Posted on 08/10/2011 2:34:33 AM PDT by RobinMasters
Person in Hawaii claims he obtained PAN AM flight logs that show Obama flew with parents from Kenya to Hawaii at 5 months old.
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We don't yet know the validity of the person's claim but we have contacted the person for more details which are below.
Initial comment from "miller4000" at Hawaii's KHON2 TV :
Initial comment from "miller4000" at Hawaii's KHON2 TV: "I have a copy of the birth certificate. I will post this soon and then corroborating evidence barrack actually flew into Hawaii at 5 months of age with his parents. You see I figured out how to prove this because I obtained logs of flights from what was. PAN AM and there were only two airlines flying into Hawaii at that time. It was fairly easily once I found the archived records. This cover up involves major players in Hawaii and in the federal government. Believe or don't believe me I don't care. Obama was born in Kenya to father who was a communist agent trained in Moscow!"
A couple of excerpts from our initial email exchange:
Could you please elaborate more on what you have discovered and when it will be released?
"........ Pan Am kept flight logs and in the 5 To 10 months that pretty much were a window for his birth only a certain number of flights from Asia were recorded and passenger manifests will show people who arrived foreign passports and a black man and white woman. ........"
Were you able to obtain the actual flight logs?
"Yes"
(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...
Why would SAD apply to the University of Chicago from Hawaii and/or Mercer Island? Wasn’t Frank Marshall Davis native to Chicago? Wasn’t Saul Alinsky then in his prime at UC? Was Malcolm Little by then Malcolm X? Was he there that summer?
Yep, probably so.
Would be easy if we had Stanley Ann Dunham’s passport records wouldn’t it? Naw.. too hard.
Upon release of a FOIA request on Obama’s mother’s passport records to determine her whereabouts Aug, 1961 and thus where Barry was born, the U.S. State Dept cover letter states the pre-1965 material “could not be located” and many passports/non vital records “were destroyed in 1980’s”.
http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/FOIA-Release-FINAL-7-29-10-pp-1-41.pdf
Funny, the U.S. State Dept website states differently:
http://www.travel.state.gov/passport/npic/npic_872.html
Passport Records for Issuances 1925 – Present
Requesting Your Own Record
Passport Services maintains United States passport records for passports issued from 1925 to the present. These records normally consist of applications for United States passports and supporting evidence of United States citizenship, and are protected by the Privacy Act of 1974, (5 USC 552(a)). Passport records do not include evidence of travel such as entrance/exit stamps, visas, residence permits, etc., since this information is entered into the passport book after it is issued.
US State Dept Records retention Dec 2008
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/96122.pdf
on page 5:
5. Retention
a. How long is information retained?
The established retention period for electronic records in PRISM is presently 100 years in accordance with published record schedules of the Department of State and as approved by the National Archives and Records Administration.
Move along, nothing to see here /sarcasm
Toss this out as bogus. True, PanAm serviced Honolulu but flights to Kenya were BOAC.
Sorry, I must have misunderstood your post. I thought you were commenting on the article that suggested someone had proof of a flight to Hawaii when baby Obama was 5 months old.
“Why would SAD apply to the University of Chicago from Hawaii and/or Mercer Island?”
I’m not sure - it is definitely an odd choice for SAD to choose Chicago unless she had family ties there.
“Wasn’t Frank Marshall Davis native to Chicago? “
I believe FMD was born south of Wichita in Arkansas, City, Ks (close to where Madeline Payne was born), and moved to Chicago in 1935, before moving to Hawaii in 1948.
“Wasn’t Saul Alinsky then in his prime at UC?”
I’m not sure why that would matter, except that if he lived in Chicago the same time as FMD, then they would have certainly known each other.
“Was Malcolm Little by then Malcolm X? Was he there that summer?”
It looks like Malcolm X lived in either New York or Michigan during his life and stayed faithful to Betty Sanders. Is there evidence that Malcom X was in Chicago in 1959? If not, then Malcolm X could just about be eliminated as Barry’s father. Neil Abercrombie also stated that Ann was no “beach bunny”, so the odds that she would have hooked up with a married Malcolm X are extremely high.
SAD graduated from Mercer Island High School in 1960. And she spent the summer of 1960 in Chicago, working as an Au Pair. I don’t know why you would say that she was inChicago in 1959, she was still in high school then.
I’m thinking that you are trying to intentionally obfuscate the facts. The number one fact is that IF Obama was born in the spring of 1961, it means that Obama was concieved while SAD was in Chicago. And in that case, it opens up a whole range of options on who Obama’s father is.
“I don’t know why you would say that she was in Chicago in 1959”
Ann Dunham was born November 1942 and ‘Dreams’ states:
“I was only SIXTEEN then,” she told us as we entered the elevator. “I’d just been accepted to the University of Chicago - Gramps hadn’t told me yet that he wouldn’t let me go-and I was there for the SUMMER, working as an AU PAIR.” (’Dreams from MY Father’ CH 6)
From this, how do you get that Ann was in Chicago in the summer of 1960 and not 1959?
“I’m thinking that you are trying to intentionally obfuscate the facts.”
You are somewhat correct, by quoting from the fiction book ‘Dreams from My Father” I have no choice but to obfuscate the facts.
In my case it is UNintentional, but with ‘Dreams’ it is an INTENTIONAL obfuscation of the facts.
Looking at the ‘Dreams’ excerpt again, the summer of 1960 for Ann’s visit to Chicago could be inferred, if it assumed that either 1) the age of SIXTEEN for Ann Dunham is just another of the many ‘Dreams’ bloopers, or 2) Ann Dunham was accepted to UC before the start of her senior year.
But an even closer look at the ‘Dreams” excerpt, reveals it is actually a nonsensical statement:
“I was only sixteen then,” she told us as we entered the elevator. “I’d just been accepted to the University of Chicago- Gramps hadn’t told me yet that he wouldn’t let me go-and I was there for the summer, working as an au pair.
I still think Obama does “not’ look like his “Legal Father” /Obama Sr
He looks like Malcom-X …….(Malcolm-X daughter Qubilah Shabazz & Obama
look a lot alike..Also Malia looks like Shabazz)……either Stanley Ann was
impregnated by Malcom-X or she adopted
Malcom-X child………..Obama Sr may have just been a patsy…. Remember
the Dunhams were active members of “CPUSA”….. Stanley Armour Dunham was photographed with Obama Sr arriving in Hawaii before Stanley Ann met him at College.
In 1960 at the Theresa Hotel completely unknown Kenyan student gain elbow-rubbing proximity to the then-notorious Malcolm X.
Also at the Theresa Hotel was the poet and playwright Langston Hughes, a close friend of Frank Marshall Davis, as well as Charles Rangel who was working his way through law school as a desk clerk.
It must also be mentioned that during the General Assembly meeting in September 1960, Nikita Khruschev traveled from midtown Manhattan up to Harlem to the Theresa Hotel to meet with Fidel Castro.
What were Malcolm X, Fidel Castro, and Nikita Khrushchev talking to each other about? And where does Barack Obama (Sr.) fit in?
Was he being recruited and groomed to be the “father” – or father in name only – of Barack Obama II, in furtherance of a grand conspiracy to overthrow the U.S. government?
1959, Khrushchev expanded on his previous statement: “We cannot expect the Americans to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving Americans small doses of socialism until they suddenly awake to find they have Communism.
”Was this odd but powerful assemblage at the Theresa Hotel planning to bury the United States by orchestrating yet an even more spectacular coup d’état – this time of America itself?
Not by a bloody revolution of the Castro variety, but rather by stealth – an operation carried out by leftist moles and sympathizers with the goal of overthrowing and taking the reins of the United States government?
Is there any connection between Malcolm X and Obama Sr.? In 1959 Malcolm X traveled to the Middle East and Africa , including Kenya, and is reported to have met with Jomo Kenyatta, future Prime Minister and later President of Kenya, as well as with a prominent Kenyan politician named Tom Mboya (who Obama Sr. called his “godfather”). Mboya was a close friend of Barack Obama Sr.’s family, so it’s no mystery that Barack Obama Sr. was selected to give his name to Malcolm X’s son.
We have no idea if Stanley Ann gave birth to Barack Obama or was just the woman chosen to raise him by the grand conspirators who plotted his rise to power from as far back as the 1950s, before his birth!
This may seem far fetched but; everything about Obama is far fetched because we know nothing about him.
Also: Google The First time I heard of Barrack by Tom Fife or
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2344042/posts?page=151
When will Lucas Smith be putting these babies on E-Bay?
This brings in the story of a Fresno man being told at a business dinner in Moscow in the 1990s that there would be an African USA POTUSA. This was posted on FR and is/was a very intriguing recollection. I have it in my files.
First, I found what the same poster (miller4000) wrote 1.5 years ago to the same news station. Someone could guess from this he might be one of those "Kill the Rich" far-left Marxists who would be in love with Obama (I highlighted several mis-spellings, but I'm not sure if that matters)...
miller4000 - 3/12/2010 5:22 PMBut on the flip side, he's also published several anti-Obama gems. Here is one...
jimie, I want to say this is discusting..I am a haole and this makes me want to vomit.. I happen to come from a place that was once beautiful and has been transformed by money and the government into a cespool! I am truely sad for the people of hawaii that they have a government that relys on rich outsiders( haoles from the mainland and also rich asians..All outsiders and pigs) to drive up the prices of homes in hawaii! it has to stop through the courts or through other necessary means!
Sunday, October 10, 2010 ...If your like me and your heart goes into your throat and the pride swells inside of you when on old glory passes and our nation anthem plays..Then you know what is right and true. This fake..this imposter..your less than longshanks..you dont even deserve one ounce of my respect! soon we will be rid of you! YOU Obama you do not rule me. you are not worth the shit on the bottom of my shoes! Posted by miller4000 at 12:45 AMSo could this guy really have flown to Miami to dig through 1,500 cubic feet of PAN AM archives to find 1961 flight logs from Kenya? Or did he just get lucky and find it some other way? (One can only hope).
One thing I have often noticed, is that whenever we start getting some press coverage, or gaining some apparent traction in courts, the OBOTS salt the internet with several wild claims to distract and discredit us. Those are usually anonymous, or sometimes from Polland, or Polarik, (I can't recall his name exactly)
I think the biggest stories at THIS time are Obama's stolen Connecticut SSN, and as a result, Taitz now has standing to verify the identity of the supposed thief.
So now, Hawaii DOH has a quandary:
Misprision of a Felony:
Failing to Report a Felony
(supposedly this is per 18 USC 4)...
Whoever, having knowledge of the actual commission of a felony cognizable by a court of the United States, conceals and does not as soon as possible make known the same to some judge or other person in civil or military authority under the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
It comes from a friend who, I think, got it from ancestry.com. More information on immigration records is available here.
ML/NJ
Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House Obama is NOT a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
If an obvious forgery posted on the internet by Obama himself is not enough to bring him down, I seriously doubt some 50 yr old flight log manifests will.
Just another speck of dirt on the mountain of evidence that Obama is the biggest fraud in American history.
Thanks for the ping. From what I understand, HI does NOT have an identical copy of what Obama displayed but it has committed no crime. KB noted, and I have no reason to doubt him, that HI once and very slyly identified what they released as an “abstract”. Meaning it was compiled from information in their files but is not itself an original of anything whatsoever.
Iow, even if Little Barry’s original ‘birth record’/”notation” has him listed as Barry Steve Dunham, if later records—and they could be as recent as a couple of years ago—list him as Barack Obama, an ‘abstract’ could list the latter name w’out breaking any laws.
Ditto anything else on the original. For instance, if no father was listed, but a later record, following, for example, Little Barry’s adoption by Soetero, lists the ‘father’ as Obama Sr, the abstract can skip all the in between stuff and go with the latest iteration only.
It’s a mess, which is why HI will fight Taitz tooth and nail. As to the ‘we-are-so-much-smarter-and-more-sophisticated’ FReeper crowd, who mock Taitz and ‘birfoons’ ad nauseam, you people haven’t got one clue in a fog of clues what’s on Little Barry’s original ‘notation’. You bought the ‘abstract’ hook, line and dumb-bell, and now you get your jollies ridiculing less gullible/more informed FReepers. Go hog wild. If that’s the best you can do for entertainment, break a leg.
Me, I would rather learn the truth and find out what Little Barry is so ham-fistedly hiding.
But I guess that makes me a ‘birfoon’.
"The Pan Am collection is available for research. It consist of approximately 1,500 cubic feet of files. A preliminary, folder-level inventory provides a brief overview of the contents of the files. While this inventory is not available online, we will be happy to assist you with your research needs. Please send your queries to asc.library@miami.edu."
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