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Israel Matzav ^ | 10/1/11 | Carl in Jerusalem

Posted on 10/01/2011 11:37:36 PM PDT by Nachum

Caroline Glick reports that American Jews cannot tell their friends from their enemies.

According to a Gallup poll released last month, 80% of American Jews have favorable views of American Muslims. Seventy percent believe that they are not supportive of al-Qaida. These data indicate that American Jews are second only to American Muslims in their support for Muslim Americans. Indeed 6% more American Jews than American Muslims believe that American Muslims face prejudice due to their religion.

American Jewish championing of American Muslims is disconcerting when compared with American Jewish treatment of the philo-Semitic Evangelical Christians. Matthew Knee discussed this issue in depth in a recent article published at the Legal Insurrection website.

In a 2003 Pew survey, 42% of American Jews expressed antagonism towards Evangelical Christians. In a 2004 American National Election Study, Jews on average rated Evangelical Christians at 30 out of 100 on a "feeling thermometer," where 1 was cold and 100 was hot.

A 2005 American Jewish Committee survey found that Jews assessed that following Muslims, Evangelical Christians have the highest propensity for being anti-Semites. And yet, in the same 2004 American National Election Survey, Evangelical Christians rated Jews an average of 82 on the 1- 100 feelings scale. Evangelical Christians rated Catholics at 80.

(Excerpt) Read more at israelmatzav.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Religion
KEYWORDS: american; fools; jewish

1 posted on 10/01/2011 11:37:39 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum
According to a Gallup poll released last month, 80% of American Jews have favorable views of American Muslims.

I'd wager that a fat percentage of that 80% told the pollster what they thought the latter wanted to hear out of a fear of being perceived as racists/bigots.

2 posted on 10/01/2011 11:44:03 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Nachum; All

All the while, 90% of the [Arab-Muslim] Middle East is anti-Jewish-racists! [PEW poll].


3 posted on 10/01/2011 11:46:22 PM PDT by PRePublic (9)
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To: Mr. Mojo

“I’d wager that a fat percentage of that 80% told the pollster what they thought the latter wanted to hear out of a fear of being perceived as racists/bigots. “

Sadly, imho, more of them have internalized it.


4 posted on 10/02/2011 1:52:30 AM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
I am not so sure. What did Norman Podhoretz say?

If the Jews are the Democratic Party at prayer, then the feminists are the Democratic Party in drag.

Someone better get through to the heads of my co religionists that Ted Kennedy style liberalism is not the Jewish religion.

How do my liberal brethren square Judaism's view of homosexuality with Leviticus 18:22 with their liberal ethos supporting gay marriage?

5 posted on 10/02/2011 1:58:23 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Yehuda
It is the Orthodox Jews that have the better grasp of political reality than the Reform. For instance, Brian Camenker, publisher of Mass Resistance has suffered a great deal for telling the truth about homosexual brainwashing in the Massachusetts's schools.
6 posted on 10/02/2011 2:12:10 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Nachum

I’m a mostly secular, mostly non-practicing Jew. I’ll be all for the Muzzies when I quit reading stuff all over the internet about how they want to either drive all Jews into the sea or behead them, and about how they are going to establish a world caliphate. When they finally learn how to tolerate other religions, then come back and ask me what I think of Muslims.


7 posted on 10/02/2011 3:14:38 AM PDT by pbmaltzman
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To: Yehuda

“Sadly, imho, more of them have internalized it.”

“Offen Juden” mentality.


8 posted on 10/02/2011 3:39:56 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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To: GladesGuru

Hence the term—’self-hating Jew’.


9 posted on 10/02/2011 5:26:57 AM PDT by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voters--let our dead rest in peace.)
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To: Stepan12
How do my liberal brethren square Judaism's view of homosexuality with Leviticus 18:22 with their liberal ethos supporting gay marriage?

Even if they knew of that particular verse from Leviticus (which is highly doubtful), they wouldn't give a rip. Remember, we're talking about liberal Jews now -- Jews who dismiss the Bible as mythology.

10 posted on 10/02/2011 8:58:10 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: GladesGuru

Sorry, but I find that phrase revolting.

It’s unfair to compare sheeple who discovered too late that the showers were gas chambers or who later were so starved they had no chance for resistance, with those who actively embrace America and Israel’s enemies.

The latter are kapos, but imho, your phrase (which I only find is used here on FR) is too ambiguous, as in “Jews who are only good for the”...

(what would you call similar Christians?).


11 posted on 10/02/2011 10:06:20 AM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

..................

12 posted on 10/02/2011 4:02:44 PM PDT by SJackson (The irony is, the reason I was in this office is because I told a story to the American people, BHO)
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To: Flintlock
I am not a Jew, but I do NOT understand this almost pathological paranoia about Christians, especially Evangelicals, among American Jews. American Christians don't want to exterminate Jews or drive them into the sea, either in Israel or the United States. In fact, Christians — including the “evil” Evangelicals — are the best friends Israel has.

What kind of Jew is nuts enough to find common cause with Muslims who'd just as soon destroy Israel (and the United States) and murder American Jews by millions. In fact, Muslims are equal opportunity mass murderers that would kill Jews, Christians, Secular Humanists, Atheists, or any other faith (or non-faith) in the name of Allah. Why are American Jews completely blind and deaf to this very real threat?

I don't understand how a people so persecuted could throw their lot with that most evil and racist and antisemitic organization called the Democratic Party. Oy Veh.

13 posted on 10/02/2011 5:16:56 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: Yehuda

The term refers to the mentality of those who would willingly embrace, or at least tolerate or rationalizey the motives of those who are dedicated to killing them.

As for the German Jews, Neumonon’s post eloquently stated, when they come for you, kill them until finally they kill you. While German Jews were disarmed, a bit of liquid fuel can be made into a Molotov cocktail, or at least they could have gotten together with the rest being rounded up and charge the Nazi’s with knives or clubs.

It worked on a certain flight which developed a terminal case of Sudden Jihadi Syndrome.


14 posted on 10/02/2011 8:49:42 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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To: GladesGuru

“The term refers to the mentality of those who would willingly embrace, or at least tolerate or rationalizey the motives of those who are dedicated to killing them.”

The majority of the Jews who went to the ovens did not

“willingly embrace, or at least tolerate or rationalizey the motives of those who are dedicated to killing them.”

thus your use of the phrase is illogical as well as gross and distasteful.

“As for the German Jews, Neumonon’s post”

? There is no “Neumonon” on this thread.

” eloquently stated, when they come for you, kill them until finally they kill you. While German Jews were disarmed, a bit of liquid fuel can be made into a Molotov cocktail, or at least they could have gotten together with the rest being rounded up and charge the Nazi’s with knives or clubs.”

You’re right, that makes them “oven Jews”...

/shakes head and vomits on your “logic”.

It worked on a certain flight which developed a terminal case of Sudden Jihadi Syndrome.


15 posted on 10/03/2011 12:01:13 PM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: pbmaltzman
When they finally learn how to tolerate other religions, then come back and ask me what I think of Muslims.

From this Jewish perspective, amen!

16 posted on 10/03/2011 7:21:56 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Yehuda

My apologies if you are unhappy with my observations. However, the facts are that until the Warsaw Ghetto was nearly emptied of Jews, no real armed resistance to the Nazis occurred.

As for Neumonon, I suggested looking him up for the clarity and quality of his writing, even though he is not on this thread. As for the rest of your post, I am beginning to realize you are unwilling to, or unable to, address the sad fact that millions went to their deaths without a fight.

Neumonon warned of the moral, ethical, and political wrongness of such failure to invoke the Natural Law of self defense.

As for your “vomits on your logic” phrase, may I suggest increasing your reading comprehension skills and possibly considering a visit to your Internal Medicine specialist.

;-)

Humor aside, let’s return to your post and the issue of acceptance of socialism and its 100,000,000 deaths.

The survivors of socialism gone bad under the Third reich, those who avoided the ovens thanks to American intervention, went to Israel and founded a socialist system.

Evidently, the Jewish confusion of “socialism” with the Mosaic Law call for a “just society” continued even after the Jewsih suffering under Germany and National Socialism.

As an American, I find the German Jewish unwillingness to fight to be related to the Libtard desire for “peace” and to the generally recognized Libtard willingness to rely on others to defend them.

I am at a loss to explain the above, and can only wonder how people could not defend themselves.


17 posted on 10/03/2011 8:18:04 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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To: Stepan12

They know nothing of Judaism, other than a lox. Every once and a while, I wish leftist Jews had been deported to Birobaizhan, the Yiddish Soviet Oblast.


18 posted on 10/04/2011 12:19:12 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: MasterGunner01
I am not a Jew, but I do NOT understand this almost pathological paranoia about Christians, especially Evangelicals, among American Jews.
1. Grievance politics.*
2. They don't know the difference between Evangelical Christians in the US and the Orthodox Christians taking orders from the Czars. (No offense to Orthodox Christians in the US or Europe today.) Liberal Jews tend to no little about Judaism and virtually nothing about Christianity.
3. Oikophobia as the state religion among the ersatz educated classes.

* Grievance politics unites disparate minorities in unthinking opposition to the majority, even against rational self interest. The politics of grievance is an unthinking ersatz ethnic loyalty, wherein one defines oneself in opposition, rather than in being. It leads Jews to support political correctness, immigration of Muslims, and Third Worldism, even though these are all against their rational self interest as an Americans or as a Jews. It leads Scottish, Welsh, and Irish nationalists in the UK to endorse immigration. It leads black leaders to support immigration, liberal social politics, and objectively failing education and social models. And this doesn't just apply to minorities in the West. Grievence politics in the form of anti-colonialism allows the South African regime to support Mugabe's starvation of fellow Africans in the once prosperous Zimbabwe. At its core, grievance politics is adolescent behavior. It is a mixture of finding virtue in being oppressed or having been oppressed, certitude in current virtue, a desire for unquestioned compensation and revenge.

What kind of Jew is nuts enough to find common cause with Muslims who'd just as soon destroy Israel (and the United States) and murder American Jews by millions. In fact, Muslims are equal opportunity mass murderers that would kill Jews, Christians, Secular Humanists, Atheists, or any other faith (or non-faith) in the name of Allah. Why are American Jews completely blind and deaf to this very real threat?
A willfully blind "Jew" who defines Judaism as liberalism, (IE an idolitor) or a derascinated leftist of Jewish descent.

19 posted on 10/04/2011 12:35:37 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: GladesGuru

“I am beginning to realize you are unwilling to, or unable to, address the sad fact that millions went to their deaths without a fight.”

GFY. I address it by doing what I can financially and socially, to make sure that more American Jews LEARN HOW TO USE GUNS AND THAT THEY VOTE CONSERVATIVE.

What the hell ARE YOU DOING except running your mouth about “oven Jews”?

“Humor aside, let’s return to your post and the issue of acceptance of socialism and its 100,000,000 deaths.:”

Don’t put words in my mouth, it’s a tactic of the Left. I never said I accepted socialism, and AS A BORN & BRED AMERICAN I will fight islamo-marxism every day till my last breath.

“The survivors of socialism gone bad under the Third reich, those who avoided the ovens thanks to American intervention, went to Israel and founded a socialist system.”

You obviously are unread on the years before, during and after the founding of the modern state of Israel; Israel was on it’s way to socialism WAY before Jews left the interment camps in post war Europe, (look up “New Yishuv” and “1rst and 2nd Aliyahs”). and most of those Jews who did successfully emigrate to Israel from postwar Europe were not instrumental in making Israel more or less socialist in the ensuing post war years. If they voted Labor it was to get help getting started in life (they came with NOTHING) and/or “to get along” with the dominant political party at the time.

“Evidently, the Jewish confusion of “socialism” with the Mosaic Law call for a “just society” continued even after the Jewsih suffering under Germany and National Socialism.”

What are you, some ex-Nazi trying to sound JEW-FRIENDLY, but still confused about “TALMUD = socialism”?

Are you related to that other cockroach stuck on that meme MJP (YOU look him up here, since you are too lazy to provide links to numbnuts or whoever you are quoting earlier).

“Mosaic Law” has NOTHING to do with socialism. REJECTION of Mosaic law leads to socialism. Get your head out of the stormfront ass.

“As an American, I find the German Jewish unwillingness to fight to be related to the Libtard desire for “peace” and to the generally recognized Libtard willingness to rely on others to defend them.”

As an American I find your comments disgusting and ignorant:

“German Jewish unwillingness to fight”

German Jews in Nazi Germany didn’t fight back because at the beginning they COULDN’T BELIEVE their GERMAN GENTILE NEIGHBORS would turn against them; German Jews had served in the army, etc.

IOW. German Jews mostly identified as GERMANS, not Jews.

By the time those who hadn’t already left (NOT MADE EASIER BY THE U.S. or Britain) realized what was happening, IT WAS TOO LATE, they were disarmed, and rounded up.

“I am at a loss to explain the above, and can only wonder how people could not defend themselves.”

THEY WERE DISARMED. You should be MORE AT A LOSS AS TO HOW SO MANY SO-CALLED “CHRISTIAN” Germans did NOTHING.

Do you think it was because THEY TOO WERE FRIGHTENED AND DISARMED?

You need to do some serious reading.

try these:

http://www.amazon.com/History-Jews-Paul-Johnson/dp/0060915331

http://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Willing-Executioners-Ordinary-Holocaust/dp/0679772685

http://www.amazon.com/Soaring-Underground-Compass-Press/dp/0929590155

http://www.amazon.com/Jews-God-History-50th-Anniversary/dp/0451529405/ref=pd_cp_b_2

http://www.amazon.com/Begin-Biography-Eric-Silver/dp/0297783998/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1317713456&sr=8-9

Get them from the library if you have to, but do yourself a favor and read them before you embarrass yourself further.


20 posted on 10/04/2011 12:45:37 AM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: rmlew
At least they need the rhetorical equivalent of cold water splashed in their faces -- as Ann Coulter does with our rotten culture.

I don't care this time if what I say sounds like self hatred. When one is wrong one should be called to account for it. The German idea of Marxism doesn't work. The German idea of Bismarck's deceitful welfare state does not work either (look at Europe).

Bismarck conceived the idea of the welfare state to take with wind out of the sales of the labor unions -- not to help the poor. When Bismarck proposed his idea of Social Security, most people lived to about 45 -- not 65 which is the age when Social Security kicks in.

21 posted on 10/04/2011 3:10:09 AM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: rmlew
Grievance politics unites disparate minorities in unthinking opposition to the majority, even against rational self interest. The politics of grievance is an unthinking ersatz ethnic loyalty, wherein one defines oneself in opposition, rather than in being.

I've never experienced 'grievance politics' on a personal level - it's seems unreal - like a person trying to explain the feelings of a person afraid of the color 'blue' or print wallpaper. Weird.

I believe you, rmlew - what you're saying has a ring of truth to it. And it might explain what liberals are doing by portraying conservatives as 'the other'. Elite liberals spend as much time trying to get their people to hate and fear us as they do working to solve any problems. Fast and Furious might fall into a grievance politics paradigm. The rabid hatred of Sarah Palin - and the Tea Party - could be the same.

It's powerful because - being based in raw emotion, similar to the emotions of an angry teenager - it bypasses adult rational thinking processes.

It's might be why Jews back Muslims who hate them - and part of the reason Germans became evil in the 1940's.

What an interesting concept - thanks for sharing.

22 posted on 10/04/2011 7:57:12 AM PDT by GOPJ (Bibi would go toe to toe with the devil if it was the only way to save his beloved Israel.)
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