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Tea Partiers Want A New Dollar Coin And Refuse To Listen To The Free Market In The Process (?)
Capital Gains And Games ^ | September 28, 2011 | Stan Collender

Posted on 10/02/2011 5:09:33 AM PDT by danielmryan

Over at TPM, Ryan Reilly has an intriguing post about the interest of some tea partiers for a new circulating dollar coin because it supposedly will save the federal government money.  This follows a story in the Huffington Post from a week ago about how Rep. David Schweikert (R-AZ) introduced a bill that would eliminate the dollar bill and substitute dollar coins.

Here's some very personal and U.S. history about the dollar coin and why this is a terrible idea that is really nothing more than a corporate subsidy.

Congress in the late 1990s mandated that the U.S. Mint create a new circulating (rather than a collectible) dollar coin.  This eventually became known as the "golden dollar" because of its color.  It was also often referred to as the Sacagawea dollar because of the image of the native American woman on the coin.

I not only worked for the consultant hired by the Mint to increase consumer awareness of the golden dollar so that it was more likely to be used, I led the team.  And from that perspective -- consumer awareness -- the coin was a huge success.  Positive awareness of the coin reached 85 percent within three months and the demand for it was so great that there were block-long lines around many of the Wal-Marts where it was first available.

But in spite of the consumer demand, the golden dollar was a huge flop.  Why?  The problem was that consumers wanted but couldn't get it. 

Banks initially refused to carry it because they said they already had a large supply of previously issued dollar coins like the almost universally reviled Susan B. Anthony and didn't want or need any more.  Even worse, they couldn't or wouldn't guarantee that you would get all or mostly golden dollars if you asked for a roll of them in a bank.  You got what they had...period...and that usually was Susan Bs.

But it was worse with retail outlets.  What Congress didn't realize or care about when it authorized the golden dollar was that it costs businesses more to get coins than bills because they're heavier and the delivery charges from Brinks or some other armored carrier are higher.  Plus, you had to order dollar coins in bags of 2000, which is way more than most retailers need and want to keep in their safes.  Because consumers ultimately didn't care whether they got a dollar bill or dollar coin  when they made a purchase, businesses saw no reason to pay extra to have the coins delivered or to take the extra risk of having them in their safes.  Ultimately, therefore, they didn't order them and you didn't get one in change.

But the most infuriating situation of all was the vending machine operators who had actually been among the golden dollars strongest proponents and had lobbied hard for the legislation that required it be produced.  The reason was that the dollar bill acceptors broke down often on vending machines and the machine owners and opeartors thought that a dollar coin would take care of the problem. 

Because of this, the Mint projected the demand for the coin based in large part on the assumption that vending machines would be converted quickly so that they could accept it.

The problem was that the vending machine operators and owners suddenly realized once the coin was available that it was going to cost them about $50 to retrofit each machine so that it would accept dollar coins...and most flatly refused to spend the money.  They wanted the Mint to pay for the retrofitting, which it wasn't authorized to do.

With banks refusing to order the golden dollar in big numbers or distribute them exclusively when they had them, retailers refusing to order them because of the additional cost, consumer wanting them but having a substitute -- the bill -- that they liked at least as much, and vending machine owners refusing to get in the game, the golden dollar died the same ignominious death as the Susan B. Anthony.

In theory, a dollar coin absolutely saves taxpayers money compared to a dollar bill.  When the golden dollar was released in early 2000, it cost the government about 12 cents to make and it was expected to last about 30 years before it had to be removed from circulation because of normal wear.  Each dollar bill cost much less -- about 4 cents -- but most bills only remain in circulation for a short time because they deteriorate so quickly.  That means that the savings over 30 years are significant: it cost 12 cents to have a dollar coin but 80 cents to have a dollar bill.  So from a budget perspective, changing to a dollar coin makes a great deal of sense and having a bill instead could be included in the waste-fraud-and-abuse category that most taxpayers demand be cut.

But...and it's a big but...rather than save money, a dollar coin actually costs the government and taxpayers a great deal if it's not going to be used.  The government will still have to manufacture bills to meet the demand and mint coins that few will ever use to meet the legislative mandate.  Pure and simple...creating a new dollar coin will be the equivalent of building a new highway right next to one that already exists and is working just fine.

As was the case with the golden dollar, what's really going on here is that companies in Arizona that mine the raw materials the Mint will need to make a new dollar coin want to sell them to the federal government.  As Reilly points out in his TPM piece, those that sell the paper the Bureau of Engraving and Printing uses for the dollar bill don't want to lose that very large and lucrative market so John Kerry (D-MA), the senator from the state where the largest of these companies is located, has introduced competing legislation to derail Schweikert's dollar coin bill.

Meanwhile, there's ample evidence that the market has repeatedly rejected the dollar coin.  I know from personal experience that consumers truly don't care whether they get a bill or a coin in change.  Retailers won't order them (FYI...We only got Wal-Mart to carry them by having the Mint direct-ship the golden dollars to each store at no charge) and banks don't want them.

It's more than just amusing that a number of tea partiers -- who profess to being so close to their constituents and are the champions of free market economics -- are taking up this cause when the evidence is so one-sided and incontrovertible.  Add to history the fact that consumers these days are increasingly using credit and debit cards for small purchases and, therefore, the need for currency in general and dollar bills or coins is likely to continue to fall, and you have to wonder why other than providing new corporate welfare this is even an issue again.

(FYI...We did a number of very high-profile and award-winning television commercials for the golden dollar.  This was my favorite (embeding isn't working, sorry).  It was directed by Bob Giraldi, who up to that time was best known for directing Michael Jackson music videos, and the voice of George Washington was Michael Keaton....)


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: coins; dollarbill; goldendollar; onedollarcoin; usmint
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I know the COINS Act was sponsored by two Republicans, and one of the two co-sponsors of the competing protect-the-dollar-bill legislation is none other than Lurch, but Mr. Collender sounds like one of those who thinks the Tea Party is one monolithic mass.

I've read comments by non-Tea Partiers who want the dollar coin: they tend to be liberals. They think that FedGov made a mistake by not yanking the dollar bill when the coin was introduced - i.e., "nudging" the public into accepting the coin. Strange bedfellows for the "Tea Party."

1 posted on 10/02/2011 5:09:36 AM PDT by danielmryan
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To: danielmryan

A coin is about the last thing on the mind of this tea partier.


2 posted on 10/02/2011 5:15:38 AM PDT by cripplecreek (MLB Playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2786167/posts)
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To: cripplecreek

Yeah, I’d put it about #38999 on my priority list.


3 posted on 10/02/2011 5:22:55 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: danielmryan

I prefer the dollar coin over the paper bill, and I not a liberal. I too favor pulling the dollar bill from circulation, at least stop printing them.
I dislike having to pull my wallet out for a dollar. What can a dollar buy these days? It belongs with the other pocket change.


4 posted on 10/02/2011 5:29:47 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: danielmryan
is none other than Lurch,

Wanna take a guess where Crane & Co., the company that manufactures the "paper" for the Bureau of Printing and Engraving, is located?

5 posted on 10/02/2011 5:34:37 AM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: cripplecreek

Golden Dollar? There’s no gold in it.

It looks more like a Urine Dollar.


6 posted on 10/02/2011 5:43:25 AM PDT by Surrounded_too
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To: danielmryan

This may sound petty but I want a president on my dollar coin. The dollar coin should not be a feminist manifesto.

Put Reagan on the front, the stealth bomber on the back and stop printing $1 bills. Vending machine operators will retrofit their machines, it will be the cost of doing business, after all they paid for the more expensive bill readers when they jacked the price of a Coke over a buck.

The only people this will really hurt will be the chiropractors. The won’t be seeing all of the men with backs out of place from sitting on wallets crammed with nearly useless $1 bills.


7 posted on 10/02/2011 5:45:25 AM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: danielmryan
I've read comments by non-Tea Partiers who want the dollar coin: they tend to be liberals. .

I don't know why that would be true. Considering that the dollar buys now what a quarter did in 1975, a coin makes some good sense. I can't see anything "liberal" or "conservative" about it.

Now, if you want to speculate why the dollar's worth a quarter, we can talk liberalism.

8 posted on 10/02/2011 5:47:30 AM PDT by BfloGuy (Given enough time, the primary function of any bureaucracy becomes the employment of its employees.)
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To: danielmryan
Refuse To Listen To The Free Market In The Process

WTF? How is the market (which is hardly free) come into play here?

Presume the last legitimate dollar was .07752 oz. fine silver. A dollar bill is now worth less than five cents.

By the same reasoning, the smallest circulating currency should be the $20, with coins for $1, $5, and $10.

Of course, there is going to have to be a dollar revaluation at some point, so the "new dollar" will be worth somewhere in the range of $50-$100 old dollars, which will restore the usefulness of the dollar bill.

Preserving the existing dollar bill as a monument to a time when things made sense is just stupid romanticism.

9 posted on 10/02/2011 5:47:41 AM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: danielmryan

Another case of liberals making stuff up about us. The straw man tactic.


10 posted on 10/02/2011 5:49:12 AM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: 9YearLurker

Me too.

As far as coins go. I don’t like carrying coins. I don’t like the weight in my pockets. And I do like the ability of my ATM card to only deduct from my account exactly what I spend.


11 posted on 10/02/2011 5:56:14 AM PDT by The Working Man (The mantra for BO's reign...."No Child Left a Dime")
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To: R. Scott

I’m with you on this one.


12 posted on 10/02/2011 5:57:35 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: 9YearLurker
I’d put it about #38999 on my priority list.
That's about where it is on my list. Any "lawmaker" who spends his/her time on this should be fired for incompetence.

We've got real problems to solve, like repealing ObamaCare and defunding the EPA.

We don't need no stinking new coin.

13 posted on 10/02/2011 5:58:54 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: dangerdoc

This may sound petty but I want a president on my dollar coin.

Yeah, like Jackson.


14 posted on 10/02/2011 5:58:58 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: danielmryan

I can’t resist this but here is my solution 2nd essay after solving unemployment problem...Obama Reduces Natl Debt
http://www.theusmat.com/natldesksatire.htm


15 posted on 10/02/2011 6:04:21 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (To punish a province let it be ruled by a professor Fredrick The Great paraphrased)
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To: cripplecreek

I want my paper money to hold its value, not another coin to wear a hole in my pocket.


16 posted on 10/02/2011 6:06:04 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: danielmryan

What does the story have to do with the Tea Party, other than the title? Except for the next to last paragraph and the title, the Tea Party isn’t even mentioned in the article.


17 posted on 10/02/2011 6:08:16 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: danielmryan

After years of trying to trying to downplay what many had considered one of the United States’ greatest coinage failures, the U.S. Treasury Department on Oct. 21, 1997, did an about face. In testimony before the House Banking Subcommittee on Domestic and International Monetary Policy Nancy Killefer, assistant secretary for management and chief financial officer of the Treasury Department, for the first time in more than 17 years went on record encouraging production of a new circulating small-sized dollar coin to replace the Anthony dollar.

For more than a decade, the Dollar Coin Coalition – a lobbying group supported by the vending machine and mining industries – had tried to bring about circulation of the small-sized dollar coin by forcing withdrawal of the $1 Federal Reserve note. Most government and private studies, both in the United States and abroad, had determined that a dollar coin would not gain full acceptance if a $1 note remained in circulation.

Once placed in circulation, Diehl said an extensive four-month public awareness blitz would be waged via print, radio and television outlets to educate the public about using the new dollar coin.

Despite all of the Mint’s efforts to entice use and circulation of the Sacagawea dollar coin, two years after its release, few Americans had ever encountered one in circulation. In 2002 the Mint curtailed production of circulation-quality Sacagawea dollars and began producing them only for collector products.

http://www.coinworld.com/sacagawea-dollar/

I think dollar coins are more trouble than they’re worth. Seems most people don’t like them and won’t use them.


18 posted on 10/02/2011 6:08:28 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: danielmryan
The problem was that consumers wanted but couldn't get it.

Yeah, sure, that was the problem.

19 posted on 10/02/2011 6:14:54 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: freedomfiter2
This may sound petty but I want a president on my dollar coin. Yeah, like Jackson.

No problemo.


20 posted on 10/02/2011 6:15:56 AM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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