Posted on 10/04/2011 10:58:48 AM PDT by bullypulpit
Perry supports a strong military defense, lower taxes and less spending, limited govt, tax-tort-regulation and entitlement reform... he’s pro-life, pro-gun, pro-traditional marriage, pro-family and pro-Constitution. Perry also wants the borders secured by the Feds and he opposes blanket amnesty. Perry's less then ideal immigration stance doesn't disqualify him to be the GOP nominee or potus. He’s been elected Governor of Texas three times and has a solid conservative governing record. Perry has worked hard to keep his state competitive in creating jobs, keeping taxes low and restrains on spending. Along with serious tort reform and reductions in regulations.
A good record from a good conservative.
I never said he was disqualified from being POTUS. He is simply not going to get my vote.
His stands are meaningless. I don’t trust him to tell me what his real positions are. Has he lowered spending? no. Has he lowered taxes? he simply shifted them around. He’s pro-life, apparently but he isn’t very actively so.
I wish he supported individual rights instead of states right, I have no allegiance to a state.
NavyCanDo— agreed. There’s a ton of pressure for him to perform at the debate. Like someone else said in this thread, the Republicans want a real winner, not someone who has just a shot at beating Obama, but someone who will defeat Obama, guaranteed.
Joe
Which of the candidates is, in your opinion?
"heartless" is sissy whining just the same.
Good analysis. I think he’d be more at ease in debates, and certainly more passionate, if a core set of conservative values fired him up. I myself am a nervous, reticent public speaker. However, if I get a chance to talk about the things that most animate and drive me, I find a sudden eloquence and fluency. I find it hard to believe it wouldn’t be the same w Perry.
Are you dense?
“Heartless” simply shows that he is not a real conservative, his instincts are not conservative. It isn’t the word he used, it’s the thought process behind it.
You really don’t get that?
If the GOP blows this one America will be up crap creek without a paddle. This is the most important Presidential election since 1980. If the GOP establishment gets their way and is successful handing Romney the nomination, we will see Obama sitting in the WH for another 4 years. I don’t want to see that happen.
You don’t get elected Governor 3x, in the most conservative state in the union and NOT be a solid conservative.
Lots of folks don’t like Perry. He is not my personal favorite either. I only had one candidate who stood above everyone else. Like many around FR, sounds to me like you hold a personal grudge againt Perry.
Do you think George W Bush was a solid conservative?
he wasn’t.
Texas has never had a solid conservative as Governor.
RE: In fact he was a Democrat all his life until recently. He switched parties to defeat Jim Hightower in the 1990 election for Texas Ag Commissioner. He;s been a Republican for 22 years, more time in the seat as a Republican when he started his presidential campaign than Ronald Reagan had. Details.
And, he actually supported Al Gore. Yeah, he supported Al Gore in 1988 before Al invented the internet and global warming. Details on Al Gore and Rick Perry
But, more than that, they tell me in Texas that his reputation is one of corruption and cronyism, And the politicians are perfect in Massachusetts. They never make deals or select their friends and supporters for important commissions and such. In fact, [sarcasm] I heard that Mitt Romney only appointed gay left wing progressive activists to his boards and commissions.[/sarcasm] Well, that may not be untrue. Look at why Romney may not be electable either.
But after hearing what the people in Texas say about him.... I am Texas. You never asked me. I cannot change your mind. So, since Rick Perry declared this month Texas Music Month, all I can do is leave you with a song, by Texas music artist Wade Bowen.
No one knows that there’s more,
Beyond these dead skies and these filthy streets.
Take my hand and let me pull you,
Out of the blindness of your weary soul,
To somewhere beautiful.
To somewhere beautiful.
Hear the entire song "Somewhere Beautiful" here. I bet your Texas friends didn't tell you about the great music down here!
“I have no allegiance to a state.”
Then you need to pack your whiney ass up and move. Real Texans DO have an allegiance to their state.
I have yet to see Texas bow down and pray to their government God 5 times a day.
No real conservative has allegiance to a government.
Texas is neither a government nor religion. It’s a state of mind.
If you were a real Texan you’d know that.
So I am not a “real Texan” because I don’t support Perry?
And you are right. I was given inaccurate information in terms of time, about his conversion. After all, it was just bar talk.
To lighten what said a little, I will say, “There are a lot of people in Texas against Perry.”
From what I experienced, the state will not be a given for him. Carry on
“Do you think George W Bush was a solid conservative?
he wasn’t.
Texas has never had a solid conservative as Governor.”
I still think one of the main impediments to Rick Perry is purely cosmetic (kind of like Chris Christie’s weight). Not saying it’s fair, just that it exists, whether fair or not.
People look at Rick Perry and they see a reincarnation of George Bush, and although in retrospect, certain aspects of Bush look mighty good now (like the war on terror), nevertheless, Bush wore his cowboy persona overtly, and so does Perry. Perry talks like Bush, is a RINO like Bush when it comes to the Mexican border and illegal aliens and other matters, has a voice pattern and colloquialisms like Bush, walks and swaggers like Bush. In other words, is way too much like Bush, and you know how disappointed Freepers were with George Bush at the end of his administration. I look at Perry and I see a George Bush clone when it comes to domestic matters. And as Perry has no foreign policy experience at all (with the one exception of his good stance on Israel), I can’t get over the comparison, all other things being equal. It’s his border/illegal alien stance, however, that for me is the Perry being our nominee killer. Can’t get past that one.
Both Bush and Perry were conservative enough to get elected and reelected as Governor. So was a guy named Reagan. Reagan was less conservative as Governor of California but shined as the most conservative President since Calvin Coolidge. Bush43 may not have measured up to Reagan, but he was instinctively conservative on taxes and military matters. Along with being a solid social conservative.
If he gets through this rough patch, Perry will surprise a lot of folks who have written him off. You better hope so. The alternative is Romney and that is unacceptable.
You made the point time and time again that you won't vote for Perry. Everyone knows it.
Now you're getting chastised for being repetitious. Get a clue.
I couldn’t see what Bush did wrong. So he raised the deficit. How the heck was he supposed to replenish a depleted military, get pay raises for our service men and women, deal with the aftermath of 9/11, several natural disaster on the cheap? He did so without raising our taxes. One would only hope that Perry is like George W. Bush.
I think I already said I don’t think Texas is a government at all.
Bush and the GOP Congress didn't govern as fiscal conservatives. Bush spent way too much and the GOP Congress went along. Big annual deficits and $4-trillion added to the debt. Of course that pales in comparison to what Obama has spent. 4x larger annual deficits and more debt in 2-1/2 years then Bush added in 8 years.
I think Perry would govern as a fiscal conservative and reign in spending and regulations. With a GOP Congress on his side Perry would also lower taxes, then work on real entitlement and tax reform. Those policies and rolling back Obamacare would set in motion serious economic growth that would help to create jobs everywhere in America.
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