On Savage's Claim that Norway Terrorist is Christian

scottfactor.com ^ | 07/28/2011 | Gina Miller

[scottfactor]

An atomic bomb of words rocked the conservative talk radio world on Tuesday evening when Dr. Michael Savage signed on to his national radio show and declared that the accused mass murderer from last Friday’s horrific shootings and bombing in Oslo, Anders Breivik, is a Christian. Many of you in this listening audience heard his words, since we carry Dr. Savage’s show on this station, and I suspect many of you, like me, thought, “Please don’t do this, Dr. Savage! You’re only helping the communist Left in their efforts to defeat us!”

Well, he did it, and I suspect he heard from more than a few people who vehemently disagreed with him.

Tuesday was the same day in which my column titled “Norway Shooter-Bomber Not Christian, Probably Not Lone” was broadcast here locally and published at DakotaVoice.com. In it, I presented what I now see was a simplistic, basic argument that Breivik’s actions demonstrated that he is not a Christian. I jumped out there with such statements as this,

“First of all, anyone who is truly a Christian, who understands Christianity and God’s Word, knows there is no way in the universe that the evil animal (or animals) who committed those atrocious murders is anything remotely resembling a Christian, much less a Christian fundamentalist—which simply means a Christian who believes in the fundamental truths of the Bible without all the man-made extras that some ‘Christian’ religions add to it. This lost, young man’s actions cannot in any way be considered the behavior of a Christian.”

That’s easy for me to say, isn’t it? What did Dr. Savage do on Tuesday? Well, it’s also easy to say that he irked a lot of people, but more than that, he caused many people to step back and do some deeper thinking. It was certainly simple for me to pronounce this Norwegian monster to be un-Christian, but can I defend that position? That is the question that Dr. Savage is forcing us to answer, if we are honestly seeking to discern truth.

Due to deadline time constraints, I have only been able to read a small portion of the more than 1800-paged “manifesto” which has been attributed to Breivik, but what I have read only reinforces the unease I expressed in Tuesday’s column that this Breivik fellow seems like a perfect candidate to have been a creation of the radical communist Left. Think: Reichstag Fire on steroids here. If that sounds crazy, just bear with me a little here.

The parts of the manifesto which are attributed to him sound quite mature and learned for someone so young (32 years old), although he may just be a brilliant-minded monster. Who knows? I was amazed at the “conservative” message in the writings, and in many ways, it reads like something that could have been written by someone here in America, in that the “conservatism” and “patriotism” of what I read is very similar to that found among conservative American patriots.

It begins with an in-depth dissection and repudiation of political correctness, which he calls “cultural Marxism,” and moves on to lay bare the history of the Islamists and the truth about the violent nature of Muhammad’s false religion, which, in truth, is merely a political-militant ideology couched in religious phrasing.

A large portion of the manifesto is made up of copied writings from various sources. The sources are credited, and I was a bit shocked (though I should not have been) to see conservative, even Christian, websites quoted, including WorldNetDaily, Free Republic, Jihad Watch, Atlas Shrugs and many others. Someone did some heavy-duty research in compiling this giant volume, and they made sure to use some of the most beloved websites of conservatives here in America. What better sources to use if your goal is to besmirch conservative patriots and ultimately attempt to create a false connection to horrific murders? Some of those sites are the most reviled of the Left.

Toward the end of it, he gets into how to design your own body armor and recipes and instructions for creating explosive material, which I scanned in amazement. He also includes some personal diary-type entries near the end, as well.

Breivik does cite Biblical Scripture. What I saw in his use—or misuse, rather—of Scripture was mainly a person who is using the Bible to justify being a “warrior” in the physical sense, not in the spiritual sense that Christ calls us to be. I also saw that the religion Breivik claims as superior is Catholicism, which explains some things to me. I have very deep problems with Catholicism, although that’s not the point of this column.

So, is Breivik a Christian? Let us take a look at some of the words of Jesus. He warned his disciples, and all others who would come after them, to not be deceived. As he said in Matthew 24,

“Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.”

Jesus is clearly saying that there will be a multitude of liars who claim to be of Christ, or Christian, but in reality, they are deceitful and will lead many others astray—away from his truth. That includes false versions of “Christianity” and various other fallacious belief systems by which billions of people are deceived.

Likewise, Jesus says in Matthew 7,

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.

Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.

Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’”

Those are seriously chilling words to the world. First of all, Jesus is saying that most people will not choose salvation through him. Instead, most people will choose to take that broad, easy road to eternal destruction. He further makes it quite clear that there will be many people who lived their lives falsely claiming to be Christian who will find themselves standing before him on that final Day wherein Jesus will reject them, because they first rejected him.

What is the mark of a Christian? Jesus says those who belong to him are the ones who do the will of God. Before Jesus came and fulfilled the whole requirement of the Law, mankind lived under a death sentence, because every man has sinned, and God’s set penalty for sin is death—period. Now that Jesus—who, as God in the flesh, lived a sinless life—has paid the death price for all our sins, we are under a New Covenant of grace, freely given by God through Jesus his Son, if we choose to accept it.

Where does Jesus tell us to plot the murder of our fellow man in order to terrorize people into seeing things our way? Where does Jesus tell us to take up arms to protect our nations and our western way of life? Where does Jesus tell us that we must fight our worldly enemies until we prevail? The answer to all of the above is: nowhere.

In fact, our true struggle is not against our fellow man, although our fellow man can most certainly be our earthly enemy, and often is. The real fight and our real enemies are in the spirit realm, as the Word of the Lord through Paul plainly states in Ephesians 6,

“Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

And pray in the Spirit on all occasions with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep on praying for all the Lord’s people.”

This is certainly a war alright, but you can plainly see the weapons are not physical weapons, but spiritual ones.

Breivik is deceived if he believes the Lord has commanded us to kill people to preserve our western heritage. There is a time for a just war to preserve a nation, and those wars are undertaken by governments of men, but what Breivik did can in no way be considered “just.”

Jesus does not endorse lawlessness. As Christians, we are told to obey the laws of man, as long as they do not go against the laws of God. Breivik broke both mans’ law and God’s law when he plotted, then committed, mass murder. He is not a soldier sent to battle by a legitimate authority; he is a man of lawless atrocity, and he is a liar if he claims to be doing it with the consent of Christ.

But, the Big Lie is everywhere, whereas the truth is a precious and rare thing to find in this jungle of deceit in which we live. One of the oldest and most commonly used tricks—or lies—is to misuse and misinterpret Scripture to “justify” works of evil. We have seen this done throughout history.

Just because a person uses words from the Bible, does not mean he knows, or belongs to, Jesus—does not mean he is a Christian. From the very beginning in the Garden, Satan has always twisted God’s Word, and he could not be further from being a Christian! When Satan, through those people he has inspired, uses the Bible, it is only for purposes of deceit, and he has an astonishingly successful track record with doing so.

Breivik’s misuse of the Bible and his citing of conservative and Christian websites do not prove that he is a Christian, and his actions—his fruit—demonstrate that he is not even in the universe of Christianity. Besides being most certainly infested with demons, Breivik is very deceived at the least, or worse, is an operative for a much deeper and darker battle than we are being told—a battle against true patriots and true Christians everywhere who oppose the evil, globalist rulers and their plans. Either way, Breivik will now be a weapon used against us.

No, Anders Breivik is not a Christian, but even to such a monster as he, as to every person on earth, the free offer of salvation and forgiveness of sins is still extended by the grace and mercy of God our Father in Heaven through Christ Jesus his Son, if Breivik repents of his sins and accepts Jesus as his Lord and Savior before he dies.

[Colorado Cowgirl]

No, Anders Breivik is not a Christian, anymore than a person born in a garage is a spare tire. Amen.

[Ghost of Philip Marlowe]

The more I listen to Savage (which I cannot do for any length of time anymore) the more I am convinced that he is a hateful, bitter, ungrateful little man and that most of his hostilities are directed not toward ideological opponents, but to those on his side who are more successful than he is.

I can’t tolerate his adolescent name calling of other conservative talk-show hosts. I can’t tolerate his superficial attacks of what they do or do not do. I can’t tolerate his hidden covetousness that he can’t claim a larger market share.

And I can no longer tolerate his frequent references to himself as some sort of a genius or prophet, how he is always thirty years ahead of his time, that no one “NO ONE!!” else is saying the things he says.

For the most part, all he says is what those other talk-show hosts (whom he loves to hate) have already said.

He is thus forced to scramble for the absurd in order to find the “unique” commentary of “the genius, the prophet.”

It’s a shame that he can’t be grateful for the success he has found rather than coveting that which he never can, because he is blinded by jealousy.

[Berlin_Freeper]

I stopped listening to Savage a couple of months ago when they insisted on five dollars a month to listen to his podcasts.

I was like: pssssss!

[cripplecreek]

In part, he’s a result of a state controlled church where many officials are political appointees.

[OilCanDan23]

He planned this insane act of evil for years. He had decades to consider this. The guy is a terrorist, coward piece of garbage, and is no Christian. He is an atheist, like most evil doers.

[tm61]

so let me get this right.

if, if, this guy is a christian, then, according to the left, its a vindication of all they believe wrong with Christianity.

but a thousand suicide bombing muslims do not represent Islam, again, according to the left.

[cripplecreek]

Its a nice rant but it also ignores a beautiful warning about what happens when government takes control of churches.

After all, what do you think the liberal goal is in calling him a right wing Christian?

[StonyBurk]

sounds like a brother from anothe rmother to Barry Soetoro aka Barak Hussein Obama II.

[ETL]

Even ((IF)) he were, he would be just 1 in about 10 of these nut jobs who wasn't an extreme leftist (like Obama).

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Joe Stack (IRS plane crasher) sums up his “manifesto” with this, a popular Karl Marx quote and a stab at Capitalism...

“The communist creed:
From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.

The capitalist creed:
From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.”

-Joe Stack (1956-2010)
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Full text here: (CNN PDF file)

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"The woman accused of killing three colleagues at the University of Alabama in Huntsville [Amy Bishop] was a suspect in a 1993 attempted mail bombing, according to a report by The Boston Globe.

The report broke the day after it was learned that Bishop fatally shot her brother in Braintree in 1986. ..."

http://www.necn.com/02/14/10/Amy-Bishop-at-time-of-1993-mail-bomb-inv/landing.html?blockID=180453&feedID=4215
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"A family source said Bishop, a mother of four children - the youngest a third-grade boy - was a far-left political extremist who was "obsessed" with President Obama to the point of being off-putting."--Boston Herald, February 15, 2010

'Oddball' portrait of Amy Bishop emerges:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view/20100215oddball_protrait_emerges_suspects_family_pals_offer_clues/srvc=home&position=0

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From SFGate.com:

Unabomber essay urges attacks on 'techno-industrial system'
July 27, 2002 | By Dan Eggen, Dominic Gates, Washington Post

In an article published this spring by Green Anarchy, a radical environmental newsletter, [unabomber Ted] Kaczynski calls on revolutionaries to "eliminate the entire techno-industrial system" by "hitting where it hurts" and disparages the activities of most radicals as "pointless." ..."

“The fall 2001 issue of Green Anarchy published a letter from Kaczynski complaining that Subcomandante Marcos, leader of the Zapatista rebels in Chiapas, Mexico, was insufficiently pure as a revolutionary because he advocates bringing water and electricity to peasants....”

http://articles.sfgate.com/2002-07-27/news/17554242_1_contention-that-modern-society-radical-environmental-newsletter-kaczynski-kaczynski-s-views/2
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From anarchist-org.forum:

“The Zapatista Army of National Liberation (El Ejército Zapatista de Liberación Nacional) is an anarcho communist army that is based in Mexico, mainly the poorest state in Mexico, Chiapas. In 1994, January 1st, they started their revolution and it has been increasingly successful throughout the years. Today, they are attempting non-violent struggles because the people told them too — they are truly an army of the people. However, both the people and their army are realizing how unsuccessful that tactic is.

Their ideology, Zapatismo, is a mixture of indigenous teachings, autonomism, anarchism and communism. Although other revolutions are going on in the world (like the Southern African anarcho communist movement), the Zapatista revolution was deemed the first modern revolution of our time and it’s bringing hope to people not only in Mexico, but around the world.”

http://anarchist-org.forum-gratuiti.net/t206-zapatista-anarcho-communist-revolution

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From the Wall Street Journal
NOVEMBER 24, 2007

Oswald was a dedicated communist who had defected to the Soviet Union in 1959 out of disgust with American capitalism. After becoming disillusioned with Soviet life, he returned to the U.S. in 1962. In early 1963, he bought a scoped rifle through the mail and soon used it to fire a shot (which missed) at retired general Edwin Walker, the head of the John Birch Society in Dallas. In the summer of 1963, Oswald was active in street demonstrations in support of Castro. In September 1963, he visited the Soviet and Cuban embassies in Mexico City seeking a travel visa that would allow him to travel to Cuba.

Oswald was among the radicals of the time who saw Third World revolutionaries like Castro as the wave of the communist future. He was well aware of Kennedy's efforts to overthrow Castro's regime. As a Senate investigative committee suggested in 1975, Oswald shot Kennedy to interrupt his administration's plans to assassinate Castro or to overthrow his regime in Cuba.

Ignoring Oswald's communist links, journalists and political leaders quickly claimed the president was a martyr to civil rights. Earl Warren said that Kennedy had "suffered martyrdom as a result of the hatred and bitterness that has been injected into the life of our nation by bigots." Martin Luther King said the assassination had to be viewed against the backdrop of violence against civil rights marchers in the South. James Reston wrote in the New York Times that "something in the nation itself, some strain of madness and violence, had destroyed the highest symbol of law and order."

The consensus opinion was that Kennedy was a victim of hate and bigotry, a casualty of his support for civil rights. The Cold War and Kennedy's ongoing feud with Castro were rarely mentioned as factors behind the assassination. The reasons? Mrs. Kennedy wanted her husband remembered as a modern-day Abraham Lincoln. Lyndon Johnson feared complicating relations with the Soviet Union. Liberals feared a replay of the McCarthy period, when the Wisconsin senator inflamed public opinion about fears of domestic communism.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119586848318702756.html

[SuzyQue]

Is there any evidence that this guy belonged to a church? Ever even entered a church in his adulthood? Had an established faith outside of church? Pretty hard to make the case that he was a Christian if not.

Islamic terrorists are much easier; islam sanctions the killing of non-muslims, and most of the known terrorist went to a mosque, and professed a faith in traditional islam.

[AlexW]

“The more I listen to Savage (which I cannot do for any length of time anymore”
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I have to agree.
I catch Savage first thing in the morning when I wake up,
6AM here.
I have tried to overlook his condescension of the other talkers, but as I would point out, I PAY to get Rush 24/7.
I would never pay to get Savage.

The final straw this past week was his claim that Obozo is the smartest president of this century.
While I still respect Savage’s education and past works, for me he has blown it as a political commentator.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

Yeah, Savage may have a big mouth and deliver a good rant, but unlike other radio hosts (whom he disparages) he’s wrong a lot.

[ETL]

Yet another example of left-wing lunatic violence...

The Last Honest Liberal-Caitie Parker (Friend of AZ Shooter)
Multiple including twitter interview by Freeper ^ | 1-9-11 | Icwhatudo

Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2011 5:32:27 AM by icwhatudo
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2653697/posts
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Here are Caitie Parker's (a former friend of the shooter) original responses to 3 different Twitter posters (the 'at' symbol @ = To: _______ )

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Here's a screen grab from the Huffington Post. Note that two of the lunatic's favorite reads is THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO and MEIN KAMPF [The National Socialist German Workers' Party (German: Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, abbreviated NSDAP), commonly known in English as the Nazi Party].

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/08/jared-lee-loughner-gabrielle-giffords-shooter_n_806243.html
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“Loughner’s former [BEST] friend [Zach Osler] said that he was mostly influenced by the Zeitgeist Movement. Below is the ABC video interview with Jared Loughner’s friend, Zach Osler.” [see first link below]

(ABC Good Morning America video at link)

Zach Osler: [pp] “Zeitgeist Movement had a PROFOUND effect on shooter and how he saw the world”
http://www.norcalblogs.com/gate/2011/01/shooter-never-listened-to-talk-radio-called-gifford-stupid-after-meeting-her.php
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The ‘Zeitgeist Movement’ is basically a global Marxism one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zeitgeist_Movement

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Concepts advocated by the Zeitgeist Movement

* Management of the Earth's Natural Resources: Once surveyed, the Earth's natural resources will no longer be privately owned. They will be managed according to general sustainability principles of preservation, recycling and optimization.

* No Money, Barter, Trade or Property: The monetary value of commodities does not represent the actual physical supply of natural resources, or their utilitarian value, which is integral to the success of the type of sustainable global society that the Zeitgeist Movement advocates. Income is a requirement for individuals to sustain life in a monetary system, so this in turn creates the need for commodities to be continuously bought and sold and for goods to be continuously produced, in order to make sure that the operation of social functions is maintained. This, combined with competition over market share, creates an abundance of goods that usually exceeds the demand for them, which in turn depletes natural resources and may create excessive waste.

Furthermore, the profit motive inherent in a monetary system, creates an incentive to increase profits regardless of the impact on human beings or the environment. When labor is displaced or outsourced, it either removes a laborer's source of sustenance, or takes advantage of inexpensive laborers. Certain manufacturers and corporations have been noted to contaminate the environment by dumping their by-products and waste materials, instead of disposing of them properly, in order to save money. Other manufacturers have been known to take advantage of a process called planned obsolescence in order to increase sales of their products over time. With universal access to goods and services provided by a sustainable means of production based on resource availability, optimization and preservation, these problems of a monetary economy can be overcome.

* Automation: Machine automation is more productive than human labor and replaces the need for people to perform repetitive and tedious tasks.

* Technological Unification of the Earth: Globally networked technological infrastructure is required to monitor planetary resources in real time, and theoretically make the most efficient use of them in solving planetary problems.

* Scientific Methodology: Decision making regarding the methods of production, what goods and services are to be provided, city planning and resource optimization, preservation and recycling will be arrived at by analysing relevant trends and data, via use of the scientific method.

* Sustainable City Systems: Utilizing a systemic approach for a sustainable global society, city systems may act as microcosm to the global network of technological infrastructure. The city system can incorporate all manufacturing, goods and services that people will use on a daily basis within the city limits. The city system may also utilize a cybernetic central computer to monitor energy and resource supply, usage and other relevant data in real time, relaying this information to other city systems that make up the macrocosm of the technologically unified globe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zeitgeist_Movement

[wolfman23601]

I still think Savage is hillarious, though I don’t often agree with him. If I happen to be in the car from 7 to 10, I turn his show on for the entertainment value, but I don’t go out of my way to listen.

[cripplecreek]

From what I can tell “registration” with a religious affiliation (or atheism) happens at birth in Norway.

My main concern is that Norway offers a perfect example of what liberals would love to do here. The state funded and state controlled church of Norway is full of political appointees which can seriously damage a church over time.

Imagine Van Jones being appointed to be a Bishop.

[ETL]

"Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that's where it's really at"
--Bill Ayers (1970), quoted in New York Times, September 11, 2001:

Article: "No Regrets for a Love Of Explosives; In a Memoir of Sorts, a War Protester Talks of Life With the Weathermen"
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F02E1DE1438F932A2575AC0A9679C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1
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"Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!"
-Weather Underground leader and wife of Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, referring to the Manson murders

Article: Allies in War -by David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=63512670-BF7C-42A0-B41D-5D0FB9E09C09
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"It was at the Chicago home of [Bill] Ayers and [Bernardine] Dohrn that Obama, then an up-and-coming 'community organizer,' had his political coming out party in 1995. Not content with this rite of passage in Lefty World — where unrepentant terrorists are regarded as progressive luminaries, still working 'only to educate' — both Obamas tended to the relationship with the Ayers."
Article: The Company He Keeps:
Meet Obama’s circle: The same old America-hating Left
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YThjYTU1ZDBjNmQ2YzcwNzU1MmYwN2JiMWY0ZGI0NDA=&w=MA==

[dynachrome]

Ping to a column/discussion of Doc S. Calling the Oslo murderer a Christian.

(should ship the guy to Texas where they know how to treat thugs)

[ETL]

But Obama claims he's a [legit/traditional] Christian...

"Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal".--James (Jim) Cone,
African American Religious Thought: An Anthology (Paperback)
by Cornel West (Editor), Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (Editor)
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SEAN HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

[ETL]

what liberals would love to do here. The state funded and state controlled church of Norway is full of political appointees which can seriously damage a church over time. Imagine Van Jones being appointed to be a Bishop.

Van Jones is a revolutionary communist like "Reverend" Jeremiah Wright, Bill Ayers and you-know-who.