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Prominent Ron Paul website promotes Farrakhan anti-Jewish speech
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Posted on 08/28/2011 12:58:35 PM PDT by mnehring





Judging by the comments for the post, it would seem that a nexus of support for Ron Paul and Louis Farrakhan has coalesced around conspiracy theories concerning Jewish political power and banks.  Among other artifacts of extremism found in the discussion attached to the post is a link to an article in the Nation of Islam's official newspaper, The Final Call, spinning a conspiracy theory blaming the popular uprising against Qaddafi not on an expression of Arab Spring revolutionary spirit, but (predictably) on a conspiracy of bankers upset about Qaddafi's monetary policies.  (Read here.)  The Final Call article fails to mention the Qaddafi regime's long history of violently suppressing political opposition -- suppression which rose to unprecedented levels of brutality in response to demonstrations in support of liberalizing Libya's political system.  Rather than citing revulsion at Qaddafi's massacre of peaceful Arab Spring demonstrators as the cause of the NATO intervention, the Final Call quotes Farrakhan as saying:

“I know why you are angry with him; because he never agreed with your policies when it came to sucking the resources of Third World peoples, and putting in place dictators that would be amenable to America's policies.”

It has long been known that some Ron Paul supporters share with Farrakhan a strong opposition to the central banking system, support for isolationist foreign policy, and a conspiratorial view of Israel and Jews which verges on paranoia.  Now we can add support for Muammar Qaddafi to that list.  Makes sense.

Below is the string of comments submitted by the Daily Paul forum members in response to the Farrakhan videos.  It is interesting to see them working out how to talk about these issues without sounding bigoted -- that whole "we're opposed to Zionists, not Jews" thing.  Only they get it a bit wrong.  One commenter seems to think the founder of Goldman Sachs is still alive as he argues that Goldman Sachs ins't bad because it's Jewish. "I don't consider Goldman a Jew I see him as being of Israeli descent big difference."  Another argues that his support for Naturei Karta  shows that he can't be an anti-Semite.

The main point of Farrakhan's speech, that international bankers and Zionists work together to control the world and punish those who resist that control, and that the Libya conflict results from that conspiracy, meets with broad approval among at least this group of Paul supporters.  I wonder what Ron Paul would say about it?


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 911truther; alsocantspell; antisemite; farrakhan; israel; lewrockwell; libertarians; libya; nationofislam; randpaultruthfile; ronpaul; ronpaultruthfile
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1 posted on 08/28/2011 12:58:39 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Absolutely Nobama; BlackElk; SJackson

ping


2 posted on 08/28/2011 12:59:18 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

Ron Paul = Lyndon LaRouche?


3 posted on 08/28/2011 1:03:13 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: mnehring

Yes. He has a certain niche. Like Reagan on limited government, but like Ted Kennedy on social issues and like Dennis Kucinich and Barack Obama on anti-semitism and world affairs.


4 posted on 08/28/2011 1:08:31 PM PDT by dinoparty
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To: mnehring

I wish I could say “I’m shocked, shocked I tell yah.” But I cannot.


5 posted on 08/28/2011 1:15:16 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: mnehring

I am definitely NOT a Ron Paul fan; I admire his domestic policy agenda but despise his pacifist-isolationist-defeatist positions. Nonetheless NONE of the dozen or so fans of his I know are anti-semitic or pro-Farrakhan or pro-islam in any way.


6 posted on 08/28/2011 1:18:14 PM PDT by FreeKeys ("Most of the voters [in 2008]...wanted an incompetent adolescent narcissist for president."- JRDunn)
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To: mnehring

Paul is supported by some very rotten people. I don’t think that is a coincidence.


7 posted on 08/28/2011 1:24:36 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: mnehring

ron paul has just given interviews or iranian TV that have come mighty close to, if not outright, treason. He should be called on it immediately.


8 posted on 08/28/2011 1:30:46 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: FreeKeys

“I admire his domestic policy agenda”

Except that ron paul does not DO as ron paul SAYS. ron paul is a charlatan.


9 posted on 08/28/2011 1:34:33 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: FreeKeys
I think you are correct and I also know if you confront them with Paul's records on Israel and his anti-Semitism they deny deny deny and deny some more.
Personally, I think many Paul supporters do not actually know what he believes or how he has voted.
10 posted on 08/28/2011 1:41:01 PM PDT by svcw
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To: MestaMachine; FreeKeys

Just saw a tape of a past Cavoto show where the crawler says Paul as a congressman gets more earmarks for his district than any other Republican. Paul said something like getting these earmarks are like tax rebates and that is his primary job to bring back federal money to his district.


11 posted on 08/28/2011 1:43:56 PM PDT by svcw
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To: mnehring
I wonder what Ron Paul would say about it?

I wonder when Adam Holland stopped beating his wife? Hmmm? Oh, and I heard some racists support the tea party too ... that just cannot be a coincidence.

12 posted on 08/28/2011 1:45:15 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: MestaMachine
He reminds me of some past charismatic politicians, they used popular emotions and platitudes to gain peoples trust and once in power the betray them by brushing aside their concerns and problems to build his new, perfect order.

Paul's foreign policy and beliefs are naive at best and will do great harm to the US economy and regional stability at worst it could result in the death of millions of Americans.

13 posted on 08/28/2011 1:51:29 PM PDT by SeaWolf (Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century US Congress when he wrote 1984)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Roger that!


14 posted on 08/28/2011 1:59:38 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Not Only Am I Absolutely Nobama, I am Absolutely Non Paul.)
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To: GeronL

Yep.


15 posted on 08/28/2011 2:00:50 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Not Only Am I Absolutely Nobama, I am Absolutely Non Paul.)
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To: MestaMachine

Out of normal and healthy curiosity, why hasn’t the Weeper of The House called him out on it ?


16 posted on 08/28/2011 2:04:07 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Not Only Am I Absolutely Nobama, I am Absolutely Non Paul.)
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To: mnehring

It strikes me that “I Am A Bad Israeli” could be a great post.


17 posted on 08/28/2011 2:10:14 PM PDT by RichInOC (KATZ: HOW ARE YOU GENTLEMEN!! ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US. HA HA HA HA....)
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To: FreeKeys
That's true. For a brief time, I was one of RuPaul's Useful Idiots, until I started reading garbage like the DailyPaul. Then, I started reading some of Lew Rockwell's nonsense and returned to planet Earth. I think it's more that RuPaul says what people want to hear, just like Third World Dictator Obama. Ru's record on smaller government is non-existent.
18 posted on 08/28/2011 2:10:26 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Not Only Am I Absolutely Nobama, I am Absolutely Non Paul.)
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To: svcw

They’re drones like Chairman Obama’s thugs.


19 posted on 08/28/2011 2:12:09 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Not Only Am I Absolutely Nobama, I am Absolutely Non Paul.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

I would suspect that no one has raised a big enough stink. You have to beat these critters severely about the head and shoulders to get them to pay attention to ANYTHING besides their own self interest.


20 posted on 08/28/2011 2:13:52 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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To: MestaMachine

That’s true. For a second, I thought they cared. It’s the Pollyanna is me, I guess.

:)


21 posted on 08/28/2011 2:16:36 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Not Only Am I Absolutely Nobama, I am Absolutely Non Paul.)
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To: MestaMachine

AMEN!!! Was was going to post this!


22 posted on 08/28/2011 2:24:37 PM PDT by chilepup
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To: mnehring
Some of his “supporters” post his viewpoints here.
23 posted on 08/28/2011 2:25:28 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I love how the FR spellchecker doesn't recognize the word "Obama")
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To: SeaWolf

Populist Huey Long, perhaps ? Granted, their platforms are completely different, but the populist theme is there.

My big fear is isn’t RuPaul winning the Republican nomination. My big fear is the arrogant and lazy media tying RuPaul and his gang to the Conservative Movement during the 2012 Demolition Derby.

I wish the other candidates would start attacking him already. Then they can go after Myth Romney and Jon Huntsman(Who ?)


24 posted on 08/28/2011 2:28:31 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Not Only Am I Absolutely Nobama, I am Absolutely Non Paul.)
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To: svcw

Sounds....kinda socialist, huh ?


25 posted on 08/28/2011 2:29:57 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Not Only Am I Absolutely Nobama, I am Absolutely Non Paul.)
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To: Absolutely Nobama

Is the DailyPaul a Ron Paul publication?


26 posted on 08/28/2011 2:39:53 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: achilles2000

Ron Paul doesn’t run Daily Paul. His campaign doesn’t operate Daily Paul. But Daily Paul has been around 4 years or so, and it’s considered a grassroots Ron Paul website, about Ron Paul, considered pro Ron Paul. Ron Paul and the official campaign have no control over the content.


27 posted on 08/28/2011 3:05:20 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: HereInTheHeartland

Ron Paul: think Ross Perot.

A third party spoiler whose sole aim is to derail the Republican candidate.

1988: Dukakis loses with 44 percent to GHWB.

1992: Clinton wins with 43 percent over GHWB.

Bottom line. Throw in fanatical sign-ripping minions for even more similarities.


28 posted on 08/28/2011 3:06:55 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: truthfreedom

I suspected as much. Thank you.


29 posted on 08/28/2011 3:10:16 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: achilles2000

Not according to the disclaimer on the bottom.

To be fair to RuPaul, he may not even know it exists.

But there’s a good chance his svengali, Lew Rockwell, knows all about it.

(Lew Rockwell was Ru’s chief of staff until 1982, I believe.)


30 posted on 08/28/2011 3:14:49 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Not Only Am I Absolutely Nobama, I am Absolutely Non Paul.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks mnehring.


31 posted on 08/28/2011 4:35:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: mnehring

Great post! Thank you.


32 posted on 08/28/2011 4:55:21 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Not Only Am I Absolutely Nobama, I am Absolutely Non Paul.)
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To: mnehring
I went looking for that article on the Daily Paul and it isn't there.

So whether this is a photoshop job to begin with, or whether it's been taken down is anyone's guess.

33 posted on 08/28/2011 6:38:53 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: Bokababe

Looks like it has been edited since this article was written but still mostly intact. (the URL still shows the title in this article even though it has been modified at Daily Paul)

http://www.dailypaul.com/169588/farrakhan-zionists-dominate-the-government-of-the-usa-and-the-banking-system


34 posted on 08/28/2011 7:02:35 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Absolutely Nobama
My concern is that the media will egg him to running as a third party candidate in the hopes that it will get Obama reelected. It will probably work.
35 posted on 08/28/2011 7:11:11 PM PDT by SeaWolf (Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century US Congress when he wrote 1984)
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To: mnehring
Looks like it has been edited since this article was written but still mostly intact. (the URL still shows the title in this article even though it has been modified at Daily Paul)

You're right. It's been changed -- by someone with a brain.

36 posted on 08/28/2011 11:03:52 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: mnehring; PhilipFreneau
Freneau: Proud as you are of Ron Paul, are you proud to associate with the publishers of the Daily Paul or are you disturbed by their anti-semitism? You would not confuse this Paulistinian effort with the ideas of George Washington or Thomas Jefferson, would you? Do you have a problem with the fact that Israel is an American ally? Your boy is going down big time. Will the Galveston pipsqueak actually investigate the Federal Reserve while he still holds pubnlic office and the committee position to do so or is that another fraud by paleoPaulie to gull the suckers?

mnehring: Thanks for another worthy contribution to reveal the nature of the Paulistinian movement.

37 posted on 08/29/2011 12:25:33 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club: Burn 'em Bright!!!)
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To: BlackElk

>>>Proud as you are of Ron Paul, are you proud to associate with the publishers of the Daily Paul or are you disturbed by their anti-semitism? <<<

I don’t know either way. I just visited the site for the first time, arbitrarily chose one of the linked articles, read half a dozen comments, or so, and nothing anti-semitic. But I did read this comment:

“Maybe someone should let him know that as of 2007, there are more black babies aborted than are born in New York. What is more racist than taking the life of an unborn black child before it has even taken it’s first breath?”

What is your point. Ron Paul has no control over this web site?

>>>You would not confuse this Paulistinian effort with the ideas of George Washington or Thomas Jefferson, would you?<<<

I think he admires them, and uses their letters and speeches as a guide to his interpretation of the constitution. That is quite noble, in my opinion.

In the future, please use “Paul” or “Ron Paul”. Your rant is hard enough to understand without the extra burden of all these ridiculous “nicknames” you have for Paul.

>>>Do you have a problem with the fact that Israel is an American ally?<<<

Absolutely not. I do have a problem with a Palestinian state, you know, the one both Obama and Bush pushed for? I really like Ron Paul’s position on Israel, which is [paraphrased]: “Israel is rich, and they have hundreds of nukes. They can take care of themselves.”

>>>Your boy is going down big time.<<<

Then the country will not be far behind. Ideologues like you don’t know how to elect anyone but a RINO. This nation cannot take another four years of Obama or Obama-lite.

>>>Will the Galveston pipsqueak actually investigate the Federal Reserve while he still holds pubnlic office and the committee position to do so or is that another fraud by paleoPaulie to gull the suckers?<<<

As much as the law allows. I believe the Federal Reserve Act was written in such a way that, unless it is repealed or amended, the Fed cannot even be audited. Correct me if I am wrong.

>>>Thanks for another worthy contribution to reveal the nature of the Paulistinian movement.<<<

Thanks for wasting my time.


38 posted on 08/30/2011 2:05:00 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

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39 posted on 08/30/2011 5:07:12 AM PDT by SJackson (Normal people don't sit cross-legged on the floor and bang on drums, WI State Sen Glenn Grothman (R))
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To: mnehring

I am beginning to loathe this guy almost as much as I loathe the “Lyin’ King”.


40 posted on 08/30/2011 5:16:25 AM PDT by left that other site (Psalm 122:6)
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To: GeronL
Ron Paul = Lyndon LaRouche?

I'm beginning to think so. He's acting like a KKK grand whatever. Always DID think he was nutty.

41 posted on 08/30/2011 10:01:30 AM PDT by madison10
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To: FreeKeys

“Nonetheless NONE of the dozen or so fans of his I know are anti-semitic or pro-Farrakhan or pro-islam in any way.”

That may be true for the Ron Paul fans YOU KNOW, but it would seem that there are such people among the Ron Paul fans, for they provided the link to the “Final Call” screed blaming the west’s belated anti-Qaddafi mood on a cabal of Jewish bankers.

Among less well-educated and less well-informed Conservatives there is a sizable quotient that DO subscribe to any number of conspiracy theories and who do frequently, in my opinion, place themselves in the body of any number of populist causes espoused by very un-Conservative people.

I am not terribly surprised that among Ron Paul supporters in dialogue on his website were some who made, and knew of, the link to Farrakan’s Jewish Conspiracy theory.

There may be no direct link to Ron Paul himself in THIS matter, though he his not known in Congress as an ardent defender of Israel, and some would go as far as to say he has been an opponent of the extent of U.S. support for Israel - an extent that some of us Conservatives would characterize as often not supportive enough.


42 posted on 08/30/2011 11:21:07 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Absolutely Nobama

forget the site, he made an alliance with Ralph Nader? He made an anti-Israel/anti-US speech on Iranian TV? I bet he had something to do with himself.


43 posted on 08/30/2011 12:33:40 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: SJackson

Farrakhan isn’t a Joo!-hater for making the speech, but Ron Paul is for linking the video. Now if you nibble on the mushroom you’ll shrink, Alice.


44 posted on 08/30/2011 2:26:20 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: mnehring

This is kind of a cheap shot. Paul has enough real baggage. No need to manufacture stuff.


45 posted on 08/30/2011 2:29:43 PM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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To: mnehring

And why is anyone surprised? Ron Paul has an ugly history of anti-Semitism & anti-Israel sentiments.
He is only gravitating towards his natural allies ... those who do not see Iran and militant Islam as an existential threat to America, not to mention Israel.


46 posted on 08/30/2011 4:10:57 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: mnehring

The site has been scrubbed. Google cached version here:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:zP-4zUScgLEJ:www.dailypaul.com/56948/does-louis-farrakhan-sound-like-ron-paul-videos+daily+paul+farrakhan&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari&source=www.google.com


47 posted on 08/30/2011 4:24:55 PM PDT by Cincinna ( *** NOBAMA 2012 ***)
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To: GeronL

Kinda makes ya wonder why the Weeper of the House hasn’t put RuPaul in his place.


48 posted on 08/30/2011 7:46:33 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Not Only Am I Absolutely Nobama, I am Absolutely Non Paul.)
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To: svcw

That’s called the “redistribution of wealth”.


49 posted on 08/30/2011 7:47:41 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Not Only Am I Absolutely Nobama, I am Absolutely Non Paul.)
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To: FreeKeys

“Nonetheless NONE of the dozen or so fans of his I know are anti-semitic or pro-Farrakhan or pro-islam in any way.”

He and most of his fans favor Palestine over Israel. That’s a Muslim/Jew issue for sure. And since his fans parrot his talking points, I guess they’re now also in favor of the Twelver in Iran getting nukes to accomplish his stated goal of wiping Israel off the map, then going after us.

I’m talking about all the dyed in the wool Paul fanati-bots. So maybe the few you know are just lukewarm, partial fans who don’t buy into the total program.


50 posted on 08/30/2011 9:45:07 PM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!)
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