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Soldiers who use medical marijuana for PTSD lose 2nd amendment rights (MY TITLE)
the inquisitr ^ | September 29, 2011 | Dan Evon

Posted on 10/15/2011 11:44:22 PM PDT by OL Hickory

If you legally purchase, ingest, and enjoy marijuana, you are no longer allowed to purchase firearms. A recent ATF memo states that firearm dealers in states where medical marijuana is legal can no longer sell firearms or ammunition to registered users.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Education; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; loseguns; pot; users; wod; wodlist; wosd
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1 posted on 10/15/2011 11:44:28 PM PDT by OL Hickory
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To: OL Hickory

Just take another toke, man, and it’ll all go away...


2 posted on 10/16/2011 12:20:14 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: kingu

..only reason it was illegally made illegally was so it wouldn’t compete with Hearst forest products (paper).


3 posted on 10/16/2011 12:40:25 AM PDT by de.rm ('Most people never believe anything you tell them unless it isn't true."-Groucho Marx)
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To: de.rm

And those 80 mile per gallon carburetors are being held off the market by greedy oil companies. Had nothing to do with the prohibition nannystaters.


4 posted on 10/16/2011 12:53:25 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: OL Hickory

they need to learn to drink booze like the rest of us, then they can still keep their guns.


5 posted on 10/16/2011 1:15:40 AM PDT by RC one (Voting isn't a simple act of civic duty anymore, it's a complex act of civil war.)
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To: OL Hickory

So... is the next step to legalize marijuana, or prohibit alcohol?


6 posted on 10/16/2011 1:22:26 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas
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To: kingu
..it's just a fact, jack, ain't no 80 gallon about it, I don't care one way or the other 'cept for the facts.

I am sick & tried of mutha' thumpers ramblin' on about what they don't really know anything of other than propaganda some other sophisticated mutha' told them which wasn't true in the first place.

Look it up, the actual truth is rather interesting, much more interesting than the lie.

7 posted on 10/16/2011 1:40:14 AM PDT by de.rm ('Most people never believe anything you tell them unless it isn't true."-Groucho Marx)
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To: OL Hickory

Marijuana harms the brain and shouldn’t be given to anyone . That disturbed persons should possess guns is probably an argument you can’t win, either.


8 posted on 10/16/2011 1:59:42 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: Havisham

Oooooooo...the FReeper cannabis libertarians will be after you for that!

“Marijuana harms the brain”. That’s soooooooooo judgmental and untrue! I know vets who smoked dope in Vietnam and they haven’t changed a bit, they still say “hey man” and “check it out” and “there it is” and “groovy”. It’s totally harmless and fan-f***ing-tastic, man!


9 posted on 10/16/2011 5:22:54 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("Deport all Muslims. Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind.")
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To: OL Hickory

Now we know how the US Govmint is increasing the migrations to places like Somaliland where the Islamic leaders freely allow all them drugs on the other side of the gate to them skinney guys with big guns driving them sooped up Chevy Luvs. How many troop in our armed forces taking both legally prescribed mind altering /mood altering drugs have been outside the wire? Not just in the sandbox. Funny thing is we the People once made sure our elected and appointed officials recognized that Governments are instituted among men to secure those rights given by God. Only when the world is stood on its head can it said that Government can give or take away any rights.


10 posted on 10/16/2011 5:27:20 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: OL Hickory

Just wait until the ATF moves Ritalin and dozens of other childhood mind meds to the banned list.


11 posted on 10/16/2011 5:52:08 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: OL Hickory

I can’t believe the dolts on this thread who don’t see the big picture of generalized gun prohibition here.

Like I just said, wait until it’s Ritallin, Seroquel, Prozac, Wellbutrin etc. The ATF will clear tens of millions of citizens from the rolls of legal gun ownership, and create tens of millions of gun felons to pursue and incarcerate.


12 posted on 10/16/2011 5:55:24 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: RC one
they need to learn to drink booze like the rest of us, then they can still keep their guns.

... until the day the BATFE adds alcohol users to the list. In which case, you'd be in no position to object anyway, because you supported their actions when it was pot that got added.

13 posted on 10/16/2011 6:10:52 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Travis McGee

What exactly does “no one shall be deprived of liberty without due process of law” mean to these thugs?


14 posted on 10/16/2011 6:12:23 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Travis McGee

“.. the big picture of generalized gun prohibition”.

I do. I see that the government is starting with pot. Then it will go to anxiety medication even in small doses. Then it will go to having anyone under 18 living in their home (they will use some sort of data to say children and teens die most often if they can access a firearm). The frog, IMHO, is put into the pot and the heat has just been turned up. The government can’t remove the Second Amendment; however, it can put so many restrictions/limitations on that amendment that it simply dies. IMHO.


15 posted on 10/16/2011 6:47:15 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: momtothree

Whew. I thought I was the only one who saw it.


16 posted on 10/16/2011 7:08:00 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: coloradan

Not a damn thing.


17 posted on 10/16/2011 7:10:07 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I have thought about how the government will restrict gun ownership for quite a while, Travis. We all know (or I think we do) that the government really doesn’t like the fact that regular citizens can own/keep guns. They can’t just come out and say NO MORE GUNS. So, they have to start restrictions. One by one. First, it is the medical marijuana. They know, IMHO, that many people will think, “Well, I don’t do drugs so I’m okay with it”. Then comes more medicines. People will think, “I’m not on anxiety medication so I’m okay with that”. It is how many of our freedoms have already been taken... step by step and with agreement with the majority of the population. What could be next? Five mile radius from a hospital or school? Then ten mile? Living in a city, suburb? No one over 65? It is all for the taking once the frog has been put into the pot. IMHO.


18 posted on 10/16/2011 7:20:29 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: OL Hickory

Shall not be infringed!


19 posted on 10/16/2011 7:35:58 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: kingu; de.rm
He's right. There was no major citizens’ prohibition movement against hemp when it was illegally and underhandedly outlawed. There were almost no government statements about it before prohibition. In fact, the law did not even prohibit it. It simply called for a small tax. However, the internal revenue policy was such that the tax was impossible to pay. Effectively making hemp illegal without saying it on paper.

Just follow the money:

In 1935 a hemp decorticator (like a hemp gin) was invented that allowed mechanized processing of the fibers instead of brutal manual labor. Before this, hemp was only used for applications where high strength, stable fiber was a necessity like in warships and archive paper. Once mechanized, a superior/cheaper hemp fiber would have stolen a huge chunk of the cotton and paper-wood market.

You see, another important fact is the decorticator has no influence on the availability of “pipe hemp”. The timing just makes you go hmmm:

Suddenly in 1936, while hemp fiber production is skyrocketing, anti-hemp propaganda from the government and large filmmakers is produced. They couldn't even call it by its scientific name because outlawing a major industrial plant such as hemp would have been ludicrous. Instead, they adopted the obscure mexican street name “marihuana”. In fact, only one year earlier, the US government produced promotional films that encouraged farmers to grow large-scale industrial hemp. With the new mechanization, The US would have been a leader in cheap hemp-fiber production.

Then in 1937, a Stamp Tax is proposed and a Senate debate is held. The debate was kept as low-profile as possible and presented as a debate to minimally tax “marihuana”, a word most people heard for the first time. If you read the Senate debate today, the testimony from the experts was mostly lies. One such example is a researcher testifying that he injected dozens of dogs and most died. This is impossible since plant cannabinoids cannot be processed into intravenous form. Also, there is no known lethal dose.

The whole thing was pay-for-play at the American people's expense. Business as usual...

20 posted on 10/16/2011 9:26:04 AM PDT by varyouga
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