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Sipsey Street Exclusive: "In at the beginning." The State Department & the Gunwalker Scandal.
sipseystreetirregulars ^ | 10/10/11

Posted on 10/10/2011 2:05:31 PM PDT by Nachum

"Hillary doesn't have to audition for the part of Caesar's wife. She knows when to be out of the room." -- Anonymous State Department source.

Since it has been a few days, readers might want to refresh their memories by revisiting "In at the beginning." The State Department & the Gunwalker Scandal. Part 2. The 90% Myth. "I have not backed off" an AWB. The last four paragraphs:

My sources say that this battle of the "statistics" was taken very seriously by all players -- the White House, State and Justice. Yet, WHY was this game of statistics so important to the players? If some weapons from the American civilian market were making it to Mexico into the hand of drug gang killers that was bad enough. What was the importance of insisting that it was 90 percent, 80 percent, or finally 70 percent? Would such statistics make any difference to the law enforcement tactics necessary to curtail them? No.

This statistics mania is similar to the focus on "body counts" in Vietnam. Yet if Vietnam body counts were supposed to be a measure of how we were winning that war, the focus on the 90 percent meme was certainly not designed to be a measure of how we were winning the war against arming the cartels, but rather by what overwhelming standard we were LOSING. Why?

(Excerpt) Read more at sipseystreetirregulars.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; cia; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; hillary; hillaryglobalist; holder; ice; internationaltreaty; mexican; nwo; obama; openborders; soros; statedept; unagenda; unarmstreaty
Ah, should have known. This makes so much more sense. Murder incorporated, gun running, and setting the Obama regime for a fall. It is so much more the Clinton Arkansas mafia than the Chicago Daley mob. Shades of Mena, Arkansas and dead bodies everywhere.

Full title: Sipsey Street Exclusive: "In at the beginning." The State Department & the Gunwalker Scandal. Part 3. "Caesar's Wife" and the "Mexican hat dance."

1 posted on 10/10/2011 2:05:35 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 10/10/2011 2:07:39 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
The question is; were there any fed agencies that weren't involved?

— has sources claiming “Obama’s man in the State Department,” (former) Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg, was the State Department operative who helped Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and the Department of Justice Deputy Attorney General David Ogden formulate the strategy that led to the tactics used in Operation Fast and Furious.

Steinberg took office as Deputy Secretary of State on January 28, 2009

A little more than two years later, it was announced that Steinberg's time in the Obama State Department was over. From the New York Times, 30 March 2011:

Mrs. Clinton heaped praise on Mr. Steinberg, describing him as an “indispensable” partner. “On every foreign policy challenge, big and small, he has helped formulate our policy and oversee its execution,” she wrote. Mr. Steinberg, she said, played “Oscar to Jack Lew’s Felix,” referring to Jacob J. Lew, her other deputy, who left earlier this year to become Mr. Obama’s budget director.

The State Dept. led DHS which led the DOJ which led ATF, the FBI, the DEA, ICE and the USBP but none of the heads of any of those agencies nor the Pres. had any idea what this super-multi-agency operation was about?

More on the architects will be coming out soon I think.

3 posted on 10/10/2011 2:17:13 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Nachum

Shapio and Steinberg better watch their backs!
http://rcjustice.tripod.com/pres.html

Dead Men Don’t Talk

The following is a list of dead people connected with Bill Clinton:

-James McDougal Clinton’s convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

-Vince Foster Former White House councelor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

-Ron Brown Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investi-gation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

-C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

-Paul Tulley Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “Dear friend and trusted advisor”.

-Ed Willey Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

-Jerry Parks Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

-James Bunch Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

-James Wilson Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

-Kathy Ferguson Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May 1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

-Bill Shelton Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of his fiancee.

-Gandy Baugh Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

-Florence Martin Accountant sub-contractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot wounds.

-Suzanne Coleman Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

-Paula Grober Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

-Danny Casolaro Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.

-Paul Wilcher Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

-Jon Parnell Walker Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993 Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

-Barbara Wise Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

-Charles Meissner Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

-Dr. Stanley Heard Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

-Barry Seal Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no accident.

-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.

-Stanley Huggins Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released.

-Hershell Friday Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

-Kevin Ives & Don Henry Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. Controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
- Keith Coney Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck July, 1988.

- Keith McMaskle Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

- Gregory Collins Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

-Jeff Rhodes He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

-James Milan Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.

-Jordan Kettleson Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

-Richard Winters Was a suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. Was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan


4 posted on 10/10/2011 2:19:42 PM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: Munz

Here it is...


5 posted on 10/10/2011 2:22:16 PM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: Nachum

It’s a beautiful thing.

If she is linked in anyway . the democratic party will all but close it’s doors. The socialists will have to bail out of congress and the senate.

Who would really be left as a powerhouse? Schummer? Reid? Pelosi?


6 posted on 10/10/2011 2:23:01 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: WellyP

Wow, maybe explains why there is so much silence about the operation.


7 posted on 10/10/2011 2:28:27 PM PDT by opentalk
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To: WellyP

Arkansas dirt nap!


8 posted on 10/10/2011 2:35:35 PM PDT by elephant
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To: Munz

” The Democratic Party will all but close it’s doors!”

A good wishful thought, but no way will it happen! The Demorat Party thrives on Scandals, Corruption, Decay, Treason and Murder! They will make every attempt to cause Rioting, the Suspension of Elections and Billions of Highjacked “Stimulus Funds” to buy the Votes, Tear the Republicans Apart, and Overthrow America as We LOVE and KNOW HER! SOROS detailed his objectives in a Televised Interview that Glenn Beck aired last year..... remember how Obama was a key player in the Kenyan Riots after his “COUSIN” Lost!
I pray I am wrong and that you are right......:-)


9 posted on 10/10/2011 2:37:49 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: Nachum
There is one other thing those sources agree upon. The CIA, they say, knows "everything" about the "Mexican hat dance" that became the Gunwalker Scandal.

Will Leon Pannetta protect his old friend or let her sink?

Will Hillary start offing 0bungle's people before he offs hers?

Will Eric Holder ever figure out that he was always an expendable front man for The Won?

Tune in next week for another exciting episode of As The Worm Turns!

10 posted on 10/10/2011 2:40:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: brityank

ping


11 posted on 10/10/2011 2:46:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: True Republican Patriot

It is wishful thinking I admit it. (we are all entitled to a bit of it after so long with dear leader taking us up the creek without paddles)

But this is gaining traction now and I don’t think that the democrats have ever overreached this far.

The potential is there for a lot of corruption to be placed rightly on them squarely. No less with gun control issues and playing with taxpayer money, immigration etc. in the worst ways possible.

They could suffer quite a hit here if things continue to go this way. And that you must agree is NOT just wishful thinking.


12 posted on 10/10/2011 2:52:17 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Nachum

“There is one other thing those sources agree upon. The CIA, they say, knows “everything” about the “Mexican hat dance” that became the Gunwalker Scandal.”

Hmmmmm...so will Petraeus protect the CIA or will he leak the truth? Is he already leaking the truth to Issa or does he even know what Panetta,Obama and Hillary were up to before he was sworn in?

This is going to get interesting and dangerous for alot of folks.


13 posted on 10/10/2011 2:59:28 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: Munz

I completely agree with You........... Hopefully, the Rats have walked themselves into a Trap with No Escape! This “FAST and FURIOUS” was clearly the RATS Plan to make J.Q. Public believ that 90-70% of the Assault weapons the Cartels were using were sourced here to force the Retraction of The Second Amendment and the confiscation of Our Firearms, just as Hitler did before his takeover. I still love Ralph Nader’s quotation when he waked out of the Interview with the hew Part Nominee in 2004, LURCH PURPLE HEART TRAITOR KERRY! “Now I know the Democratic Party is Corrupted and Decayed to the Very Top of It’s Highest Leadership!”


14 posted on 10/10/2011 3:05:55 PM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD SAVE OUR AMERICA from ALLAH and his Prophet, HUSSEIN OBAMA!!)
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To: Nachum

I am starting to believe that Sipsey Street Irregulars should get a Pulitzer Prize for this amazing reporting.

It’s amazing cuz they’re nobody.

But....they’re the Drudge of this scandal, clearly.


15 posted on 10/10/2011 3:20:45 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: penelopesire

I find it hard to believe that Petraeus isn’t one of US and much harder to believe that he is one of THEM!


16 posted on 10/10/2011 3:24:07 PM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; FreedomPoster; Josephat; Prince of Space; ...

Sipsey Street Exclusive: “In at the beginning.” Ping


17 posted on 10/10/2011 3:27:24 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: WellyP

You might yet change your mind.


18 posted on 10/10/2011 3:30:05 PM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: WellyP

Me too...that’s why I thought it so strange that Obama appointed him to the CIA to take Panetta’s place and then sent Panetta to take Petraeus’s job. It always seemed so strange. What’s up with that?


19 posted on 10/10/2011 3:43:05 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: WellyP

Interesting list:
Thanks for sharing.

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Dead Men Don’t Talk

The following is a list of dead people connected with Bill Clinton:

-James McDougal Clinton’s convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

-Vince Foster Former White House councelor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

-Ron Brown Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investi-gation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

-C. Victor Raiser II - & - Montgomery Raiser Major players in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

-Paul Tulley Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “Dear friend and trusted advisor”.

-Ed Willey Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

-Jerry Parks Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

-James Bunch Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

-James Wilson Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

-Kathy Ferguson Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson died in May 1994 was found dead in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

-Bill Shelton Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of his fiancee.

-Gandy Baugh Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

-Florence Martin Accountant sub-contractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot wounds.

-Suzanne Coleman Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

-Paula Grober Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

-Danny Casolaro Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.

-Paul Wilcher Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

-Jon Parnell Walker Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993 Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

-Barbara Wise Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

-Charles Meissner Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

-Dr. Stanley Heard Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton’s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.

-Barry Seal Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, Death was no accident.

-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.

-Stanley Huggins Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released.

-Hershell Friday Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

-Kevin Ives & Don Henry Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. Controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
- Keith Coney Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck July, 1988.

- Keith McMaskle Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

- Gregory Collins Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

-Jeff Rhodes He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

-James Milan Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.

-Jordan Kettleson Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

-Richard Winters Was a suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. Was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan


20 posted on 10/10/2011 4:20:56 PM PDT by GOPJ (Where is the headline that says: Obama Murders Hundreds of Mexicans! - freeper xzins)
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To: WellyP; Nachum
Good catch, WellyP. Haven't seen the klintoon 'boot-hill' list for a while ........................... FRegards
21 posted on 10/10/2011 5:35:20 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: gaijin
"...But....they’re the Drudge of this scandal, clearly..."

And Drudge, who used to "Go where the stink was", is strangely silent on this huge story .............................. FRegards

22 posted on 10/10/2011 5:40:10 PM PDT by gonzo ( Buy more ammo, dammit! You should already have the firearms ... FRegards)
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To: gaijin; All
I am starting to believe that Sipsey Street Irregulars should get a Pulitzer Prize for this amazing reporting. It’s amazing cuz they’re nobody. But....they’re the Drudge of this scandal, clearly.

The Pulitzer is much to tarnished and stained with the blood of Ukrainians and the lies of Progessive causes.

We need a new, shiny prize that celebrates the uncovering of truth instead of pushing the Progressive agenda.

23 posted on 10/10/2011 6:34:52 PM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: TigersEye

Very interesting indeed. Hitlery’s filthy with this. And Gestapitano.


24 posted on 10/10/2011 6:37:41 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: WellyP

I had almost forgot.


25 posted on 10/10/2011 6:39:02 PM PDT by MattinNJ (Cain/Gingrich)
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To: Alamo-Girl

Shades of you Downside Legacy


26 posted on 10/10/2011 6:50:49 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: MileHi

you = your

Nuts


27 posted on 10/10/2011 6:55:04 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: little jeremiah

Virtually every top tier fed-agency and their top officials have been to meetings about this but, noooooo, Hillary, Nappy, Eric the Coward and 0bungles never heard a thing about it, right? (phhhhht)


28 posted on 10/10/2011 7:16:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: penelopesire
Petraeus protect the CIA or will he leak the truth? Is he already leaking the truth to Issa or does he even know what Panetta,Obama and Hillary were up to before he was sworn in?

I don't think the General has very fond memories of Hillary
29 posted on 10/10/2011 7:19:48 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: TigersEye

It’s pretty funny when their ONLY defense is “I’m dumber than a bag of dirt”.


30 posted on 10/10/2011 7:38:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: MileHi

Indeed. Thanks for the ping!


31 posted on 10/10/2011 9:50:08 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; All

additional info here on the bigger picture relating to this (U.N. gun control)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2790956/posts


32 posted on 10/10/2011 11:39:06 PM PDT by Watchdog85
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To: Nachum
Now we're getting closer to reality. It has been obvious from the beginning that, if interdiction wasn't the purpose, then the program HAD to serve political ends. To Democrats, there is only one "political purpose": staying in power. There are only two ways to do that, control demography (illegal immigration and welfare brats) and destroy the opposition (take their guns). Hence the twin means of destabilizing Mexico and foisting the Small Arms Treaty.

I wonder how aware Daryl Issa or Sharyl Atkisson are about these DOS connections?

33 posted on 10/11/2011 6:08:55 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Joe Brower; Squantos; hiredhand
Bonk.

DOS is where the action is, because that is who handles the Small Arms Treaty. A treaty is the only legal instrument these thugs can slip through with the power to annul the Second Amendment by its enforcement and interpretation.

34 posted on 10/11/2011 7:32:26 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: neverdem

Forgot to ping you too. Get the DOS firmly within this investigation and it is no longer confined to the DOJ; it goes straight to the White House.


35 posted on 10/11/2011 8:30:14 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Nachum

Yes Sir!

March 2010

“Hillary Clinton: America to Blame for Mexican Gun Deaths”

“Well, it seems as though the apologists are at it again. Our illustrious Sec. of State has now echoed the misleading and in some cases totally false talking point as to the numbers of guns “flooding Mexico from the U.S.”

The unsubtantiated claim first made by president Obama that “More than 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States, many from gun shops that lay in our shared border” repeated by Kristen Rand, the Legislative Director of the Violence Policy Center and then picked up by Mexican president Fellipe Calderon, has now been used by Clinton during her visit to Mexico this week.

That the claim has been proven false, as much that comes from this administration has, makes no difference when the ultimate aim is to disarm and control the citizens of THIS country.

The BATFE has only stated that 90% of the guns traced are from America. BATFE only traces a fraction of the guns seized; those firearms are not selected randomly, but are likely selected because they are the guns most likely to have come from the U.S. Trace data reveals nothing about the large number of guns that are not traced.

Clinton did acknowledge that “Our insatiable demand for illegal drugs fuels the drug trade.” But she added, “Our inability to prevent weapons from being illegally smuggled across the border to arm these criminals causes the death of police officers, soldiers and civilians.

Her statement that “I feel very strongly we have a co-responsibility” is just another example of yet another one of our “leaders” blaming America for the problems that plague another corrupt government and reveals the true intent……gun control...”

http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2010/03/hillary-clinton-america-to-blame-for-mexican-gun-deaths/

6/11

“Latest Clinton/Obama PSYOP: Sell arms to Mex cartels, blame border shops (vid)”

“...Following the chain of violence leaving seven dead in Acapulco disclosed that the U.S. State Department, headed by Hillary Rodham Clinton, recently sold more military weapons to Mexico than it has to Iraq and Afghanistan combined and then, in another psychological operation, the Obama administration blamed law-abiding border shop owners for crimes committed with the weapons by Mexican drug cartels. Another call for stricter gun laws is also anticipated...”

http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in-national/another-clinton-psyop-sell-weapons-to-mex-drug-cartels-blame-border-shops


36 posted on 10/11/2011 9:07:03 AM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

Ping&Bump


37 posted on 10/11/2011 9:08:57 AM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: 444Flyer

Excellent links. ( I am stealing them)

:)


38 posted on 10/11/2011 9:27:32 AM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Thay yerz!:)


39 posted on 10/11/2011 10:00:21 AM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: Watchdog85

Thanks for the link!


40 posted on 10/11/2011 10:58:29 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: True Republican Patriot

It was .. as is normal for this administration an over reach. They just never figured that they would not be able to control the ATF agents and keep them from spilling the beans to Congress.

What is sad, no .. it is INFURIATING, is that the FBI was so deep into this and not one of those agents came forward with this information. They were in on this from the beginning. I mean, long before ATF ever became involved with any of this.


41 posted on 10/11/2011 12:56:00 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: penelopesire

Mike Vanderboegh, who runs “Sipsey Street,” has had his share of death threats already. He has been charged with carrying a gun in his car without the proper permits and is awaiting a final decision as to the outcome.

It has occurred to me (and probably others) that sending him to prison could effectively shut down his blog. If anything were to happen to him while he was inside we could lose his voice permanently.

I suppose I’m just being paranoid though... Things like that don’t really happen, do they?


42 posted on 10/11/2011 1:21:39 PM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: oldfart

Anything is possible with this crowd. I will put him on my prayer list. He doesn’t sound like he was born yesterday so hopefully he will take the neccessary precautions.


43 posted on 10/11/2011 1:34:07 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: Nachum; jmaroneps37

Dear Congressman Issa, I think this might be of interest to the case you are building.

10/12/11

“What did Hillary know and when did she know it?”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2791604/posts


44 posted on 10/12/2011 9:48:07 AM PDT by 444Flyer
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To: penelopesire

It will only take one demonrat high enough who either hates Hillary or Barky enough to spill the beans and one DBM type to print it.Lots of ifs there.


45 posted on 10/22/2011 7:01:23 PM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin 2012)
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