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Marc Faber: Don’t Store Your Gold In The United States
Zero Hedge ^ | 08/25/2011 | Simon Black of Sovereign Man

Posted on 08/25/2011 1:17:45 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

From Simon Black of Sovereign Man

Marc Faber: Don’t Store Your Gold In The United States

As usual, the CNBC hosts were completely dumbfounded.

Phoning in from Sao Paulo, Brazil, investment guru Marc Faber was a guest on CNBC last week, once again telling the unvarnished truth about the state of the world economy and bankrupt western nations.

This time, Faber had a very clear message: that everyone should own *physical* gold… and what’s more, they should store it outside of the United States:

I prefer if investors hold physical gold in a safe deposit box, ideally outside the US, in various locations… Switzerland, Singapore, Hong Kong, Australia, Canada… I think it’s important in today’s very uncertain world to diversify, not only the various asset classes… but also the custody of your assets should be in different jurisdictions.”

His hosts couldn’t believe it. -NOT- store in the United States, the bastion of freedom and security??!?! What lunacy!

CNBC: “Uh, so do you thus not trust US banks or US custodians? Do you think they might fail or abscond with the gold?”

Guffaws and incredulous snickers emerge from the hosts.

Faber: “I don’t trust anyone.”

Uncomfortable silence.

CNBC: “Hmmm. Interesting.”

Completely devoid of anything intelligent to say on the topic of sovereign diversification, they quickly changed the subject to talk about equities… but Faber soon came back to his original point.

Among other things, he mentioned that banks in Asia are FAR more stable and sound than they are in the west for not having invested so heavily in dead weight assets like Greek bonds or US mortgage-backed securities.

I couldn’t agree more.

This is a point I’ve been pounding on from day 1: internationalization, what I frequently call planting multiple flags, is absolutely critical to reducing your risk.

You won’t ever hear about it from the talking heads on state-sponsored media like CNBC. They refuse to look at the real world where America is no longer the center of the financial universe or the safest place to put money.
Truthfully, though, bankrupt nations like the United States pose the greatest risk of all to our prosperity and livelihood, regardless of whether we’re just starting out or have already achieved it.

This is because politicians will stop at nothing to maintain the status quo; the more they try to ‘fix’ things, the worse the situation becomes. They think they can borrow their way out of debt and spend their way out of recession. When these tactics don’t work, they just borrow and spend more.

In recent remarks during an official visit to Japan, Vice President Joe Biden said that China became the world’s second largest economy only because of US troop presence in Asia.

This line of reasoning only makes sense to a politician: China’s growth has nothing to do with its huge population, massive accumulation of savings, burgeoning technology, or culture of productivity… and everything to do with US military installations in South Korea, Japan, and Okinawa.

Such logic truly tests the patience of rational, thinking people, yet it exemplifies the kind of out-of-touch, mindless bureaucrat who is running the country.

Marc Faber has it absolutely right: entrusting the preponderance of your assets to these moronic sociopaths is a foolhardy endeavor. Own physical gold as a hedge against their idiotic fiscal policies, and store it overseas to make sure they can’t get their thieving hands on it.

Here in Austria, there’s a great secure storage facility in Vienna called Das Safe. You can rent a safety deposit box from them completely anonymously, and the box contents are insured for up to $50,000.

This is financial privacy at its finest… and if you want to take Marc Faber’s advice, you should definitely consider Das Safe. As an aside, Austria is also a great place to buy gold; you can purchase the gold ‘Philharmonic’ coin at almost every bank in the country at premiums as low as 3%.

If you’re serious about doing this, you should check out last month’s edition of Sovereign Man: Confidential. I covered a lot of detailed information about moving and storing gold overseas, including specialized contacts and obscure regulations that you need to know about.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: canada; commoditiesexporters; gold; marcfaber; oilsands; producers; storage
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

I would use GPS, for sure, but only while considering that it’s a convenience, not a permanent feature. The old school method of using landmarks, azimuths, pacing etc should still be used along with GPS, and most importantly of all, one must use fixed objects such as giant boulders as references. Even big trees could be gone when it’s time to dig up the goods. Or a shopping mall could have been built across that fallow field. National Parks and other places that will (probably) never be built on are recommended.


81 posted on 08/27/2011 6:30:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I agree 110% about moving to a place in the mountains with no diversity. The sooner the better! Location will be critical to getting through the coming social storms.

The advice about storing gold out of the country was, I think, really intended for folks in the “investor” class who are worried about being wiped out if all their assets are located in the USA. For them to recover their gold stored overseas, will be part of their relocating overseas. They are planting parachutes and liferafts around the world “just in case.”

We just don’t know what the coming storm will look like, but a French or Russian revolution twist is not out of the question, where “the evil rich” are the new “Kulak class,” to be rooted out and destroyed. That’s why Faber thinks it’s wise to stash some gold overseas....if you own enough assets to have “extra” to plant abroad.

I don’t think a French or Russian revolution would be successful here, but that’s beside the point. It would mean a horrible civil war at the very least. As Trotsky said about the Russian Civil War, “You may not be interested in war, but war is very interested in you.”


82 posted on 08/27/2011 6:36:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Palladin

What region do you live in? I have some ideas.


83 posted on 08/27/2011 6:38:09 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Georgia Girl 2; Palladin; FerFAL308

I think that’s a good plan. Read this by Fernando Aquirre, just on his blog:

Hi Alex, thanks for your email and I’m glad you’re liking the forum. Its getting more people every day and its getting pretty good.

From the security point of view the townhouse is safer. The security issue is pretty complex but that’s the short answer. Are you more likely to get your bike or football stolen if left on the front lawn? Yes. But is your isolated house more likely to get broken into and picked clean when you take a weekend off and leave the house empty for a couple days? Yes. I don’t like having people near by but I now know that not having neighbors in sight also means there wont be eyes watching while the bad guys break into your place. That’s what every criminal wants. There’s no guarantees though. With bad enough crime, you can suffer home invasions in the townhouse or detached house just as well.

There’s also other factors to keep in mind. Some people (me included) like having their privacy. Attached houses means you shore a bit too much with your neighbor.

The balance for me would be a community in the suburbs or near by small town or subdivision with detached houses. Close enough so as to have help, but still enough distance so as to have enough privacy.
At least for me it comes down to balancing with the different pros and cons. Security, privacy, distance from schools, work, stores, and can I reach them if the price of gas doubles next year? Walking distance is great, availability of public transportation would be preferred, or at the very least know I don’t have to drive 50km back and forth.

If the security problem isn’t very bad in the area you’re looking ( its probably not) I would look for a detached house, but one that has at least a couple neighbors within sight.
Take care,
FerFal

http://ferfal.blogspot.com/
“Surviving in Argentina”

(If you don’t have his book already, I HIGHLY recommend it! It’s much more practical than books which say that you will need a fortress in the mountains to survive.)

Book Link: “The Modern Survival Manual”

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-fHkuRlw6BpM/Th9YO_3TuEI/AAAAAAAAAeY/6RdB0p_fkok/s430/ferfal%2Bbook%2B24.95.jpg


84 posted on 08/27/2011 6:44:32 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I agree with you regarding civil war. We will not have an off with their heads revolution here. We believe that this country is in the middle of a cultural war between the Progressives and the Conservatives. Not rich vs poor. One side or the other has to win. The two ideologies are not compatible and people like us who want to restore the constitutional republic will never accept the socialist/marxist takeover that is in progress. If we cannot do it at the ballot box then it will be done another way.

My personal belief is that the states will eventually save the Republic. We may not even experience a shooting civil war. We will in all likelihood experience an economic collapse in the next several years and we will see the individual states just start to go their own way to survive. They don’t have to officially secede. States will probably regionally band together and just ignore the Federal Government even to the point of witholding Alchohol, tobacco and gas taxes. Without that money the government will cease to function within a few weeks. The power of the bureacracy will be diluted. Out of this it will be possible to forge a new streamlined federal government and revitalize our capitalistic free trade system. Thats my theory I could be wrong.

We have decided to go with the idea of moving near to a samll close knit community rather than to an isolated retreat 20 miles out in the woods. The place we have selected is 8 minutes by auto to the center of town but it feels like you are out in the middle of nowhere. Its on top of a mountain so unless you know where this place is you would never find it accidentally. We also feel like its important to be part of the community and not isolate yourself. We plan to join the Sherrif’s auxillery as some of our friends have done and participate in the food bank deliveries etc.


85 posted on 08/27/2011 11:22:47 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

That sounds like a great plan, and I hope all of our plans work out and we’re still freeping away a decade hence.


86 posted on 08/27/2011 8:05:13 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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