Or a very common occurrence in a combat zone, turned into fertilizer for garden variety, conspiracy theorist kookery.
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imagine if GW had put out a movie, just before the election, of 9-11, the towers, etc
oh yea... that's classy, 0failure
I actually read her articles... Plenty there to raise a plethora of questions!
America better wake up fast!
The name of the movie is "Capricorn II".
Strange, I heard about this on the wake-up radio news about 0530 central time. By 0700 the Seal Team was rumored. I immediately thought conspiracy. An inside job.
Sharp young lady. I’m lower than whale spit right now and therefore think she is wasting her time and breath. I have gotten to the point that I don’t even scream at the TV. I have also hit that point of grim resolve to join any decisive action that will result in total victory or total failure. One is as good as the other to me because the suffering death by 10,000 cuts we are going through needs to end.
I don’t remember the Carter years being this bleak. I do remember thinking the time would pass. This time, not so much.
The Book says that without hope or a vision the people perish. It doesn’t say how we will perish or how long it will take.
Did you alter the title of the article to reflect that opinion?
I’ve read all of the comments so far by some very experienced and informed list of people. I do not disagree with them. However, something still “smells” about this news and my gut feeling is that there is more info to come. As I understand SEAL operations, they generally operate in small groups. Are 22 SEALS on one helo a “small group”? It is unusual to receive the news of the shootdown so early after the incident or at all. I’m not convinced all the info is out yet and may not be for quite some time, if ever, if something is amiss. BTW, I am a 6 year vet with combat experience and familiar with the fog of war.
I’ve read all of the comments so far by some very experienced and informed list of people. I do not disagree with them. However, something still “smells” about this news and my gut feeling is that there is more info to come. As I understand SEAL operations, they generally operate in small groups. Are 22 SEALS on one helo a “small group”? It is unusual to receive the news of the shootdown so early after the incident or at all. I’m not convinced all the info is out yet and may not be for quite some time, if ever, if something is amiss. BTW, I am a 6 year vet with combat experience and familiar with the fog of war.
bump
More about the crash.
I think we have a mole in the White House. Someone in the upper echelon who works for the people we are at war agaisnt.
Someone with Muslim ties who hates America
Read the whole article and DO like portions of the writing. But like some FReepers we're a slightly paranoid/realistic crowd when being prompted to sites unknown as sometimes ,well, it's a better idea for the author of the thread to post the whole article but in this case it's not possible, too large so here goes and this is just "gleaned" from many postings( Having been in the army[ never mind who where] I won't even go farther than this writer goes and from post #16 I believe, spec ops can TAKE any gassed to go, car, truck coper necesssary for orders that re empt any ongoing lower level op. But that's as far as this writer goes). Onward to a portion of the article:
"I’ll say what everyone else is thinking but is too scared to say. The Obama regime is almost certainly directly complicit in these deaths. The time, location and most especially, the PASSENGERS in the Chinook were passed to the Taliban. Additionally, you can’t take out a Chinook with small arms fire or even standard RPGs such as the Taliban use. The Taliban needed serious weaponry to take this helo down, and that serious weaponry needed to be in exactly the right spot at exactly the right time, ready to fire."
"Why would the Obama regime kill Americans? I think the question is, why WOULDN’T the Obama regime kill Americans? The Obama regime is composed of Marxist-Leninist psychopaths. A glancing, superficial survey of 20th century history shows one glaring fact above all others: MARXISTS MURDER PEOPLE WITHOUT COMPUNCTION. Marxists also hate Americans, by definition. Three tacks:"
"1. The men on board the Chinook may have been some of the same men who participated or had direct knowledge of the staged Bin Laden raid and were killed to permanently silence them."
2. "These DEVGRU men were killed to send a signal to the surviving DEVGRU men who carried out the Bin Laden raid to keep their mouths shut."
( I wonder about this, there still are no names nor photos of the crash or how the Rangers fared in their emergency firefight. But these are spec ops teams, there would be no names, maybe never depending. There can be many answers to this but still a simple order to STFU will suffice to keep thise either tragedy, or conspiracy going. i DO wonder why Obama was pulled from the golf course on the Obama day of the op, and why during the lalleged back and forth of the "debt crisis" Obama is happy he gets a 16 month reprieve and happiers than a hanging turd some companies have given America a less than AAA rating...to me his nefarious plans are working well; regarding this, I am not sure of this being a conspiracy but surely his birth cert, and his past is quite foggy.)Onward
3. "Certainly, the release of the unit identity of the dead within hours – before even family notification could have been made (which requires an IN PERSON visit to the family, remember) was an obvious bow to Al Qaeda, the Taliban and the entire muslim world. This event was INSTANTLY propagandized by the Obama media as “revenge” exacted for Bin Laden’s death. And remember, Bin Laden has been dead for many years. The raid of May 2 was pure stagecraft to distract the world from the release of the forged Obama birth certificate."
"I am not a conspiracy theorist."( Ditto for me)
"I can’t stand Alex Jones or any 9/11 truther. I have turned down dozens of interviews with such types. In fact, I am a huge believer in the Lex Parsimoniae, which is sometimes called “Occam’s Razor”, which states that the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one. I teach this as part of my job, namely that the cattle markets are neither manipulated nor impossible to operate within at a profit. The reality is that the cattle industry participants do not make money because they are functionally incompetent. It is very, very simple. True conspiracies are very rare."
"This entire Obama situation is a conspiracy, and I say that without the slightest hesitation. Obama is not a citizen of the United States, he is a puppet front for a cabal of Marxist-Leninsts including Soros, Ayers, Dohrn, Strong, Jarrett and many, many others. These people are enemies of the United States. These people are deeply psychologically damaged, and are capable of ordering people murdered in order to protect themselves and increase their own power. The three dead homosexual black men from Trinity United Church of Christ, Young, Bland and Spencer, all of whom were sexually linked to Barack Obama, were probably the first people specifically murdered by the Obama regime.
( Uh oh this writer had no idea about this BUT heard some scuttlebutt. Is this like the list of deaths similar to Clintons list of dead to stay in power that was allegedly debunked or was it? Haven't heard much about that lately.)
The hundreds of Mexicans and the two American agents Terry and Zapata were murdered by Operation Fast and Furious in order to advance and increase the power of the Obama regime. These SEALS and the others on board that Chinook today were almost certainly betrayed and murdered by the Obama regime.
Why did the Obama regime immediately reveal the unit identity of the SPECOPS forces involved in the first place, despite the fact that DEVGRU was highly classified? Why was the personnel composition of the Chinook released IMMEDIATELY today after the helo went down – before even family notifications could be made? WHY? Why would you hand your enemy, Al Qaeda and the Taliban, a massive propaganda coup? WHY?
I’ll tell you why. Because the Obama regime IS THE ENEMY. They are Marxist tyrants who hold the lives of Americans not just cheap, but in scathing contempt. They will say anything, they will do anything, and they will murder ANYONE in order to protect themselves and consolidate and increase their power. Please, I beg you, for the love of God and all that is good in this world, read the history of the Soviet Union. Read about Lenin and Stalin and how they murdered people without any hesitation. Read about how Hitler was constantly ordering the murder of his own officers. Read about Communist China. Read about Mao and the millions upon tens of millions of murders he ordered. Read about the killing fields of the Communist Khmer Rouge in Cambodia led by Pol Pot. PLEASE. Marxists MURDER PEOPLE. That is what they do. The Obama regime is MARXIST to the bone. If the Obama regime is not stopped, the 30 Americans murdered today in Afghanistan will be just the beginning. I promise you that.
Here, again, is the clip of Larry Grathwohl, who infiltrated the Weather Underground Marxist terrorist organization in the 1970s. The Weather Underground was founded by Obama’s political godfather, communist mentor (along with Frank Marshall Davis), murderer, and ghostwriter of “Dreams From My Father”, Bill Ayers and his wife Bernardine Dohrn. In this interview, taped in 1980 while Obama was still just an unknown undergrad foreign scholarship student at Occidental College, Grathwohl describes the leadership of the Weather Underground (which is Ayers and Dohrn) discussing what will be done with the “unreformable, diehard capitalists” once they have overthrown the government of the United States. The answer is extermination in camps in the Southwest. The estimated total that would need to be killed? 25 million, which was 10% of the population at the time. Ayers & Dohrn already have overthrown the government of the United States via their puppet protégé, Barack Obama. They have guaranteed that the economy will collapse. The only thing left for them to do is suspend the Constitution and open the camps. I’ll see you there.
Military conspiracy theories are the hardest to debunnk or construe as the truth as anyone who has served knows well that once you get off the bus, say your oath and enter the barracks, all the world of the military is becomes all encompassing, learning, training and complete immersion to the military way of life. No idea if this is all true or part and partial or just baloney but the writer could probably do a good fiction book. If she gets enough facts, like can somehow meet the plane with 22 bodies plus pilots plus know who helped the Rangers in their time of need( the battle was not over just because a copter was shot down) then maybe there will be some transparency but for now she offers some interesting question. In the world of special operations very little to nothing is rendered safe for mere mortals such as us, the civilians, and the reasons are many, mainly for their and our own safety. This is too convoluted for me and will probably go no where as the money to the coffers of the Obama election campaign are quickly being filled. Until there is undeniable proof of this as more than a conspiracy but fact and until the "birth certificate" is more than a conspiracy and jumps to undeniable fact the left will mock this no matter the questions, logical they may be have no shred of evidence to the contrary ,yet.