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1 posted on 09/04/2011 12:42:19 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
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I’m sorry. If she was “extraordinary politically talented” she would have found someway over the past year to raise her approvals to a level which would give some of us confidence she could beat Obama in November.

My question to Palin supporters is, why hasn’t she been able to do that, and where do you get the confidence going forward that she can do that? The left launched another round of ridicule at her this morning on the Sunday Morning Shows, and she hasn’t shown the ability to fight back.

I’d love to vote for her and be the nominee and be the President. But I don’t see this “magic political genius” that everybody else does where she’s going to start campaigning, and the media is going to melt and stop ripping her to shreds.


36 posted on 09/04/2011 1:22:27 PM PDT by rjeffries
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Remember "Bachmann backers to Perry: She’s the ‘honest conservative’ in the race"?

Sound like the PAC was right.

37 posted on 09/04/2011 1:23:20 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Compassionate Conservatism? Promoting self reliance is compassionate. Promoting dependency is not.)
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Thanks for the great post Brice. I am a Palin supporter to be sure but know little about Gov. Perry. I will use your excellent post and others from well informed Freepers to “vet” the Texas Governor against other candidates. When Governor Palin “officially” enters the race, I’ll need some popcorn and a soft chair to watch the show!


38 posted on 09/04/2011 1:23:46 PM PDT by jazztrptman (Sarah Palin is a God-send for our country and for conservatives)
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Bookmarked!


40 posted on 09/04/2011 1:25:43 PM PDT by b9 ("The sting of criticism is the truth of it." ~ Benjamin Franklin)
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She may or may not have had Governor Rick Perry in mind when she said this, but it is a fact that Perry--who never fails to brandish his humble beginnings as a rural farmer--has become very wealthy over the course of his 27 years in public office. He has had a series of questionable real estate deals with other politicians and with contributors that have netted him millions. His Horseshoe Bay deal, for example, involved State Senator Troy Fraser and two business partners (one who sold the land to Fraser; the other who bought it from Perry) and netted the Governor a cool $823,000 profit in 2007 on only a 300,000 investment in 2001. Then there was the deal in which Perry, while serving as state Agriculture Commissioner, bought 10 acres of undeveloped land in 1993 for $123,000 and sold it the next year to Michael Dell, a computer magnate for $465,000, three times what he paid for it. Interestingly, Michael Toomey, an influential lobbyist actually closed the sale for Perry (who was out of town at the time). Toomey later became Perry's Chief of Staff and, after that, became a lobbyist for Merck where he was instrumental in lobbying Perry to issue the gardasil mandate, which stood to make millions for Merck, while endangering the health of pre-teen Texas girls. And these are just a few of the scores of examples of such shenanigans, which the opposition researchers in the White House are poring over.

This is frankly an assinine argument. Do you know what Rick Perry's net work is? He's 61 years old, and has worked his entire adult life. He currently makes about $150,000 a year as Governor.

His Net Worth? In 2009, estimated to be about $1 million dollars. Yep. He sure profited from his public service. I fully plan to have a net worth of at least that much when I turn 61.

I think conservatives attacking people for having money is silly, for making money is silly, and especially when they have barely made it into the millionaires club.

And I can't believe a Sarah Palin supporter is going to try to make an argument about someone profiting from public service. The argument against Perry (made by his democratic opponent who was worth almost 3 times Perry) was that when Perry entered public service, his net worth was $13,000, and now it's over a million, so he "made all his money" off of public service.

But 27 years to net $1 million is nothing. It's what every american should strive for, in order to secure their own retirement.

Clearly, when Palin entered public service in 1994, the Palins didn't have any real money. But now she is worth 12 to 14 million dollars. That's 12-14 times richer than Rick Perry, who supposedly is the poster-child for making money off of public service.

Now, maybe you would argue that Sarah Palin would be a multi-millionare even if she hadn't been picked for VP by McCain, and turned that into a full-time profession of rallying people to conservative causes -- a profession that is worthy and necessary.

And Palin supporters have repeatedly argued for her resignation as Governor precisely because being governor was costing her money (Because of the frivolous ethics charges, and I agree it was best for her to resign), and so she could go out and make money off her popularity, which she did by writing two books and starring in her own TV series, and also being a political pundit on Fox News, and she even made money doing political speeches (although at least some times she donated that money, so I don't know if she ever really cleared anything there).

The point is that nobody is going to begrudge Sarah Palin her fame and fortune, even though it came from public service. But for people supporting a candidate whose net worth is over 10 million dollars to try to attack another candidate who managed to squeak together a million-dollar nest egg in 27 years of public service (well, more than 27 if we don't ignore that he served admirably in our country's military), is just silly.

Class warfare is a weapon of the left, and White tried it in the 2010 election -- the election where Palin supported Rick Perry, calling him a conservative we needed, and not once mentioning that she thought he was the epitome of "crony capitalism". But for supporters of a newly-minted multi-millionare candidate to attack a barely millionare candidate for "profiting from public service" is simply absurd.

For those of you who misread everything I write, I will again point out that NOTHING in this post is an attack on Sarah Palin. I've faithfully mentioned facts, and I don't think they are disputable. I have not spoken unfavorably of her resignation, which I supported, nor of her wealth, which I applaud, or how she made it, which is by taking advantage of the opportunities provided to her by her popularity and message.

43 posted on 09/04/2011 1:29:45 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Exceptionally well done, BC, as usual.


52 posted on 09/04/2011 1:33:50 PM PDT by GlockLady (Sarah Palin - The Antidote - Going Oval January 20, 2013!)
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63 posted on 09/04/2011 1:48:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Palin is coming, and the Tea Party is coming with her.)
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Addendum: I used a 2010 politifact article which provided the estimate of Perry's net worth at $1.1 million.

THere are other listings for Perry's net worth (most of which is tied up in a blind trust that he has no control over and which doesn't generally disclose it's value).

David Frum, everybody's favorite conservative (sarcasm), making about the exact same argument against Perry as you do here, claims Perry's net worth is now $2.8 million dollars.

Frum of course isn't attacking Perry because he thinks he's too liberal, quite the opposite. But I wanted to disclose that number as an alternative.

However, Frum gives no evidence for that number, and this link says $1 million, as does every other reference I can find; Frum seems to be an outlier in the Perry net worth guessing-game. Rick Perry: Net worth: $1 million

BTW, when he was a state legislator, that was a part-time job which paid about $7200 a year -- so he wasn't really living off the public for all of his 27 years, unless you consider $7200 a living wage.

As I said, I'm guessing this attack, which was launched first by Bill White the democrat in the 2010 election, and has been resurrected in the past week by lefty blogs and David Frum, will go nowhere, simply because making $1 million in 27 years as a 61-year-old is unremarkable.

And when you look at the details, most of the money came from a couple of very fortunate deals, but deals that were out in the public, and not offered to Perry as exclusives. IN other words, this isn't the case where someone privately sold Perry land which later was found valuable. His two big deals he bought on the open market, they were available for ANYBODY to purchase, just he was smart enough or informed enough to purchase them.

In the one case, the investment was a sound one to begin with, but then Dell (of Dell computers) needed the land to get to public sewers so they paid a pretty penny for it.

Interestingly, the argument there was that somehow Perry knew that Dell would need access to the sewers, but that Dell himself did NOT know he'd need it -- hence why Dell didn't buy the land when Perry did, but rather looked at it two years later.

In the other case, it was a long-term investment where everybody who bought land in the area made a killing, not just Perry. So yes, he did profit off good investment, but not exclusively, everybody who thought it would be a good investment and bought the land made money. And there doesn't appear to be any specific government action that MADE the land suddenly worth more.

But with all of that, he's worth $1 million, or if you believe David Frum, $2.8 million. If he was trading his political connections for fortune, he didn't do a very good job.

64 posted on 09/04/2011 1:49:43 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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Hey, psycho, Palin didn't "call out Perry". For if she had that would make her an utter hypocrite. After all, didn't she state this about him:

"He does what is right regardless of whether it is popular. He walks the walk of a true conservative"

So which is it? Is the above sentiment what she really thinks or not? If not, why did she state it?

70 posted on 09/04/2011 1:56:02 PM PDT by jla
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he has created similar "funds" which have doled out $633 million to such "start up enterprises" as Home Depot, Tyson Foods, Sanderson Farms and Countrywide.

He has created two funds. One, the Texas Enterprises Fund, gives out grants to companies, many of them established companies such as the ones mentioned in this article, to locate facilities in Texas when they otherwise might locate them somewhere else. The Texas Enterprise Fund does not have as part of its mission statement that applicants must be start-ups. Is there any question that the companies mentioned in this article received funds from the Texas Enterprise Fund?

The other fund is the Texas Emerging Technology Fund which has as its purpose to invest in new technologies that otherwise would not make it into the marketplace. None of the companies mentioned in the article received an investmetn from the Texas Emerging Technology Fund.

So on this point this article is spreading inaccurate information.

72 posted on 09/04/2011 2:00:33 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Brices Crossroads; 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ...

Take off and nuke K Street from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.

PING!


83 posted on 09/04/2011 2:16:09 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (It's the Tea Party's fault!)
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She gave a great speech yesterday. In spite of the pouring rain it was an enjoyable rally. Even after the three hour drive home, our clothes were still wet.


85 posted on 09/04/2011 2:18:18 PM PDT by Vor Lady (Everyone should read The Importance of the Electoral College by Geo. Grant)
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None of us even had Sarah Palin on our radar until John "biggest Rino ever" McCain, chose her for his running mate.

And she accepted.

So we just forget that and all it implies?

96 posted on 09/04/2011 2:36:16 PM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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She took no shots at Gov Perry. I've listened to the speech 2 times. You wanted her speech to be a slam at Perry but it wasn't. Makes no difference to you though because you heard what you wanted to hear.

If you think she was taking shots at Gov Perry, you haven't been paying attention.

113 posted on 09/04/2011 3:49:00 PM PDT by Outlaw Woman (Palin/Perry, Perry/Palin, Palin or Perry, Perry or Palin 2012....Any Questions?)
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First, congrats on a superb essay..one of the best posted on FR in a long time..not only do you present a cogent analysis, but you write well..an added bonus.

I'd like to elaborate on your central thesis, based upon my analysis of her speech. I now believe she's running, and will announce after Thanksgiving.

In taking on the establishment, career pols, of BOTH parties, Palin is in effect saying that the supercommittee will FAIL. I believe she's correct in this assumption. And then it will be time for the people to begin to take back their government..and she will be the one to lead the way.

129 posted on 09/04/2011 5:31:14 PM PDT by ken5050
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>> The permanent political class can only exist on the oxygen supplied by crony capitalists, who “pay to play” <<

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They don’t breathe oxygen at all; they’re Anerobic, like Cancer cells always are; they live by fermentation causing political Cachexia in Washington.


130 posted on 09/04/2011 5:45:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Sarah Palin - 2012 !)
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