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Food shortages high prices and riots
Survival Boards ^ | 10/12/11 | Kevin

Posted on 10/13/2011 10:39:48 AM PDT by Kartographer

Remember hearing something about a drought across parts of the US this year? If you buy anything with peanuts, you’re about to see the effects of a low harvest caused by the drought. Get ready for some high food prices, they are on their way.

Normally I do not subscribe to the doom-and-gloom predictions, but I am seeing it first hand.

Drought

Farmers here in Texas are losing crops, and having to sell their cattle because grass is not growing. Texas and Louisiana agreed to allow wide loads of hay to be transported between the 2 states. Here in Jasper County Texas, I see trailers loaded down with rolls of hay going through the city on a regular basis. Importing hay from Louisiana is one of the few options cattlemen have right now.

Because of farmers selling off their cattle herds, the price of beef might be artificially low right now. If the sale of cattle starts to slow down, we might see the price of beef jump.

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1 posted on 10/13/2011 10:39:51 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers PING!


2 posted on 10/13/2011 10:40:54 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

I am getting ready. Will be self sufficient in many ways by this time next year except for energy. Looking into windmills for power.


3 posted on 10/13/2011 10:42:15 AM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: Kartographer

Please add me to your PING list. Thanks.


4 posted on 10/13/2011 10:46:03 AM PDT by Library Lady
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To: Kartographer

Seems like excessive rain has been the problem in Texas lately. Maybe it’s too little, too late.


5 posted on 10/13/2011 10:49:02 AM PDT by Larry Lucido ("#Occupy America" is a great success! I got mail today addressed to "Occupant"!)
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To: Kartographer

I’m posting the rest because I wanted to see how he was going to get to the peanut butter riots. Apparently, he doesn’t, except in an attenuated, speculative way.

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Young and old trees are turning brown and dying. Back in February of 2011 my kids and I planted some oak trees at the Bug Out Location. Due to the lack of rain fall, and not being able to make regular trips to the camp to water the trees, the leaves have turned brown and the baby trees might die.

According to USDA figures, in 2010 raw peanuts cost about $450 a ton, currently prices stand at $1,150 a ton. Here is a chart from the USDA showing a steady increase in price over the past year

Rumors are going around that peanut prices are supposed to go up somewhere in the 50% range by the end of October. Even if prices do not go up 50%, and you buy a bunch of peanut butter, you can use the use the stuff to make peanut cookies over the holidays.

We are not talking about the drought just affecting Texas. States all across the south, all the way into Oklahoma are being affected.

To make matters worse, weathermen are predicting this drought could last another 10 years. I hope the predictions are wrong, but to be on the safe side, we have to plan for the worst.

Civil Unrest

Most US citizens are already pissed off about the bank bailouts, president obama acting like a sock-puppet, I wonder how much more the public is going to take before riots start to happen? People can only be pushed “so” far before there is a breaking out. I suspect OccupyWallStreet is only the start of the protest. If food prices continue to go up faster then the rate of inflation, something will have to give.

Another thing I suspect, the younger generation will take the lead in the revolt – these are the people who have been lied to the most. Our younger generation has been told if you go to school, build up massive student debt, you will be able to find a job, pay off the debt, buy a home, get married, and raise a family.

But now the truth is coming out. Our job base has been moved offshore and most of the people leaving college have no hope on getting a job. The American dream has been packaged and shipped to china, curiosity of the federal government.

While the federal government bails out the banks, the everyday people have been left with a tax debt that can never be paid back. Sooner or later the federal government is going to have to have a major policy change. We have money to spend overseas, but we do not have money to feed the hungry, our house the homeless. There is something wrong with a nation that would rather feed children in another country, then to feed our own children.

Lets say that this drought come back next year, and the federal government has to buy grain or corn from another country, what is going to happen to our debt then? When the government is broke, how are we going to pay our bills when something comes up? I guess the federal reserve will fire up the printing presses and print off a few billion dollars to buy grain with.

“Something” sooner or later is going to give.

Food Shortages

A worse case situation that I see, is for there to be food shortages and the US federal government being unable to buy food from other countries. The US has been called the breadbasket of the world.

Very few people living in the US have seen a real food shortage – unless you have traveled to other countries. But lets say that the average person is someone who went to high school, and either went into the work force or went to college. For most of us, we are used to going to a fast food place and ordering a cheese burger.

How would most people react if the grocery store shelves were empty? Would they act like a spoiled child and start throwing a fit? Instead of throwing themselves on the floor kicking and screaming, adults would probably resort to violence.

Violence is the last resort of the weak minded. Those that have not seen the writing on the wall and prepared their families, will probably resort to violence first.

The writing is on the wall:

Unemployment is up
People are protesting in the streets
Prices of essential goods are going up – food and fuel

Post your comments in this forum thread about the price of peanuts going up.

Now for a video about storing your SHTF survival gear.


6 posted on 10/13/2011 10:51:50 AM PDT by Larry Lucido ("#Occupy America" is a great success! I got mail today addressed to "Occupant"!)
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To: Kartographer
you’re about to see the effects of a low harvest caused by the drought.

Except it wasn't caused by the drought. It was caused by Government subsidies distorting the free market.

7 posted on 10/13/2011 10:52:20 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Larry Lucido

And the payoff: The Youtube video at the end of the article. :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYDQgYjpbsc&feature=player_embedded


8 posted on 10/13/2011 10:53:53 AM PDT by Larry Lucido ("#Occupy America" is a great success! I got mail today addressed to "Occupant"!)
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To: Lurker

Just like that darned 80 year drought that kept the Russians from all retiring early in their socialist paradise. Yeah, that’s it!


9 posted on 10/13/2011 10:55:04 AM PDT by Larry Lucido ("#Occupy America" is a great success! I got mail today addressed to "Occupant"!)
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To: Kartographer
Because of farmers selling off their cattle herds, the price of beef might be artificially low right now.

Wrong. Beef prices are not low and will not get any lower. Our excess beef is being sent to China. Next year, when ranchers start to build up their herds, prices will skyrocket due to the low numbers of heifers.

Texas is seeing a drop of 80% in their shrimp catch. It could be due to the hot weather or the oil spill or disease or who knows what.

Worried about the price of peanuts? Grow your own. They're the easiest food source to grow. At one time we had a peanut farm but here's a cute little story for the rest of you. When Jr. was little, his pre-school teacher had the kids plant raw peanuts in styrofoam cups. When the plants were ready to be transplanted, Jr. brought his home to put into the backyard garden. There were 4 little plants in the cup and he was so proud of them. They all grew and at the end of the season we had a freezer full of peanuts for snacking, baking, and for grinding into peanut butter. A few years later, that group of kids were in 4-H so we did a cooking segment with every dish from appetizer to dessert containing peanuts.

10 posted on 10/13/2011 10:56:49 AM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: Larry Lucido

Thanks!

I should have pointed out the link.

Makes me feel very much the novice!


11 posted on 10/13/2011 10:57:51 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Larry Lucido

No excessive rain in my area.


12 posted on 10/13/2011 10:58:12 AM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: bgill
"A few years later, that group of kids were in 4-H so we did a cooking segment with every dish from appetizer to dessert containing peanuts.

OMG! HOW MANY KIDS DID YOU KILL?
13 posted on 10/13/2011 10:59:52 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: bgill

It rained out the Rangers-Tigers games a couple times. I’m blaming Detroit’s crappy hitting on that.


14 posted on 10/13/2011 11:04:58 AM PDT by Larry Lucido ("#Occupy America" is a great success! I got mail today addressed to "Occupant"!)
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To: Lurker

Oh, BS!


15 posted on 10/13/2011 11:06:09 AM PDT by tiki
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To: Larry Lucido

It is too late. Texas has had the first rains in months this last week but it’s waaaay past too late. The trees are already dead so are nothing but tinder for the next wildfire. The grass has long since died. It’s too late to plant crops. Livestock tanks still aren’t full even if the ranchers had feed. The lakes and rivers so low that that fishing and tourism stink. Even if you can find an operating boat ramp, there’s too many hazards near the surface. Many businesses that rely on the rivers for their customers are closing. We are still under fire bans and water restrictions. Outside watering is either banned or limited with $1500 fines and people have been asked to cut back on household water useage. The aquifer our well is on is running slow and low. The water authority and old times are predicting 3-12 years or longer of this.


16 posted on 10/13/2011 11:10:27 AM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: Kartographer

LOL! Everyone helped with the cooking and all left stuffed. Not one parent called their lawyer and not one kid died. Amazing, huh.


17 posted on 10/13/2011 11:14:59 AM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: bgill
"Texas is seeing a drop of 80% in their shrimp catch."

Same reports here along the Alabama and Mississippi coasts. Down 80%!

18 posted on 10/13/2011 11:20:43 AM PDT by blam
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To: Lurker

No, no according to Obama this is all the result of ATM machines.


19 posted on 10/13/2011 11:22:34 AM PDT by Obadiah (Okay, so what's the speed of dark?)
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To: bgill

A freezer full from 4 plants? That’s a nice yield! I might have to look into that to see if they’ll grow up here.


20 posted on 10/13/2011 11:25:38 AM PDT by Ellendra (God feeds the birds of the air, but he doesn't throw it in their nests.)
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To: Kartographer

Odd. NYS had one of the best apple crops on record this year. Big and sweet apples with a bumper crop, even though a few farmers lost some apples to a freak hail storm earlier this summer.


21 posted on 10/13/2011 11:42:23 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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To: metmom

The east coast had an amazing amount of rain. Texas and Arizona are blowing away and drying up fast.


22 posted on 10/13/2011 11:50:37 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Kartographer

Can’t do a whole lot, but we’re doing what we can to be prepared. Our small garden yielded enough variety that we have canned, frozen and dried food. Hopefully, the power doesn’t go down, as my freezer is full. I just froze chicken soup and butternut squash soup. If we can’t eat it in one sitting, the rest gets frozen. My husband learned how to make sauerkraut, and canned that, and then he took the last of the green tomatoes and made sweet pickles. We normally would have let the little ones die on the vine. We have apples in the dehydrator right now. We don’t have enough food for a year, but we are at least stocked for a couple of months. We need to focus on First Aid and heat.

And coffee.

LOTS of coffee!


23 posted on 10/13/2011 11:57:51 AM PDT by sneakers (EAT YOUR PEAS!)
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To: Larry Lucido
I wanted to see how he was going to get to the peanut butter riots.

Large containers of Peter Pan at Sam's Club still at the old price as of yesterday.
They're 6 pound containers and I think the price was $7.98.

In the local stores near me the small 16.3 oz. jars of name brand are $2.59 and up.
The generics are just slightly less.

We have used the large containers after more than 3 years on the shelf (sealed of course) and the peanut butter was still good.
I think we will stretch that record this time around.


24 posted on 10/13/2011 1:32:53 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama's secret: "Once you learn to fake sincerity you've got it made")
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To: blam

That’s bad. If something is happening to the shrimp, what other fish are being affected?


25 posted on 10/14/2011 7:34:26 AM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: sneakers
We need to focus on First Aid

Check out the YouTube videos by Patriot Nurse. I think you may find them helpful.

26 posted on 10/14/2011 1:32:23 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

Thanks Lurker, I’ll do that!


27 posted on 10/14/2011 3:04:13 PM PDT by sneakers (EAT YOUR PEAS!)
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To: Kartographer

Please add me to your preppers ping list.

Thank you.


28 posted on 10/18/2011 5:04:28 PM PDT by Immerito (Reading Through the Bible in 90 Days)
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To: Larry Lucido

Definitely, especially for crops.


29 posted on 10/18/2011 5:25:52 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Lurker

Oh BS!!!!!!!!!!!


30 posted on 10/18/2011 5:29:35 PM PDT by tiki
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To: Lurker

Thanks! First Aid is something many overlook.


31 posted on 10/18/2011 9:57:55 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: Kartographer

Our local grocery store is running a special on peanut butter this week to clear the shelves for the higher priced product. You would think they would just raise the price on what’s already there. The price is not on the jar anyway.


32 posted on 10/19/2011 10:11:55 AM PDT by Library Lady
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To: metmom
Odd. NYS had one of the best apple crops on record this year. Big and sweet apples with a bumper crop, even though a few farmers lost some apples to a freak hail storm earlier this summer.

One thing I've been noticing in recent years is that east coast storm patterns currently move from south to north. Go to weather.com, click on the weather map, and hit play, then zoom out so you see the whole east coast. All that rain we've been seeing appears to be from water vapor from the Gulf and Atlantic making its way north. Texas has Mexico to its south.

I seem to remember a time when storms tracked mainly west to east rather than south to north (actually more like southwest to northeast)

33 posted on 10/19/2011 10:25:29 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Well, they still do. In the northeast, we get both, but there does seem to be a significant uptick in the east coast storms.


34 posted on 10/19/2011 11:59:57 AM PDT by metmom (For freedom Christ has set us free; stand firm therefore & do not submit again to a yoke of slavery)
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