coup attempt in Kenya.

8/4/1982 BHO II turns 21.

9/1/1982 - 5/17/1983 Obama is confirmed at Columbia. He is listed in directory with NY address.

*****************************************************************************

So two possibilities fit here.

He could have been hanging around with the BLA/WUO gang in NY. Mr. Ayers old friends were certainly active and there were team members involved (black men) in the botched armored car attack and murders that were never caught.

or

He could have been in Kenya helping his first cousin try to take over the country. As first cousin to the new king/dictator/monarch/whatever he would be part of the royal family of Kenya.

or

Maybe both. NY in the fall of 1981, Kenya in the spring and summer of 1982. Kenya would have been good place to hang out if Obama had to stay clear of NY for a while. And being part of the royal family probably sounded good - until the coup failed.

All conjecture based on known dates and data points. But the fall of 1981 to fall of 1982 was interesting times for well known Obama relations - but where was he?

[ETL]

Obama and the case of the missing 'thesis'
By Jim Popkin, NBC News Senior Investigative Producer
July 24, 2008

excerpt:

The hunt for Obama’s senior “thesis” began with a throwaway line in a newspaper article last October. The New York Times story, on Obama’s early New York years, mentioned in passing that the presidential contender had majored in political science at Columbia and had spent his time “writing his thesis on Soviet nuclear disarmament.”

Journalists began hounding Columbia University for copies of the musty document. Conservative bloggers began wondering if the young Obama had written a no-nukes screed that he might come to regret. And David Bossie, the former congressional investigator and “right-wing hit man,” as one newspaper described him, took out classified newspaper ads in Columbia University’s newspaper and the Chicago Tribune in March searching for the term paper.

Bossie came up dry, but said the effort was well worth it:

“A thesis entitled Soviet Nuclear Disarmament, written at the height of The Cold War in 1983, might shed some light upon what Barack Obama thought about our most pressing foreign policy issue for 40-plus years (U.S.-Soviet Relations),” he wrote in an e-mail to NBC News.

http://deepbackground.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/07/24/1219454.aspx
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Here is the passage from the New York Times that the above article refers to:

"He barely mentions Columbia, training ground for the elite, where he transferred in his junior year, majoring in political science and international relations and writing his thesis on Soviet nuclear disarmament. He dismisses in one sentence his first community organizing job — work he went on to do in Chicago — though a former supervisor remembers him as 'a star performer.'"

[snip]

"he [Obama] declined repeated requests to talk about his New York years, release his Columbia transcript or identify even a single fellow student, co-worker, roommate or friend from those years.

'He doesn’t remember the names of a lot of people in his life,' said Ben LaBolt, a campaign spokesman."

Obama’s Account of New York Years Often Differs From What Others Say
By JANNY SCOTT, October 30, 2007:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/politics/30obama.html?ex=1351396800&en=631bf83f428647f9&ei=5089&partner=rssyahoo&emc=rss
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From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: Institute For Policy Studies (IPS)

IPS’s [Institute For Policy Studies] Washington, DC headquarters quickly became a resource center for national reporters and a place for KGB agents from the nearby Soviet embassy to convene and strategize. Cora Weiss headed one of the IPS's most successful forays -- into Riverside Church in Manhattan. She was invited there in 1978 by the Reverend William Sloane Coffin to run the church's Disarmament Program, which sought to consolidate Soviet nuclear superiority in Europe -- in the name of "peace." In 1982 Weiss helped organize the largest pro-disarmament demonstration ever held. Staged in New York City, the rally was attended by a coalition of communist organizations. During her decade-long tenure at Riverside, which became home to the National Council of Churches, Weiss regularly received Russian KGB agents, Sandinista friends, and Cuban intelligence agents. Weiss became infamous for her role in the psychological warfare conducted against U.S. prisoners of war held in the infamous "Hanoi Hilton" during the Vietnam War.

The Liberation News Service, which is a news source for hundreds of "alternative" publications nationwide (with antiwar, Marxist-oriented perspectives), was founded in 1967 with IPS assistance."

[lots more at link...]

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6991
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From the website of Riverside Church...

The Riverside Church
490 Riverside Drive
New York, New York 10027
212-870-6700

The Riverside Church is located on Manhattan’s Upper West Side near Columbia University.

http://www.theriversidechurchny.org/about/?directions
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"She was invited there in 1978 by the Reverend William Sloane Coffin to run the church's Disarmament Program, which sought to consolidate Soviet nuclear superiority in Europe -- in the name of 'peace.'

In 1982 Weiss helped organize the largest pro-disarmament demonstration ever held. Staged in New York City, the rally was attended by a coalition of communist organizations."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6991
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From the Columbia University website...

"Obama attended Columbia College from 1981 to 1983"
Source:
http://news.columbia.edu/home/1260
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Bill Ayers' education:
1987 - Ed.D, Columbia University, Curriculum & Instruction
1987 - M.Ed, Teachers College, Columbia University, Early Childhood Education
1984 [he completed degree in '84] - M.Ed, Bank Street College, Early Childhood Education
1968 - B.A., University of Michigan, American Studies
http://education.uic.edu/directory/faculty_info.cfm?netid=bayers
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Bank Street College
Where We Are and How to Get Here:

Bank Street College is located on the Upper West Side of Manhattan at 610 West 112th Street, between Broadway and Riverside Drive.

Bank Street College is located in a bustling family and university neighborhood four blocks from Columbia University
http://www.bankstreet.edu/aboutbsc/visiting.html
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Why Won’t Obama Talk About Columbia?
The years he won’t discuss may explain the Ayers tie he keeps lying about:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NjY4YzdhMDBkZGQ3ZmU2MTUzYjdkMzc5ZjUzYmViZWM=
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From the New York Times...

Obama's 1983 College Magazine Article
["Breaking the War Mentality"]

• Original Document (PDF)

"In 1983, at the height of the cold war, Barack Obama, then a senior at Columbia University, wrote in a campus newsmagazine about the vision of "a nuclear free world." The article in the Sundial profiled two campus groups: Arms Race Alternatives and Students Against Militarism."

http://documents.nytimes.com/obama-s-1983-college-magazine-article#p=1
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Barack Obama '83 Becomes First College Alumnus To Win Presidency

Wednesday, November 5, 2008

Barack Obama '83 became the first College alumnus to be elected President of the United States. On November 4, Obama defeated his Republican challenger, Sen. John McCain P'07, ending a marathon campaign that saw Obama rise from a first-term senator to the nation's first African-American president.

Obama, who was profiled in Columbia College Today in January 2005 when he burst upon the national political scene, transferred to Columbia from Occidental prior to his junior year.

In one of their few joint appearances, the candidates were interviewed in Roone Arledge Auditorium on September 11 at the Service Nation Presidential Candidates Forum.

This year's Presidential election had four candidates with strong College ties on the ballot. In addition to Obama being an alumnus, McCain's daughter, Meghan, is a 2007 College alumna; Wayne Allyn Root '83 was the Libertarian Party Vice-Presidential nominee running with Bob Barr; and Matt Gonzalez '87 ran as an independent candidate on the same ticketas Ralph Nader.

http://www.college.columbia.edu/news/barack-obama-83-becomes-first-college-alumnus-to-win-presidency

___________________________________________________________________

"Columbia College is the oldest undergraduate college at Columbia University, situated on the university's main campus of Morningside Heights in the Borough of Manhattan in the City of New York."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_College,_Columbia_University
______________________________________

About the College: Columbia College
http://www.college.columbia.edu/about

[ETL]

Obama Espoused Radical Views in College [advocated revolution]
Steve Malzberg - WOR News Talk Radio 710 ^ | February 12, 2010 | Ronald Kessler
Dr. John C. Drew, a grant writing consultant in Laguna Niguel, Calif., tells Newsmax he met Obama in 1980 when Obama was a sophomore at Occidental College in Los Angeles. Drew had just graduated from Occidental and was attending graduate school at Cornell University.

During Christmas break, Drew says he was at Grauman-Boss’ home in Palo Alto when Obama came over with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, his roommate from Pakistan.

“Barack [Obama] and Hasan showed up at the house in a BMW, and then we went to a restaurant together,” Drew says. “We had a nice meal, and then we came back to the house and smoked cigarettes and drank and argued politics.”

For the next several hours, they discussed Marxism.

“He [Obama] was arguing a straightforward Marxist-Leninist class-struggle point of view, which anticipated that there would be a revolution of the working class, led by revolutionaries, who would overthrow the capitalist system and institute a new socialist government that would redistribute the wealth,” says Drew, who says he himself was then a Marxist.

“The idea was basically that wealthy people were exploiting others,” Drew says. “That this was the secret of their wealth, that they weren’t paying others enough for their work, and they were using and taking advantage of other people. He was convinced that a revolution would take place, and it would be a good thing.”

Drew concluded that Obama thought of himself as “part of an intelligent, radical vanguard that was leading the way towards this revolution and towards this new society.” ..."

Referring to Obama’s quote from “Dreams of My Father” that he associated with Marxist professors, Drew says, “What he’s not saying is that he was in 100 percent total agreement with those Marxist professors. When you understand that, Obama’s later associations and policies make more sense, including why he was taken in by Rev. Wright’s ideology.”

[jh4freedom]

A 2009 article in the Columbia College Alumni magazine, Zero’s roommate says that they moved from Occidental College to Columbia for the Fall Semester of 1981:
http://www.college.columbia.edu/cct/jan_feb09/alumni_corner

[curiosity]

UH OH! Looks like someone has been fibbing.

That would be you. Columbia has said Obama started his stint at Columbia in 1981:

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/news/08/11/obama.html

The degree verification service document that blog you linked to posted is not part of Columbia University, and it only has a contract to verify the degree, not the dates of attendence.