I sure am glad we've got people around here to straighten us out about these things.
Posted on 10/01/2011 3:37:24 PM PDT by JOHN W K
Maybe it’s time to listen to Cain...just a little closer. You want to trust him?? Not me....
If you eliminate the whopping earned income tax refund checks, eliminate all loopholes for the wealthy, begin to receive taxes on those working under the table... YOU FLATTEN THE TAX. The amount if new revenue would be astounding. The rest of us at. 20-36 percent would now pay 9. And that is only in what we buy not what we earn
If you eliminate the whopping earned income tax refund checks, eliminate all loopholes for the wealthy, begin to receive taxes on those working under the table... YOU FLATTEN THE TAX. The amount if new revenue would be astounding. The rest of us at. 20-36 percent would now pay 9. And that is only in what we buy not what we earn
I do listen to him, and very closely!
Cain sold his soul when joining the Federal Reserve, and now he is doing their bidding for a national sales tax on top of corporate taxes and on top of income taxes, including taxes on the wages of labor, all of which are needed to feed the beast in Washington.
JWK
I heard a breakdown of how this 999 thing works and boy is that a wolf in sheeps clothing.
You are exactly right.
Hit’s the middle class right between the eyes.
I’m with you. Not enamored with Cain’s exact plan but I trust him a whole hell of a lot more than most of the candidates.
When it comes right down to it the spending is the root of the problem. Cain’s plan combined with Bachmann’s spending cuts could be a real winner.
I like Herman Cain, And I like the way he understands the numbers BUT..
He is going to have hell trying to pass the 9 9 9 plan
People will bitch at the bottom over 9% sales tax.(you screwin the poor)
People will bitch in the middle about 9% tax on homes and automobiles (you screwin the middle class)
And here is the clincher.. The IRS and all the other weenies that make a living off of a convoluted tax plan will never let it fly (You screwin my cushy empire)
Mr. Cain's proposal may or may not be the answer but at least has ideas and has the guts to let us know what they are.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 1:
The Congress shall have power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises...but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States...
You're confusing excise taxes (e.g. sales taxes) with direct taxes (e.g. income taxes). Direct taxes were indeed originally required to be equal, to prevent unequal taxation on individuals. That was eliminated with the 16th amendment with respect to income taxes.
Excise taxes (in this case sales taxes) must be uniform, so Federal law can't require a 10% national sales tax rate in FL and a 5% national sales tax rate in CA.
I don’t like his 999 plan one bit. It instantly makes the poorest peoples buying power worse. The people who have the least will be hurt the most by it.
What’s so conservative about that?
(I’ll be ignoring any and all flames on this thread)
What a bunch of morons!
Cain is trying to get us toward a flat tax and thinks his 9-9-9 plan is one step towards that.
I guess this is what Cain gets for actually taking a position on something. He should be like Romney and just attack everyone else without putting up ideas.
If you people keep picking at every little detail when something is proposed, Romney will be our nominee.
I think you coined a good term FOR WHAT WE ARE LIVING UNDER TODAY. “An EVIL democracy. Well at least the evil part was right.
the current tax code allows the rich to avoid taxes and the poor pay nine. Who the he.ll do you think is paying????? THE MIDDLE CLASS and we are tapped out!
I think you coined a good term FOR WHAT WE ARE LIVING UNDER TODAY. “An EVIL democracy. Well at least the evil part was right.
the current tax code allows the rich to avoid taxes and the poor pay nine. Who the he.ll do you think is paying????? THE MIDDLE CLASS and we are tapped out!
Thank you. :)
Yes, those of us who attended RPOF Presidency V as voting delegates were all Republicans. It was a Republican event, Einstein. It wasn't a Libertarian, Green Party or Communist Workers Party event.
Yes, the delegates in my county were hand selected. Names of people who applied to be voting delegates were pulled out of a hat. This required the use of a human limb with fingers and an opposable thumb. Delegate applicants were required to be present for the lottery drawing. Then we were required to pay the admittance fee immediately.
As for Herman Cain's 9-9-9 tax plan, I heard last night that used items including homes and vehicles would be exempt from the tax. I am eager to learn more about the plan. When I have questions, I plan to ask them.
Nice to know you are fine with continuing the progressive income tax system and high corporate taxes. By the way, when did you skip the gross versus net class?
I also take it you really hate the fair tax?
Cain’s system seems a logical step to implement either a fair tax system in incremental steps.
If businesses expand, more people will have jobs and we’ll have...
... less poor people.
Just throwing that out there.
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