Posted on 09/26/2011 10:05:11 AM PDT by el_texicano
Okay, let's try the same sort of stuff on you......
If cows start to fly, can I interest you in a really, really big sheet metal umbrella?
If you are going to indulge in intuitive leaps, try to keep the distance to something less than light years. Sheesh.
Suppose it WAS in America's best interest? As the article points out, it would definitely be in America's best interest for Obama to resign. Is he a hero because he's not a "quitter?" Is he a hero because he puts his own interests above ours? I pray every day that he'll leave office and spare our country any further damage. He would never put the country's best interests above his personal ambition and ideology. Look where that's gotten us.
You didn’t say anything about her “being human.” You compared her to a pig. I take it you don’t like the comparison where it comes to yourself. That being the case, what does treating a human being like a human being have to do with worship? Unless maybe it would be invoking the Golden Rule. You know?
Silk purse/sow's ear is an old and time-honored addage.
I would thank you kindly not to twist what I post.
“I’m sorry, but you can’t make a silk purse out of a sow’s ear.”
Gee, that’s brilliant. Did you think that up all by yourself? Stick around, Noobie, maybe you’ll learn something.
Being you seem too ignorant to recognize a saying your grandmother employed, I'll leave you with the above explanation.
Be advised, I have to get to class now. I shall not be posting again for several hours (and I know you'll miss me.)
What, exactly, is a sow?
Your profile page states you are a oollege undergrad. See if you can figure out what is wrong with these three sentences:
“I see. Palin is above critisism.”
“The point is, she is a politician, and no politician is right every time on everything. By worshipping the ground she treads on and refusing to acknowledge that Palin is only human, like you and me, you guys are making a huge mistake...”
Usually, I wouldn’t say anything, but every, once in awhile, there is an exception, to the rule. A college undergrad? Really?
And you come bearing insults?
Interesting. You have denied an allegation that has not even been made. LMAO @ you.
Do it NOW. For help with PDS call 1-800-I NEED HELP.
You don’t need to continue to suffer from those itchy pus filled sores. You don’t need to check under your bed at night to see if a real conservative is there. There is help for this mental illness. Make the call NOW and change your life.
Good luck......
And look, you've got me posting in class now. SHAME on you.
ROFL!
BTW. Ain’t you glad this addiction ain’t heroin? Just don’t let the profs catch you here.
I ‘get’ that whoever writes under the pen name “Mark America” is with C4P and has a 100% pro-Palin perspective. However, this item would be more persuasive if he brought up that this was done not solely for the sake of the State of Alaska, but also for the sake of the Palin Family whose resources had been depleted to the tune of $500K or so as we were told at the time.
No pol should have to put his/her family in that kind of financial jeopardy, and people understand that. But to claim that the resignation was all for the benefit of the people of and the State of Alaska detracts from the argument. There was more to it and shouldn’t be glossed over.
In this case, as I’ve read here, the law that was so costly to Gov. Palin was her own doing. It was she who championed the law. It contained no provision to reimburse cleared elected officials, or to make those filing false charges liable, for the costs of prosecuting/defending. Amazingly, now that she’s out of office, the law has not been modified so far as I’ve read.
The principal of the school was the center of a great division in the congregation. I was aware of the problems but the general congregation was not. During one voters meeting at about the peak of the divide, someone stood up and demanded to know why such a wonderful man of God did not have support of the congregation, etc. Leadership couldn't say anything. The principal stood up and stated he was advised by the Synod not to comment.
At that moment he lost his leadership and integrity. Later I met with him and told that he had no integrity and leadership. he was surprised and asked why. This is what I told him:
At some point you decided to take a leadership role you agreed that the organization is more important than you are, especially in a church setting. When the issue came up during a voters meeting you said nothing except you couldn't comment.
It was at this very moment you lost your integrity and leadership. You are willing to allow the congregation to become divided in order to retain your job.
He asked me what he should have done. I told him he should have stood up and stated publicly that he would not allow a church division occur over him and then resigned effect at the end of the current semester. Had he done that I would have supported him and been his biggest cheerleader.
He did leave a year later. We talked again and I told him he was doing the right thing but at the wrong time. I did support him and he found another occupation. We became friends after this. He passed away 4 weeks ago.
I see no difference. Palin knew that he staying on would cause damage to the State of Alaska and when she was elected governor she agreed that the state took precedence over her. She acted on this and because of this she has exhibited tremendous leadership.
I have been involved in law enforcement for many years. I have worked for many different Chiefs and have been a Chief. I would follow Palin because I respect her. This very act has removed any doubt in my opinion of her ability to be President.
When she quit palin(™) did not give the legal issues as the reason or even a reason.
Nope, she said that, since she would not be running again, she was effectively a lame-duck. She went on to say...
"And so as I thought about this announcement that I wouldn't run for re-election and what it means for Alaska, I thought about how much fun some governors have as lame ducks... travel around the state, to the Lower 48 (maybe), overseas on international trade - as so many politicians do. And then I thought - that's what's wrong - many just accept that lame duck status, hit the road, draw the paycheck, and "milk it".
Then...
"I'm not putting Alaska through that - I promised efficiencies and effectiveness!"
And then she quit.
Well, where is it written that every "lame-duck" politician must do nothing but waste the taxpayers' money on junkets? It isn't - far many more "lame-duck" politicians work their damnedest to get their agenda accomplished before they turn over the keys.
And, when did eighteen months left in office qualify as "lame-duck"? - It doesn't.
And, using nothing but her own rationale and definition, why would we not expect palin(™) to quit with 18 months left of any future elected position?
Nope....her words are out there forever for you to ignore or acknowledge...you can do either but you can't change them.
And, while you ignore them (as we both know you will), you might want to ponder why, since she was going to quit, did she bother to first make a case for not running for a second term.
Heck, if you quit of course you're not going to run again.
You may find this act honorable, presidential and a stroke of genius but I sure do not and I'd wager that neither would the 68-70 million American voters that she would need to win the White house.
It was pretty clear to me that you were young and inexperienced, so there was no point in trying to argue.
Okay, chief, just for the record....
You’re not going to vote for Palin, so just who is it that you DO support?
(I’m not fond of BS either, so keep it to the point.)
Let’s look at the truth of your nonsense.
Over the past nine months I’ve been accused of all sorts of frivolous ethics violations – such as holding a fish in a photograph, wearing a jacket with a logo on it, and answering reporters’ questions.
Every one – all 15 of the ethics complaints have been dismissed. We’ve won! But it hasn’t been cheap
“the State has wasted THOUSANDS of hours of YOUR time and shelled out some two million of YOUR dollars to respond to “opposition research” – that’s money NOT going to fund teachers or troopers – or safer roads. And this political absurdity, the “politics of personal destruction”
“It’s pretty insane – my staff and I spend most of our day dealing with THIS instead of progressing our state now. I know I promised no more “politics as usual,” but THIS isn’t what anyone had in mind for ALASKA.”
“You can choose to engage in things that tear down, or build up. I choose to work very hard on a path for fruitfulness and productivity. I choose NOT to tear down and waste precious time; but to build UP this state and our country, and her industrious, generous, patriotic, free people!”
“it may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: “Sit down and shut up”, but that’s the worthless, easy path; that’s a quitter’s way out. And a problem in our country today is apathy. It would be apathetic to just hunker down and “go with the flow”.”
“So I choose, for my State and my family, more “freedom” to progress, all the way around… so that Alaska may progress… I will not seek re-election as Governor.”
Now let’s look at where you pulled your quote from to try to delude and dishonestly lead people who you thought were too stupid to know different.
And so as I thought about this announcement that I wouldn’t run for re-election and what it means for Alaska, I thought about how much fun some governors have as lame ducks… travel around the state, to the Lower 48 (maybe), overseas on international trade – as so many politicians do. And then I thought – that’s what’s wrong – many just accept that lame duck status, hit the road, draw the paycheck, and “milk it”. I’m not putting Alaska through that – I promised efficiencies and effectiveness! ? That’s not how I am wired.
Here’s how you tried to put it to make it look like something she didn’t do.
>>"I'm not putting Alaska through that - I promised efficiencies and effectiveness!"
And then she quit.<<
In other words you lied. In the speech she had already announced that she was resigning and the reason for it long before she made that comment. Not only did you misquote but you excerpted to make it look like she said something she didn’t say.
Don’t try that crap with me and think you’re going to get by with it. You’ve been outed as having lied.
See his lies pointed out in post 58.
like other people, Palin resigned from office to run for president, or at least that will be clear when she announces. Not all do that of course, some instead keep their paycheck, others do not run for re-election and are unemployed a la Mitt, looking for a job.
she couldnt say in july 2009 she was resigning to run for president, obviously.
she resigned immediately rather than fill out her term because the peculiar Alasks ethics law was strangling the governor’s office, imperiling necessary state work, and not incidentally bankrupting her family.
had there been no legal lynching attempt, my speculation is she would have resigned a year later, in time to help with mid -terms. Sarah Palin spoke with Greta right after the 2008 election and made clear then she was very interested in running for president.
the resignation was a politically risky thing to do. Real conservatives can defend her on this issue. No DimBulbs will buy it and some Indies may not. But my question is why allegedly conservative freepers still want to string Palin up. The circumstances surrounding her resignation were quite unusual and justified her response. She resigned from an AK oil commission and went on to beat corrupt Republicans and win the governorship. Electability should play a concern in whom we nominate, but at this point anybody but David Duke will beat Zero.
I do not understand your obsession with this issue. I an a Palin supporter but I do not think Perry is texas toast because of his debate, at least i hope not. We need him if Palin doesnt run. I like Cain. Heck i have posted nice about Newt, the guy is smart but the Nancy Pelosi and dede fiascos in a guy this experienced really make me wonder about him
And it is probably true, had she not resigned, that some allegedly conservative freepers would disqualify her for president saying gross lack of judgment and egomania by letting her family go bankrupt and state affairs idle all so she could keep her job. Disgusting. Party hacks.
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